What teams are beating a dead horse?

[dirkforpres]

Dallas has been surrounding a Euro superstar with garbage for about 25 years now.

I’d really like for that to change one day

Garbage? Jason Terry would like to have a word with you.

I mean, I love Terry and Tyson and all of that 2011 team but JET is arguably the worst 2nd option of any championship team in history

[Sothron]

I take this topic to mean which teams are basically stuck and need a new direction. I will say the Blazers and Cavs. Portland is like the Joe Johnson Hawks: good enough to make the playoffs, hard cap at second round appearance. Rinse, repeat. Cleveland is seemingly addicted to the lottery with no real plan of building a team. Why is Kevin Love still on that team?

[Pointgod]

8-) What teams need a whole new direction?

The Pacers - They are the definition of a treadmill team. It doesn't look like they are getting better anytime soon.

Timberwolves - I don't see Kat and D'lo leading them anywhere.

Blazers - I like the players they have but they have the same outcome every year.

I’d add the Wizards to this list. Just treading water and I don’t see the direction they’re trying to go in.

Cleveland getting Ricky Rubio is head scratching, not trading Love or Sexton.

[kuclas]

76ers tanked for years to peak at a couple of second round exits

Middleton and Giannis have been teammates for 7 years before they won.

Simmons and Embiid 4 years

So the issue is when do you break them up. Do you give it a 5th season together?

After the bucks went out in second round last season. Many bucks fans wanted to blow up
The team including getting rid of
Middleton. That’s after 6 seasons together. 4 straight playoff seasons involving 2 first round losses. A second round loss and a eastern finals loss.

So I say run it back another season with Embiid and Simmons. Worst they will be is a 3rd seed. But who knows if Simmons has a brain fart in playoffs again.

[MagicBagley18]

portland and boston.

Right now Boston is going all in on creating a winning team next year (avoiding making any small trades that won't really help them this year, but puting themselves in great position next year). If they can get Beal next year, they will have a really good team that is right up there with the rest of the top teams in the league. I would hardly calling that beating a dead horse (now if the Beal thing falls through, and / or they don't get another top star to go with the Jays, then yeah, go ahead and call it the dead horse thing)

Also, it's kind of funny hearing a Laker fan say this. The Lakers aren't quite beating a dead horse, instead they are beating a 75 year old Nag that can hardly stand on it's own four feet anymore, and is going to require lots and lots of resting just to make it through the season.

Boston has no chance to acquire Beal IMO, its easier to LA get rid of all the "old horses" and sign him than Boston

You keep saying this but it’s not true. If beal decides to leave the wizards- which is an if situation the Celtics have a real good shot at him. No chance is just gross hyperbole and wrong. A lock to get him? No. Will get him? no but no chance is just stupid and foolish to say.

There’s been at least 3 different reputable people who said if beal ever left dc that Boston has a chance at him....David Aldridge, dumas from Philly & Kevin O’Connor from the ringer.

[jkvonny]

8-) What teams need a whole new direction?

The Pacers - They are the definition of a treadmill team. It doesn't look like they are getting better anytime soon.

Timberwolves - I don't see Kat and D'lo leading them anywhere.

Blazers - I like the players they have but they have the same outcome every year.

Beating a dead horse as in stuck in purgatory? What are the chances they tank and be contenders for the next 5 years?
I am more disgusted with tankers like Orlando, Rockets and Cleveland. These teams didn't even try to be at least decent.
I will watch the games of Pacers, TWolves and Blazers and wouldn't even care about tankers, in fact I hope they get punished for not even trying. Houston already tanked last year and will do it again this season.

The Rockets just plain suck.

[ReddoverKobe]

portland and boston.

Right now Boston is going all in on creating a winning team next year (avoiding making any small trades that won't really help them this year, but puting themselves in great position next year). If they can get Beal next year, they will have a really good team that is right up there with the rest of the top teams in the league. I would hardly calling that beating a dead horse (now if the Beal thing falls through, and / or they don't get another top star to go with the Jays, then yeah, go ahead and call it the dead horse thing)

Also, it's kind of funny hearing a Laker fan say this. The Lakers aren't quite beating a dead horse, instead they are beating a 75 year old Nag that can hardly stand on it's own four feet anymore, and is going to require lots and lots of resting just to make it through the season.

How does adding another wing that needs the ball make them a title contender?

[UcanUwill]

As of now, the obvious answer is the Pacers.

They were not good enough to make a noise in the playoffs. Meanwhile not bad enough to get a high draft pick. And this offseason they did nothing to change that. They are just running it back. Still no star or top prospect to build the franchise around.

Pacers have been stuck in mediocrity for quite sometime and they seem to be too comfortable in it.

Lots of wrong went in Pacers camp last year. I think THE obvious choice he is definitely Portland. Team just not good enough to be a real threat, same core every year, no exiting draft picks, shot cap space, its just the same first round exit again.

[LakersSoul]

Treadmill team: Portland. Always the playoffs and a gunslinger at helm but not really dangerous. Dame should push to make the FO become more creative but he is too nice and probably enjoys his life, why not.

As for What are these teams doing?: SacTown, Orlando and clueless Houston. What a mess. NO might get into that group if they waste another year.

[Edug27]

Boston? They are building around 23 and 24 year old all stars. Not sure how they can be mentioned here.

[MagicBagley18]

portland and boston.

Right now Boston is going all in on creating a winning team next year (avoiding making any small trades that won't really help them this year, but puting themselves in great position next year). If they can get Beal next year, they will have a really good team that is right up there with the rest of the top teams in the league. I would hardly calling that beating a dead horse (now if the Beal thing falls through, and / or they don't get another top star to go with the Jays, then yeah, go ahead and call it the dead horse thing)

Also, it's kind of funny hearing a Laker fan say this. The Lakers aren't quite beating a dead horse, instead they are beating a 75 year old Nag that can hardly stand on it's own four feet anymore, and is going to require lots and lots of resting just to make it through the season.

How does adding another wing that needs the ball make them a title contender?

For one it adds another true elite number 1 scoring option next to Jayson Tatum. It slides Jaylen brown to an elite number 3 where he should be and if he is he can go to having less of a load on offense and focus some more on defense where he has potential to be elite.
Beal has also shown a great ability to continuously move without the ball - so he is capable of coming off screens, going back door and cuts something that the Celtics greatly need.

Lastly it also makes it much easier to move brown for another superstar with picks if the skills are too redundant. beal brown Tatum is a contender.

[DarkXaero]

The Knicks just committed to a team for the next 3 years that will likely remain a 1st round exit.

[iLLmatic860]

The Knicks just committed to a team for the next 3 years that will likely remain a 1st round exit.

Maybe do research to get your facts straight. Lol rent free

[MoneyTalks41890]

OKC, the multi year tank and continual kicking the can down the road is a terrible look.

So far only tanked last yr.

Since 2010, only the Spurs have won more NBA games than the Thunder. Thunder were the 4th seed the season before this last one. People just say whatever on here.

[AingesBurner]

Blazers, they are too afraid to trade CJ to improve the team.

[DaGawd]

The Knicks just committed to a team for the next 3 years that will likely remain a 1st round exit.

Wrong

[DarkXaero]

The Knicks just committed to a team for the next 3 years that will likely remain a 1st round exit.

Maybe do research to get your facts straight. Lol rent free

The thread asked a question, I'm responding to it, there's no need to get so defensive. Correct me if I'm wrong but Randle + Fournier are signed to significant money for the next 3 years guaranteed.

[DarkXaero]

The Knicks just committed to a team for the next 3 years that will likely remain a 1st round exit.

Wrong

Which part?

[bisme37]

I don't know how the Celts are beating a dead horse when the roster has been wildly different every season in recent memory. After Tatum Brown and Smart it's a completely different supporting cast every year.

If y'all just want to take this opportunity to say we suck, ok whatever. But I'm not getting the dead horse narrative.

[JXL]

I see the Blazers and the Pelicans as those teams.

Blazers for not improving around the edges for Lillard to seriously compete. Adding mediocre players doesn't get you out of the first round, it makes you play-in fodder.

Pelicans for not making a better offer to get Lonzo Ball to stay and piss off yet another transcendent talent to bolt your franchise.

Honorable mention is the Celtics. Unless they improve the depth at the frontcourt, and get headstrong veterans in that locker room, they're a ticking time bomb.