K-DOT wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:robillionaire wrote:
I was thinking in the other thread we were saying the max they could offer was 106 so I was wondering where the 117 was coming from. Maybe they found some loophole way to add incentives or something
Not sure how they work exactly but there are bonuses for allstar, playoff and all nba defense that could take it up to $117
According to Spotrac, incentives count against the cap regardless of if he hits them or not
So we could pay him as little as 23.8 million next year, but he still counts for 26.1 against the cap. It doesn't matter, but it also says his incentives are, if he plays 65 games and we make the playoffs he gets half, then if he makes the All Star team or All Defense team, he gets half. Not entirely sure how accurate they are though, and like I said, it doesn't affect our cap if he hits them or not
He also has a player option in the last year, too.
In a clear wake up call that I need to go outside and touch grass, I looked at the CBA and found this info, apparently there are "Likely" and "Unlikely" Performance Bonuses and only the "Likely" ones count against the cap, I dunno which of his are, or if this matters, or what, but I'm going to log off and go outside
"Likely vs. Unlikely Bonuses — A performance bonus is a Likely Bonus when the bonus would be earned if the player’s (or team’s performance) was identical to the prior year. For a rookie, a veteran who did not play in the prior year, or a player who has joined an expansion team and could earn a performance bonus based on his team’s performance, that bonus is a Likely Bonus when it is, well, “likely” to be earned. All other performance bonuses are Unlikely Bonuses. The CBA includes a detailed dispute resolution if the NBA or the players’ association cannot agree on whether a bonus is likely to be earned.
A team must have room for every performance bonus — whether a Likely Bonus or an Unlikely Bonus — that a player may earn in the first year of his contract in order for a contract to be approved. But no contract may include Unlikely Bonuses in any season that exceeds 15% of the player’s Base Compensation.
Once approved, only Likely Bonuses are actually included in the team’s team salary for salary cap purposes.Once a player achieves an Unlikely Bonus, by definition that bonus is treated as a Likely Bonus for the next salary cap year."
Edit:
this was from his contract in 2019:
"Julius Randle‘s contract with the Knicks includes three separate $900K unlikely bonuses that he could earn if he makes the All-Star team, is named to an All-Defensive team, or makes the playoffs (and appears in at least 65 games)."
Now, the all-star and playoff bonuses are considered "Likely" bonuses and the All-Defense one is unlikely, although we have to have room for all of them for the contract to be approved
but I'm guessing if he doesn't become an all-star again or make the playoffs they would switch back to "unlikely" and at that point wouldn't count against the cap in the future.
Someone do the legwork, I did my part
RIP mags
