2021 SPURS OFF-SEASON ROSTER NEWS - CHANGES, RUMOURS, TRADES, SIGNINGS

[AustrianHamm3r]

The price for Simmons was way too high, that‘s fact. But don‘t forget that Simmons clearly wants out and the Sixers are unable to contact him. This leads to the situation that Philly has to (or is nearly forced) to lower the price for Ben. Philly clearly wants to trade him, so i think a trade is going down sooner or later.

[Tomjas]

The price for Simmons was way too high, that‘s fact. But don‘t forget that Simmons clearly wants out and the Sixers are unable to contact him. This leads to the situation that Philly has to (or is nearly forced) to lower the price for Ben. Philly clearly wants to trade him, so i think a trade is going down sooner or later.

Both Simmons & Maxey train with Chris Johnson in LA

They can contact him easily

[imagump1313]

Wolves fan here. Wondering if you think the Spurs would have any interest in SG/SF Jarrett Culver, the former Texas Tech standout and former #6 overall pick in 2019 draft.

Culver has been pretty underwhelming with the Wolves, and would be fair to call him a bust, but it sounds like more of a culture problem then anything. And not that Culver is a bad kid, just sounds like he never assimilated in Minnesota and with the pandemic and ankle problem he had last season, he definitely hasn’t gotten a fair shake here in Minnesota.

I don’t think it’s confirmed that we are trying to move Culver. His older brother is actually on our summer league team this year. But I think Wolves fans are more eager to move on considering (a) we drafted Anthony Edwards who plays the same position and (b) we don’t have much cap space so if we do acquire a player, it will have to be through trade and the Wolves don’t have too many traceable assets.

I’ve heard it suggested from local media in Minnesota that they think Culver would be best served going to a Texas team where he can be closer to family and star somewhere new.

Hes making roughly $6m this year, and next year is a team option, so his career is certainly at a cross roads no matter who he plays for next year.

Looking at your roster, seems like you have a lot of cap space. From an admittedly-Wolves perspective, I wonder if there is a chance for a deal here. What makes it challenging is it’s hard to know how much Culver is worth at the moment. I could be convinced he’s only worth a future second round pick at most, or that he still commands a later first rounder at least.

There’s also the fact that the Wolves are in a weird spot in that we have our roster already practically set, but we know it’s not good enough because we are mostly just returning the same team as last year, which wasn’t good—though injuries are partly to blame for that.

Anyways, I guess I am posting all of this to see if you Spurs fans think their FO would be interested in Culver. At a minimum, he is a good wing defender at the NBA level right now. His offense is what’s lacking. From what I understand, he mostly ran the offense at Texas Tech, playing a more point forward role for the team. He was dominant in the mid-range, but was average-to-subpar from 3, which isn’t great because our team was hoping he could be a 3&D guy — again, another reason why he was a poor fit here.

I’m not sure what Wolves GM Gerson Rosas has been offered for Culver, if he has even had discussions about him at all, but is there anyone on your roster who you would consider trading for Culver? The salary wouldn’t even have to match since you are so far below the luxury.

Is Thaddeus Young seriously part of your plans? Do you think the Spurs FO would consider Culver and Juancho Hernangomez for Thad Young? Have heard you are maybe pursuing Markkanen, but if that doesn’t pan out, I wonder if Hernangomez would be a decent consolation prize. Like Markkanen, Juancho is not a great frontcourt defender, so he actually played better as a SF for us last year. He’s a great cutter and two seasons ago hit 40% from deep. He seems like a Pop player.

I’m not sure the Wolves would even want Thad Young. We trade for Taurean Prince who is a similar player and our biggest need is PF that can defend the rim, which Young cannot do. Maybe if we get that far into discussions, we could bring in a third team.

Can't speak for PATFO but just looking at the rosters I don't think the Spurs would have any interest in Culver at all. He would just be another in the glut of guys we have at his size already. There is simply no room for him.

I don't think we have long term plans for Thad Young either. I'm sure we weren't seeking him out. He was just a piece that fit so we at least got something in return for DeRozan.

Now Juancho Hernangomez is interesting. But is he attractive enough to also take on Culver who would probably be sent to Austin to see what happens? I'm not sure. I would rather have Hernangomez than Young at this point in their careers but straight up? Would Minnesota do that?

[G R E Y]

Clearing room:

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Brian Wright putting in the work in asset collection department:

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[Phreak50]

I tried to forget about Joffrey and Motiejunas.

God, we've really had some iffy and soft bigs with those guys, Splitter and co.

I'm glad we didn't add Lauri to that list.

I think Jock Landale will break that mould. He is more of an outside player and floor runner but definitely goes up strong and has balls.

An NBA trainer should increase his strength and leap as well.

[RedBulls23]

What a whirlwind day. The three remaining vets we had are now on other teams.

Our best scorer and passer who was also the spearhead around whom our 2s-dominant game was S&T'd for need at experienced and expiring PFs and picks, adding height and balancing the roster - PFs playing PF, stretching the floor, but also can shift into other positions.

A SF-turned-PF who was our best 3 shooter in terms of efficiency who was a quality scorer but at times a bit ISO heavy was replaced by a FA signing who is younger, on a cheaper, short contract who shoots the 3 more efficiently and has terrific finishing at the rim numbers.

And our sharp-shooting, charge taking spirit leader is heading for a shot at a deep post-season run. We drafted a PG in the second round last season and a G in the first round this season making Bala Patty's role with us, at least as a player, smaller than he's ready for.

We wish them all the best, and turn now to the young guys who've been learning from all our vets the whole time we've also been trying to compete, who've been brought along incrementally to contribute more each year.

As they've contributed more, we've shifted to a more transition oriented game, but because our best player was a mid-ranger, we were still last in the league at 3s taken and made per game.

We've addressed issues of size up front, we've addressed issues of players at their natural positions but who are also versatile enough to play others, we've addressed the desperate need for outside shooting, and we've addressed a dearth at the bigs position.

So now after signing Aussie C Jock Landale, our roster looks like this:

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Question for you. How was DeRozan as a vocal leader on the court?

[Mulhollanddrive]

Would you guys do Dario Saric, Jalen Smith for Thaddeus Young?

[gottamakeit]

Is Dejounte Murray being shopped?
If the Mavs had an interest, would Jalen Brunson + Josh Green get a trade done?

[JeffReal]

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Question for you. How was DeRozan as a vocal leader on the court?

My recollection of DDR is that his vocalizations were mostly directed at the refs. Hardly unique in today’s NBA.

With the ball he was quick to speak, and point, for the setup he wanted. He’d talk to the other players during free throws especially during a substitution.

But I have to admit I never paid much attention to this factor about him. Others will know more than I do.

[JeffReal]

Would you guys do Dario Saric, Jalen Smith for Thaddeus Young?

Myself, I’d prefer to keep Young, at least at this time. How the Spurs would see it, I couldn’t guess.

Have they stated a timetable for Saric? I only caught the news that he was injured.

[JeffReal]

Is Dejounte Murray being shopped?
If the Mavs had an interest, would Jalen Brunson + Josh Green get a trade done?

Dejounte being shopped, no. I believe it would take a lot to pry him away.

Brunson+Green wouldn’t do it. I don’t see any chance there, especially since the Spurs already have plenty of young guards to sort out.

[gottamakeit]

Is Dejounte Murray being shopped?
If the Mavs had an interest, would Jalen Brunson + Josh Green get a trade done?

Dejounte being shopped, no. I believe it would take a lot to pry him away.

Brunson+Green wouldn’t do it. I don’t see any chance there, especially since the Spurs already have plenty of young guards to sort out.

Gotcha.
With key veterans gone, it seems like you guys will go for a youth movement. Are the Spurs finally embracing the tank?

[Ballings7]

Too bad the Sixers front office is delusional like always......

Morey 101

Spurs are an ideal trading partner due to their hoarding of guards and picks

Here’s an example

IF Dame wants out (highly doubtful) and Simmons is going

Sixers get Dame

Spurs get Simmons (Klutch)

Blazers get Murray (Klutch), Maxey (Klutch) plus picks from Sixers and Spurs

A trade like this seems reasonable. But the Sixers FO aren't looking for reasonable. The asking price they want for Simmons is laughable and no one is going to touch it.

Maybe something eventually materializes.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/263826/Warriors-Spurs-Wolves-Among-Teams-Interested-In-Trade-For-Ben-Simmons

[LAL1947]

Is Dejounte Murray being shopped?
If the Mavs had an interest, would Jalen Brunson + Josh Green get a trade done?

Dejounte being shopped, no. I believe it would take a lot to pry him away.

Brunson+Green wouldn’t do it. I don’t see any chance there, especially since the Spurs already have plenty of young guards to sort out.

I came in here to ask the same thing cos I was curious, hehe.

[imagump1313]

Is Dejounte Murray being shopped?
If the Mavs had an interest, would Jalen Brunson + Josh Green get a trade done?

Dejounte being shopped, no. I believe it would take a lot to pry him away.

Brunson+Green wouldn’t do it. I don’t see any chance there, especially since the Spurs already have plenty of young guards to sort out.

I came in here to ask the same thing cos I was curious, hehe.

I don't think they are shopping him but if its a necessity to get Simmons they might do it.

[imagump1313]

I think we should trade for Covington and Saric and then offer them to Philly for Simmons

[Phreak50]

Is Dejounte Murray being shopped?
If the Mavs had an interest, would Jalen Brunson + Josh Green get a trade done?

I reckon they'll listen to big name offers that's it

[G R E Y]

What a whirlwind day. The three remaining vets we had are now on other teams.

Our best scorer and passer who was also the spearhead around whom our 2s-dominant game was S&T'd for need at experienced and expiring PFs and picks, adding height and balancing the roster - PFs playing PF, stretching the floor, but also can shift into other positions.

A SF-turned-PF who was our best 3 shooter in terms of efficiency who was a quality scorer but at times a bit ISO heavy was replaced by a FA signing who is younger, on a cheaper, short contract who shoots the 3 more efficiently and has terrific finishing at the rim numbers.

And our sharp-shooting, charge taking spirit leader is heading for a shot at a deep post-season run. We drafted a PG in the second round last season and a G in the first round this season making Bala Patty's role with us, at least as a player, smaller than he's ready for.

We wish them all the best, and turn now to the young guys who've been learning from all our vets the whole time we've also been trying to compete, who've been brought along incrementally to contribute more each year.

As they've contributed more, we've shifted to a more transition oriented game, but because our best player was a mid-ranger, we were still last in the league at 3s taken and made per game.

We've addressed issues of size up front, we've addressed issues of players at their natural positions but who are also versatile enough to play others, we've addressed the desperate need for outside shooting, and we've addressed a dearth at the bigs position.

So now after signing Aussie C Jock Landale, our roster looks like this:

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Question for you. How was DeRozan as a vocal leader on the court?

Hey, sorry for the delay. Computer issues. To your question, DeMar is a balanced blend between being a good leader for the young guys on and off the court as well as blending in to the situation and system. You're not going to get 3s out of him, but you will get a guy who always stand up for his teammates, who instructs the young guys on the court, or at least clarifies what the play is rather than just dominating and shutting them out, and he is also very good during timeouts (team or tv) talking to the young guys on the sidelines. Your young players will glow about what a great vet he is to learn from and how much they get to soak in. Hope that helps!

[RedBulls23]

What a whirlwind day. The three remaining vets we had are now on other teams.

Our best scorer and passer who was also the spearhead around whom our 2s-dominant game was S&T'd for need at experienced and expiring PFs and picks, adding height and balancing the roster - PFs playing PF, stretching the floor, but also can shift into other positions.

A SF-turned-PF who was our best 3 shooter in terms of efficiency who was a quality scorer but at times a bit ISO heavy was replaced by a FA signing who is younger, on a cheaper, short contract who shoots the 3 more efficiently and has terrific finishing at the rim numbers.

And our sharp-shooting, charge taking spirit leader is heading for a shot at a deep post-season run. We drafted a PG in the second round last season and a G in the first round this season making Bala Patty's role with us, at least as a player, smaller than he's ready for.

We wish them all the best, and turn now to the young guys who've been learning from all our vets the whole time we've also been trying to compete, who've been brought along incrementally to contribute more each year.

As they've contributed more, we've shifted to a more transition oriented game, but because our best player was a mid-ranger, we were still last in the league at 3s taken and made per game.

We've addressed issues of size up front, we've addressed issues of players at their natural positions but who are also versatile enough to play others, we've addressed the desperate need for outside shooting, and we've addressed a dearth at the bigs position.

So now after signing Aussie C Jock Landale, our roster looks like this:

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Question for you. How was DeRozan as a vocal leader on the court?

Hey, sorry for the delay. Computer issues. To your question, DeMar is a balanced blend between being a good leader for the young guys on and off the court as well as blending in to the situation and system. You're not going to get 3s out of him, but you will get a guy who always stand up for his teammates, who instructs the young guys on the court, or at least clarifies what the play is rather than just dominating and shutting them out, and he is also very good during timeouts (team or tv) talking to the young guys on the sidelines. Your young players will glow about what a great vet he is to learn from and how much they get to soak in. Hope that helps!

Yeah it does. Obviously outside of talent issues, Bulls have lacked vocal leaders on the court. Glad to hear that is something he can fill in. Makes a difference when it's someone as respected as Demar.

[G R E Y]

Details of our finalized transactions are making news. First, a very low-risk, team-friendly deal for Zach Collins:

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Very solid return for a UFA S&T. We get assets for now that fill a need and quality picks to stock the cupboard:

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DeMar left a classy message to the Spurs:

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And we've signed Primo as well:

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So now that leaves signing Joe Wieskamp (two way?), Bryn, and Landale.