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Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4

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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1501 » by Nyce_1 » Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:52 am

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Cole kinda looks like he has an ego problem. The way he was looking at Suggs and reluctantly passing to him or waving him off. He seems kinda toxic.

He has a great attitude around the team but I caught that too. It's a 2nd year player being outplayed by rookie in game 1; and with the game on the line, who wants to give up the ball. we'll see what happens game 2.

Kid is trash. Future bench player. Sooner the Magic move on from him and give Suggs point guard duty the better.

nothing to move on from. Suggs will be the starting PG day 1. Cole will be a backup and when he's due for a contract, bye.
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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1502 » by Clutch0z24 » Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:53 am

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PrinceAli wrote:Suggs was playing with 3 other 1st round picks while Barnes had just 1 in Flynn. On top of that, his Big man went 1-9 and couldn’t finish **** (Gillespie)



Just cause they were 3 1st round picks doesnt make them good players...That Orlando squad is complete ass tbh ...

Our team has alot more capable players ...Our SL team is Deep af tbh

It actually does mean something. 2 guys were playing significant minutes in the NBA on a team with a better record than us. They play selfish but the Orlando squad has decent players for the Summer league

Having 1 assist isn’t acceptable for a guy who’s supposed to run an offense, whether he has weapons around him or not. He had less assists than all the other starters and 2 guys coming off the bench

Now obviously it’s summer league so it doesn’t really mean much but saying he has an ass team around him is just an excuse


Like i said before he didn't have the ball in his hand for basically none of the game until the 4th and OT...They let Anthony run PG all game....Its hard to get assists when the Coach is playing you standing in the corner while Cole dribbles and throws up Brick floaters for most the game....

That being said if Magic ran Suggs at PG all game like they should have im sure you would see more of his playmaking ability...
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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1503 » by Blacklash2k4 » Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:53 am

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Just cause they were 3 1st round picks doesnt make them good players...That Orlando squad is complete ass tbh ...

Our team has alot more capable players ...Our SL team is Deep af tbh


Especially when we add Yuta and Precious


We can win this thing!

I hope Yuta comes back a transformed player from his Olympic run, same hustle and defense but a way more assertive scorer.


I think he will be better offensively and hit more consistently from three, but i think we should temper our expectations. He was playing well on the Japan team because he was the second best player on that team and had more control of the offense.
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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1504 » by WetLikeWater » Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:53 am

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Green didn't do anything other then score. He might've passed the ball 4-5 times all game. :lol:

He's a bucket getter though. No doubt about that.



Well that is something we were lacking, a walking bucket during the time of need! He will become an elite scorer in the future!


It might be what we are lacking but that doesn't mean his game jumps ahead of Suggs and Barnes. They both had better overall games.


So you are telling me you rather have a Draymond Green/ Lowry over James Harden
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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1505 » by Wargreymon » Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:54 am

Gonna need some melatonin tonight...yep.
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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1506 » by everdiso » Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:54 am

For all the fun we had ragging on him, I think Suggs reminds me a bit of Jimmy Butler, though maybe a 2-3 inches shorter which might impede his ability to finish at the rim like Jimmy.
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Post#1507 » by dc » Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:54 am

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dc wrote:C'mon dude. Barnes looks like a pretty gifted player but he's nowhere in the neighborhood of Giannis.

As stated before, he can be a modern day Iggy/Draymond/AK47 type of high level glue guy. He's not likely to do well as a primary scorer.



Why is suggs touted as some primary scorer in the league but when you check the numbers its never much better than scottie who isnt a scorer at all lmao


I don't know how good a team would be with Suggs having a Lillard/Beal role (I mean, the Wiz aren't very good with Beal doing that), but it wouldn't be hard to envision Suggs in the "lead guard" role a la Jrue or Lowry and perhaps in the most optimistic scenario, a healthy Brandon Roy.

If he plays defense like that on a regular basis, he could definitely be a Jrue type.
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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1508 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:55 am

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PrinceAli wrote:Suggs was playing with 3 other 1st round picks while Barnes had just 1 in Flynn. On top of that, his Big man went 1-9 and couldn’t finish **** (Gillespie)



Just cause they were 3 1st round picks doesnt make them good players...That Orlando squad is complete ass tbh ...

Our team has alot more capable players ...Our SL team is Deep af tbh

It actually does mean something. 2 guys were playing significant minutes in the NBA on a team with a better record than us. They play selfish but the Orlando squad has decent players for the Summer league

Having 1 assist isn’t acceptable for a guy who’s supposed to run an offense, whether he has weapons around him or not. He had less assists than all the other starters and 2 guys coming off the bench

Now obviously it’s summer league so it doesn’t really mean much but saying he has an ass team around him is just an excuse


But he wasn't getting to run the offense, because Cole had the ball far more. Make him the only pg with wings and a big, and a more organized offence, and he will get assists.
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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1509 » by Bruin » Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:56 am

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Just cause they were 3 1st round picks doesnt make them good players...That Orlando squad is complete ass tbh ...

Our team has alot more capable players ...Our SL team is Deep af tbh

It actually does mean something. 2 guys were playing significant minutes in the NBA on a team with a better record than us. They play selfish but the Orlando squad has decent players for the Summer league

Having 1 assist isn’t acceptable for a guy who’s supposed to run an offense, whether he has weapons around him or not. He had less assists than all the other starters and 2 guys coming off the bench

Now obviously it’s summer league so it doesn’t really mean much but saying he has an ass team around him is just an excuse


Like i said before he didn't have the ball in his hand for basically none of the game until the 4th and OT...They let Anthony run PG all game....Its hard to get assists when the Coach is playing you standing in the corner while Cole dribbles and throws up Brick floaters for most the game....

That being said if Magic ran Suggs at PG all game like they should have im sure you would see more of his playmaking ability...

I don’t doubt that. I’m sure if he had the ball more he’d get assists. Let’s also acknowledge that Barnes didn’t get to really run PG for us with Flynn either

Anyways I’m sure Suggs will be a great playmaker in the league. He’ll need to tone down the turnovers that he had in college but today was a good start in that regard
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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1510 » by Phezmo123 » Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:56 am

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Phezmo123 wrote:Scottie can become Giannis with a jumper here.

We needed a superstar. This was the only way.


C'mon dude. Barnes looks like a pretty gifted player but he's nowhere in the neighborhood of Giannis.

As stated before, he can be a modern day Iggy/Draymond/AK47 type of high level glue guy. He's not likely to do well as a primary scorer.



Why is suggs touted as some primary scorer in the league but when you check the numbers its never much better than scottie who isnt a scorer at all lmao

Suggs has not shown me any elite scoring potential. He'll be a Jrue Holiday-level player, but that is not an "elite guard."

Scottie can legitimately be a superstar in this game. Give it 3 years.
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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1511 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:57 am

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Especially when we add Yuta and Precious


We can win this thing!

I hope Yuta comes back a transformed player from his Olympic run, same hustle and defense but a way more assertive scorer.


I think he will be better offensively and hit more consistently from three, but i think we should temper our expectations. He was playing well on the Japan team because he was the second best player on that team and had more control of the offense.


I know, that's the trick of being an NBA bench player. Can you come in and do your thing in shorter bursts.
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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1512 » by Scott Hall » Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:57 am

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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1513 » by DonDoolie » Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:57 am

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He wasnt playing lead guard today ....Cole anthony ran PG all game long ....Which was brutal ...He was waving off suggs alot and Suggs was standing in the corner playing off ball....Magic need to have the ball in Suggs hand all game long if they want to develop him right....He is a good playmaker though just Magic coaches are playing him wrong


He had the ball in his hands way more than anyone on the court. Cole Anthony sucks but Cole Anthony didn't force Suggs to shoot 22 times


Were you watching the game? .....Suggs didnt have the ball in his hand for nearly close to the amount Cole had it ....They gave the ball to Suggs late in the 4th most and overtime and he came up with big plays to get the W while Cole before that was going 1 on 3 throwing up air ball floaters...

If Suggs had the Ball in his hands all game long he would have had more assists ...But then again prolly not cause all the Magic SL team is ass



I don't think you watched the game if you think Suggs didn't have the ball in his hands more than anothony. Also nothing you said has to do with Suggs playmaking all you're doing is **** on Cole anthony as an excuse for his 1 assist.
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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1514 » by Bruin » Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:58 am

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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1515 » by will » Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:59 am

Hansari wrote:Half this board seems to think there are only 2 ways this thing can go:

1. Scottie becomes a superstar and Suggs is a Jerryd Bayless reincarnated
2. Suggs becomes a superstar and Scottie busts harder than Kwame Brown

There is another universe where both Barnes and Suggs become very good players (same tier or one surpasses the other).

We're discussing the #4 and #5 picks in a stacked draft class - let's relax, Scottie played like a #4 pick that is raw but oozing with potential, Suggs played like a #5 pick that has a much higher floor. Only time will tell who ends up where, but let's be happy for both these guys.


Real talk.

I am confused as to why people are so focused on Suggs. Raps did not even draft him.
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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1516 » by dc » Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:59 am

Phezmo123 wrote:Scottie can legitimately be a superstar in this game. Give it 3 years.


I never got the impression from watching his HS or college games that Barnes is THAT kind of scorer who most superstars are.

He always had the look of a high level glue guy.
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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1517 » by HumbleRen » Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:00 am

I cannot wait for the Suggs/Barnes match up lol. This **** feels like a WWE storyline :lol:
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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1518 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:00 am

Yeah, like when you realize it's FVV, Dragic and Flynn this year. Where does he get time for us.
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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1519 » by 720 » Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:01 am

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Phezmo123 wrote:Scottie can legitimately be a superstar in this game. Give it 3 years.


I never got the impression from watching his HS or college games that Barnes is THAT kind of scorer who most superstars are.

He always had the look of a high level glue guy.

His role in high school was that of a glue guy. He was a bench player in college. We'll see how he does with starter level minutes and most focus on offense.
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Re: Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4 

Post#1520 » by MavCarter » Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:01 am

will wrote:
Hansari wrote:Half this board seems to think there are only 2 ways this thing can go:

1. Scottie becomes a superstar and Suggs is a Jerryd Bayless reincarnated
2. Suggs becomes a superstar and Scottie busts harder than Kwame Brown

There is another universe where both Barnes and Suggs become very good players (same tier or one surpasses the other).

We're discussing the #4 and #5 picks in a stacked draft class - let's relax, Scottie played like a #4 pick that is raw but oozing with potential, Suggs played like a #5 pick that has a much higher floor. Only time will tell who ends up where, but let's be happy for both these guys.


Real talk.

I am confused as to why people are so focused on Suggs. Raps did not even draft him.



Theres a lot of people dying to say i told you so. They should email the front office instead of making us painfully read through it though
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