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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#981 » by Half-Full » Fri Aug 6, 2021 3:44 pm

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Nice! Seems like a great guy. We have 2 young PGs with really good potential who both seem like good character guys as well. Excited to see the progression of both of them.

Kind of hoping we don't sign Schroder so Pritchard and Madar get more of a chance..


Both are barely NBA players.


Well, obviously, we can't say for sure about Madar, but I'm willing to bet he is more than "barely" an NBA player. We'll see soon enough. As for Payton? As a rookie he averaged 19 minutes of playing time, and shot 41% from the three point line. He never embarrassed himself, and had many memorable moments (see highlight video). He is certainly an NBA player, and I think you are in the decided minority if you think otherwise.

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Post#982 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Aug 6, 2021 4:53 pm

This is the 1st seed team in the East in 2016-17 (w/ yrs of experience):
R - Brown
1 - Rozier
2 - Smart
3 - Olynyk
4 - Crowder
5 - IT
6 - Jerebko
6 - Bradley
9 - Horford
11 - Amir

If Cs replace Grant Williams w/ Parker or some other vet, this season's team would actually be more experienced than team above:
1 - Pritchard
1 - Nesmith
2 - Langford
3 - Timelord
4 - Tatum
5 - Brown
7 - Smart
7 - Parker
10 - Kanter
14 - Horford

Which team is better? Just need JT to become a top 5 MVP candidate and for the team to have awesome chemistry.

(This has been yours truly's lame attempt at saying we'll be fine. Fine is not Finals though. :P)
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Post#983 » by cloverleaf » Fri Aug 6, 2021 7:33 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:This is the 1st seed team in the East in 2016-17 (w/ yrs of experience):
R - Brown
1 - Rozier
2 - Smart
3 - Olynyk
4 - Crowder
5 - IT
6 - Jerebko
6 - Bradley
9 - Horford
11 - Amir

If Cs replace Grant Williams w/ Parker or some other vet, this season's team would actually be more experienced than team above:
1 - Pritchard
1 - Nesmith
2 - Langford
3 - Timelord
4 - Tatum
5 - Brown
7 - Smart
7 - Parker
10 - Kanter
14 - Horford

Which team is better? Just need JT to become a top 5 MVP candidate and for the team to have awesome chemistry.

(This has been yours truly's lame attempt at saying we'll be fine. Fine is not Finals though. :P)


When you've got 3 more years experience than Celtics Amir had, is that possibly a good thing?

But that first team had scrappier starters/leaders in a much worse conference, unfortunately.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#984 » by BostonCouchGM » Fri Aug 6, 2021 7:39 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:This is the 1st seed team in the East in 2016-17 (w/ yrs of experience):
R - Brown
1 - Rozier
2 - Smart
3 - Olynyk
4 - Crowder
5 - IT
6 - Jerebko
6 - Bradley
9 - Horford
11 - Amir

If Cs replace Grant Williams w/ Parker or some other vet, this season's team would actually be more experienced than team above:
1 - Pritchard
1 - Nesmith
2 - Langford
3 - Timelord
4 - Tatum
5 - Brown
7 - Smart
7 - Parker
10 - Kanter
14 - Horford

Which team is better? Just need JT to become a top 5 MVP candidate and for the team to have awesome chemistry.

(This has been yours truly's lame attempt at saying we'll be fine. Fine is not Finals though. :P)


the difference is there's been a monumental infusion of talent into the Eastern Conference since then. The whole ATL, NY, CHA, CHI and IND teams are completely new and well constructed. All the bottom feeders have had multiple years of lottery picks drafted and each have made some astute vet pickups. Giannis and Embiid have become top 5-8 players and have good supporting casts. The Nets have one of the best Big Threes in NBA history. It's a completely different situation. We're near dead last as far as talent goes, not just the East but also the West. It's going to be a long season especially if we don't even get to enjoy watching the young guys develop because their minutes are going to vets.
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Post#985 » by GulagNate » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:24 pm

The Boston Celtics are believed to be offering Marcus Smart the largest extension available to them worth approximately $77 million over four years, according to Mark Murphy of the Boston Herald.

The Celtics are awaiting a decision from Smart and his agent.
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Post#986 » by darrendaye » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:33 pm

GulagNate wrote:The Boston Celtics are believed to be offering Marcus Smart the largest extension available to them worth approximately $77 million over four years, according to Mark Murphy of the Boston Herald.

The Celtics are awaiting a decision from Smart and his agent.


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Post#987 » by Ill News » Sat Aug 7, 2021 12:21 am

Why are we interested in Schroeder? Has Brad not learned that a score-first guard isn't the best fit for the Jays? And if they sign-and-trade Smart to the freaking Lakers, I'll go ballistic (not likely to happen, but you never know).
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Post#988 » by Hal14 » Sat Aug 7, 2021 2:42 am

Ill News wrote:Why are we interested in Schroeder? Has Brad not learned that a score-first guard isn't the best fit for the Jays? And if they sign-and-trade Smart to the freaking Lakers, I'll go ballistic (not likely to happen, but you never know).

Schroder has actually had 4 seasons with an assist rate over 34%. last season he had an assist rate of 27% compared to a usage rate of 23%, which is much better than Kemba who had an assist rate of only like 21% with a usage rate of over 25%

Looking at Schroder's numbers over the past 5 or 6 yrs, he actually seems to have a pretty good balance of scoring/passing.

I actually feel like a Schroder/Smart backcourt (Schroder at the 1, Smart at the 2, both of them at 6'3") could be pretty good, pretty feisty..
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Post#989 » by ParticleMan » Sat Aug 7, 2021 6:55 am

Schroder is a good player, I just wonder why this guy seems to wear out his welcome very quickly wherever he goes. Word is he is a bit of a nutcase. This could be ok, but after last year's fractured environment I am hesitant. If it's a one-year deal then fine, but he's not that good a player that we should sacrifice a bunch of capspace long-term. It's not like he makes us a true competitor.

Also, I kind of like the idea of handing the keys fully to the Jays. Let's trust them for a change, instead of always thinking oh we need another guy.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#990 » by La Flame » Sat Aug 7, 2021 7:37 am

ParticleMan wrote:Schroder is a good player, I just wonder why this guy seems to wear out his welcome very quickly wherever he goes. Word is he is a bit of a nutcase. This could be ok, but after last year's fractured environment I am hesitant. If it's a one-year deal then fine, but he's not that good a player that we should sacrifice a bunch of capspace long-term. It's not like he makes us a true competitor.

Also, I kind of like the idea of handing the keys fully to the Jays. Let's trust them for a change, instead of always thinking oh we need another guy.


No, we need all the talent we can get and if it's for 1 year the better. With all the injuries, especially in the playoffs, I'm taking all the good players I can get thank you.
I really liked the Kanter signing too, pretty much the best center you could get for the minimum and he rebounds the hell out of the ball
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#991 » by Parliament10 » Sat Aug 7, 2021 3:44 pm

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ParticleMan wrote:Schroder is a good player, I just wonder why this guy seems to wear out his welcome very quickly wherever he goes. Word is he is a bit of a nutcase. This could be ok, but after last year's fractured environment I am hesitant. If it's a one-year deal then fine, but he's not that good a player that we should sacrifice a bunch of capspace long-term. It's not like he makes us a true competitor.

Also, I kind of like the idea of handing the keys fully to the Jays. Let's trust them for a change, instead of always thinking oh we need another guy.


No, we need all the talent we can get and if it's for 1 year the better. With all the injuries, especially in the playoffs, I'm taking all the good players I can get thank you.
I really liked the Kanter signing too, pretty much the best center you could get for the minimum and he rebounds the hell out of the ball

I'm ambivalent on getting schröder. He's a decent player, but he seems to have the wrong attitude.

I Agree, that we should build around the two Jays. Give them some mid-level guys to help out.
Everytime we've gotten a "Star" player, it hasn't worked out. And meanwhile Jayson & Jaylen have blossomed.
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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#992 » by Edug27 » Sat Aug 7, 2021 4:12 pm

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ParticleMan wrote:Schroder is a good player, I just wonder why this guy seems to wear out his welcome very quickly wherever he goes. Word is he is a bit of a nutcase. This could be ok, but after last year's fractured environment I am hesitant. If it's a one-year deal then fine, but he's not that good a player that we should sacrifice a bunch of capspace long-term. It's not like he makes us a true competitor.

Also, I kind of like the idea of handing the keys fully to the Jays. Let's trust them for a change, instead of always thinking oh we need another guy.


No, we need all the talent we can get and if it's for 1 year the better. With all the injuries, especially in the playoffs, I'm taking all the good players I can get thank you.
I really liked the Kanter signing too, pretty much the best center you could get for the minimum and he rebounds the hell out of the ball

I'm ambivalent on getting schröder. He's a decent player, but he seems to have the wrong attitude.

I Agree, that we should build around the two Jays. Give them some mid-level guys to help out.
Everytime we've gotten a "Star" player, it hasn't worked out. And meanwhile Jayson & Jaylen have blossomed.


100%.

This “we need a 3rd star” theory is getting tired. Danny was stuck in 2008, thinking he could put 3 all stars on the court and surround them with dudes like Grant Williams and Jeff Teague, and we’d be fine.

We have 2 really good young players. Put quality depth around them. Put versatile players on the court with them. Actually build a team. Even the Bucks had dudes around Giannis and Middleton that were putting in work, making huge shots in key moments.
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Post#993 » by lon3lytoaster » Sat Aug 7, 2021 4:19 pm

ParticleMan wrote:Schroder is a good player, I just wonder why this guy seems to wear out his welcome very quickly wherever he goes. Word is he is a bit of a nutcase. This could be ok, but after last year's fractured environment I am hesitant. If it's a one-year deal then fine, but he's not that good a player that we should sacrifice a bunch of capspace long-term. It's not like he makes us a true competitor.

Also, I kind of like the idea of handing the keys fully to the Jays. Let's trust them for a change, instead of always thinking oh we need another guy.


Shroder is genuinely like Rondo’s bizarro, score first German doppelgänger. Same sort of ego, same sort of stubbornness but isn’t as savvy as rondo was on the court and doesn’t impact the game like Rondo in years 2-5.
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Post#994 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Aug 7, 2021 5:55 pm

Schroder will be playing for his next contract and if he is a jerk in Boston the word will get out and it will cost him lots of money (again).
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Post#997 » by Theocy » Sat Aug 7, 2021 8:11 pm

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Nice! Seems like a great guy. We have 2 young PGs with really good potential who both seem like good character guys as well. Excited to see the progression of both of them.

Kind of hoping we don't sign Schroder so Pritchard and Madar get more of a chance..


Both are barely NBA players.


Are you high ? :lol:

PP had an amazing rookie season.
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Post#998 » by greenpierce » Sat Aug 7, 2021 8:18 pm

Personally I say get Schröder if you can. An asset is an asset, and we’ve gotten very few new ones this off-season. If LA’s grumpy loss is our gain, all the better.
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Post#999 » by jmr07019 » Sat Aug 7, 2021 8:26 pm

This guy has almost zero interaction on this tweet so take it with a grain of salt but he did have the Celts signing Ime on June 22 when most other sources were reporting on the 28th.

Edit: further googling shows other reports of ime being hired on the 23rd. I haven’t found any other sources reporting on the 22nd tho

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Post#1000 » by keevsnick1 » Sat Aug 7, 2021 8:28 pm

BOS/SAC/ATL trade still not official? They're either trying to rope another team into it in order to take back more money using TT to salary match (could take up to about 12.2 million back).

Or maybe trying to reroute Dunn somewhere so they can sign Schroder to the MLE?

Not sure why else it would still be out there.

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