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Post#641 » by IceManBK1 » Sun Aug 8, 2021 5:44 pm

Mattya wrote:I like Lauri. Not paying him that or giving up a first round pick for the privilege to sign him.


Pssh.. We have to include a 1st to get rid of trash like hauncho and culver.. We couldn't even get a 2nd for them. Alot of teams overpaid to get the players they want. 15 mil is fair for a good player like Lauri. Beasley earns the same. He doesn't play D neither.
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Post#642 » by IceManBK1 » Sun Aug 8, 2021 5:48 pm

We should just offer Biyombo 2 yr 10 mil deal. Athletic defensive big that can reb is what we really need.
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Post#643 » by Mattya » Sun Aug 8, 2021 5:50 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:
Mattya wrote:I like Lauri. Not paying him that or giving up a first round pick for the privilege to sign him.


Pssh.. We have to include a 1st to get rid of trash like hauncho and culver.. We couldn't even get a 2nd for them. Alot of teams overpaid to get the players they want. 15 mil is fair for a good player like Lauri. Beasley earns the same. He doesn't play D neither.


You do that. I’ll keep the flexibility.
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Post#644 » by jscott » Sun Aug 8, 2021 6:09 pm

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Mattya wrote:I like Lauri. Not paying him that or giving up a first round pick for the privilege to sign him.


Pssh.. We have to include a 1st to get rid of trash like hauncho and culver.. We couldn't even get a 2nd for them. Alot of teams overpaid to get the players they want. 15 mil is fair for a good player like Lauri. Beasley earns the same. He doesn't play D neither.

No thanks. Been burned plenty of times in the past by dealing firsts. Not gonna do it again unless it’s for a real difference maker which Lauri isn’t.

If the Bulls want to try some out depth on for size I’m for talking trades there. They could probably use wing depth the most.
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Post#645 » by moonpie » Sun Aug 8, 2021 6:12 pm

FWIW, Markkanen has removed all Bulls-related affiliations from his social media as of today
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Post#646 » by moss_is_1 » Sun Aug 8, 2021 6:35 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:
Mattya wrote:I like Lauri. Not paying him that or giving up a first round pick for the privilege to sign him.


Pssh.. We have to include a 1st to get rid of trash like hauncho and culver.. We couldn't even get a 2nd for them. Alot of teams overpaid to get the players they want. 15 mil is fair for a good player like Lauri. Beasley earns the same. He doesn't play D neither.

They're expiring contracts at the end of the day. We aren't trading a 1st and overpaying Lauri.
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Post#647 » by moonpie » Sun Aug 8, 2021 6:39 pm

Juancho + Layman + Culver + a second rounder
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Post#648 » by KGdaBom » Sun Aug 8, 2021 6:48 pm

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We had no chance. These guys go to the best teams. There’s no “should” about it.

Maybe, but if we had recognized right away we may have been able to sign him before other teams jumped into the mix.


Nope. They want to go to good teams in cities with great weather. They don’t want to go to bad teams in cold climates.

You're just being a troll now. They want to play NBA basketball. As I stated if we gave him that opportunity before anybody else did he might have taken it. Players do sign with Minnesota sometimes. Or maybe you missed that.
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Post#649 » by moonpie » Sun Aug 8, 2021 7:13 pm

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Post#650 » by Dewey » Sun Aug 8, 2021 7:32 pm

We can go ahead and complain about Markkanens average defense, but we have some that are worse and Lavine in CHI is nothing to write home about defensively. A skilled 7’ that can hit some 3’s I’m pretty much in, but CHI has to allow us to dump some salary for us to consider giving a pick.

So here’s a question… if we open up a slot with a 2 for 1 trade, can we fill that roster spot and make it pay? That’s ultimately the window of opportunity here, then hope Markkanen plays to prove.
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Post#651 » by shrink » Sun Aug 8, 2021 7:33 pm

I feel like many are so desperate to raise our floor in the next week, that they don’t care about collapsing the ceiling - longterm. Other teams are getting stuff now, so they want something too - even in our worst way to get it, free agency.

I do not believe Lauri Markannen is now, or has ever been, even an average NBA defender. And even if he was, the player we put next to Towns needs to be, at a minimum, better than “average.”

The issue is more than the money with Markannen. It is paying that money for three or four years.

I think most people know what we need in a big man next to Towns. We need someone to compliment him, to build the team correctly so we can truly grow. We don’t need a guy who is a pale reflection of him, offensively and defensively. He helps us where we don’t need help, and hurts us where we do.

Edit: Ditto for Gallo.
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Post#652 » by SCTwins » Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:15 pm

shrink wrote:I feel like many are so desperate to raise our floor in the next week, that they don’t care about collapsing the ceiling - longterm. Other teams are getting stuff now, so they want something too - even in our worst way to get it, free agency.

I do not believe Lauri Markannen is now, or has ever been, even an average NBA defender. And even if he was, the player we put next to Towns needs to be, at a minimum, better than “average.”

The issue is more than the money with Markannen. It is paying that money for three or four years.

I think most people know what we need in a big man next to Towns. We need someone to compliment him, to build the team correctly so we can truly grow. We don’t need a guy who is a pale reflection of him, offensively and defensively. He helps us where we don’t need help, and hurts us where we do.

Edit: Ditto for Gallo.


100% agree.

Markannen and Gallo do nothing for me. They are better versions of Juancho offensively, but do nothing to help our defense. Not worth giving up any assets for.

And trading Beasley now (who would almost certainly be in the deals) would be stupid. His trade value is at it's lowest.
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Post#653 » by jscott » Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:41 pm

shrink wrote:I feel like many are so desperate to raise our floor in the next week, that they don’t care about collapsing the ceiling - longterm. Other teams are getting stuff now, so they want something too - even in our worst way to get it, free agency.

I do not believe Lauri Markannen is now, or has ever been, even an average NBA defender. And even if he was, the player we put next to Towns needs to be, at a minimum, better than “average.”

The issue is more than the money with Markannen. It is paying that money for three or four years.

I think most people know what we need in a big man next to Towns. We need someone to compliment him, to build the team correctly so we can truly grow. We don’t need a guy who is a pale reflection of him, offensively and defensively. He helps us where we don’t need help, and hurts us where we do.

Edit: Ditto for Gallo.

I’d give either a short term run if it meant giving up minimal assets but tbh I’d probably be more excited to see a guy like Millsap sign with us. We could use his experience imo.
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Post#654 » by KGdaBom » Sun Aug 8, 2021 9:05 pm

SCTwins wrote:
shrink wrote:I feel like many are so desperate to raise our floor in the next week, that they don’t care about collapsing the ceiling - longterm. Other teams are getting stuff now, so they want something too - even in our worst way to get it, free agency.

I do not believe Lauri Markannen is now, or has ever been, even an average NBA defender. And even if he was, the player we put next to Towns needs to be, at a minimum, better than “average.”

The issue is more than the money with Markannen. It is paying that money for three or four years.

I think most people know what we need in a big man next to Towns. We need someone to compliment him, to build the team correctly so we can truly grow. We don’t need a guy who is a pale reflection of him, offensively and defensively. He helps us where we don’t need help, and hurts us where we do.

Edit: Ditto for Gallo.


100% agree.

Markannen and Gallo do nothing for me. They are better versions of Juancho offensively, but do nothing to help our defense. Not worth giving up any assets for.

And trading Beasley now (who would almost certainly be in the deals) would be stupid. His trade value is at it's lowest.

Why would his trade value be at it's lowest? I would have thought that was when charges were first brought against him. Now it's all pretty much resolved.
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Post#655 » by Baseline81 » Sun Aug 8, 2021 9:19 pm

shrink wrote:I feel like many are so desperate to raise our floor in the next week, that they don’t care about collapsing the ceiling - longterm. Other teams are getting stuff now, so they want something too - even in our worst way to get it, free agency.

I do not believe Lauri Markannen is now, or has ever been, even an average NBA defender. And even if he was, the player we put next to Towns needs to be, at a minimum, better than “average.”

The issue is more than the money with Markannen. It is paying that money for three or four years.

I think most people know what we need in a big man next to Towns. We need someone to compliment him, to build the team correctly so we can truly grow. We don’t need a guy who is a pale reflection of him, offensively and defensively. He helps us where we don’t need help, and hurts us where we do.

Edit: Ditto for Gallo.

Care to throw a few names you would target at the trade deadline or even next off-season should the Wolves sit on their hands again?

Or are you thinking the answer is through the draft?
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Post#656 » by Tjstangeland » Sun Aug 8, 2021 9:47 pm

Sorry I posted this in the trade thread since he's restricted, this is a way for Rosas to get back we lost. Lauri is going to be traded and we have to give someting to match a S&T. They want something in return, I say Juancho and Culver plus a protected 1st round pick. Our first should be in the 20's and he would be more valuable to us than our pick. I think the Bulls would do this and give us our 4 plus keeping Beasley and Prince, we would have solid depth. We would sign Jmac to be our 2nd PG plus with Nowell. We would lose Vando but would be worth it.
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Post#657 » by SO_MONEY » Sun Aug 8, 2021 9:54 pm

Tjstangeland wrote:Sorry I posted this in the trade thread since he's restricted, this is a way for Rosas to get back we lost. Lauri is going to be traded and we have to give someting to match a S&T. They want something in return, I say Juancho and Culver plus a protected 1st round pick. Our first should be in the 20's and he would be more valuable to us than our pick. I think the Bulls would do this and give us our 4 plus keeping Beasley and Prince, we would have solid depth. We would sign Jmac to be our 2nd PG plus with Nowell. We would lose Vando but would be worth it.


If you have given up a 1st for the "privilege" to pay Lauri, you have lost. So, no I wouldn't do that and I don't think leadership would either. You have gotten your response, need I post it directly to your other post no one replied too?
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Post#658 » by KGdaBom » Sun Aug 8, 2021 9:56 pm

SO_MONEY wrote:
Tjstangeland wrote:Sorry I posted this in the trade thread since he's restricted, this is a way for Rosas to get back we lost. Lauri is going to be traded and we have to give someting to match a S&T. They want something in return, I say Juancho and Culver plus a protected 1st round pick. Our first should be in the 20's and he would be more valuable to us than our pick. I think the Bulls would do this and give us our 4 plus keeping Beasley and Prince, we would have solid depth. We would sign Jmac to be our 2nd PG plus with Nowell. We would lose Vando but would be worth it.


If you have given up a 1st for the "privilege" to pay Lauri, you have lost. So, no I wouldn't do that and I don't think leadership would either.

We continue to agree. :evil:
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Post#659 » by Tjstangeland » Sun Aug 8, 2021 10:23 pm

I take it you guys are content on what we have and want to role with it. I don't think its good enough. no players want to play with us because we are the Timberwolves. A S&T is the only way we can improve this team. I don't like Simmons because he can't shoot and make free throws. He is a liability but people want to give multiple 1sy round picks for him why I don't know.

Lauri is not a liability on the offensive end and people who won't give up a protected 1st round pick plus some fillers to improve this team is wrong.
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Post#660 » by Neeva » Sun Aug 8, 2021 10:28 pm

Lauri doesn’t move the needle at all. Sorry!

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