OKC is a disgrace

[The Rebel]

That team had reached its apex and was on the way down. Our idiot GM (coach Bud) before him let Horford and Millsap walk for nothing. That is not how you run a franchise. Schlenk started a rebuild and stopped before last season. That was what 2 or 3 seasons. That is hardly the process where teams don't even try. OKC had a team that even made the playoffs and that wasn't good enough for Presti so he had to get rid of those players as well as hold out SAG and Horford last season. The Hawks never did that.

What OKC is doing and what Philly did should be banned. When OKC actually made the playoffs with a solid team and that got torn up as well that is a problem.

So the difference is that you follow one team and not the others? Because the results are the same, the actions during those years. Are the same, the only difference is how you perceive those actions.

Almost every word in your post is so wrong it is hard to respond without laughter.

OKC intentionally holds healthy players out to lose games. Atlanta does not.

OKC trades away a team that makes the playoffs after trying to tank. Atlanta does not do that.

OKC buckles down on tanking after making the playoffs despite trying to tank and trades away all players of value except one. Atlanta does not do that.

So the difference is pretty stark between Atlanta and OKC. If you don't see that you are just disagreeing to disagree.

Schlenk didn't take over a playoff team and immediately run off their best player? He didn't buy out guys and trade players for worse players with picks? He didn't buy out any veterans? They didn't trade for a superstar and immediately buy him out?

That Hawks didn't sit any healthy veterans over the last 4 years? What about Capela? Where was Snell to start this season?

Just because the Thunder are better at it doesn't change the fact that the Hawks blew up a playoff team and openly tanked for years. Whether you like a team or not does not change the facts. It is actually funny how you are on here bitching about other teams and still trying to defend the Hawks, really makes you look like a homer.

[dickfox]

Everything is riding on Poku and that's just fine...

[MoneyTalks41890]

Some of the posters itt are known trolls that just shouldn't be taken seriously. The rest of you, I really question your understanding of the NBA. It appears very limited.

[Sothron]

So the difference is that you follow one team and not the others? Because the results are the same, the actions during those years. Are the same, the only difference is how you perceive those actions.

Almost every word in your post is so wrong it is hard to respond without laughter.

OKC intentionally holds healthy players out to lose games. Atlanta does not.

OKC trades away a team that makes the playoffs after trying to tank. Atlanta does not do that.

OKC buckles down on tanking after making the playoffs despite trying to tank and trades away all players of value except one. Atlanta does not do that.

So the difference is pretty stark between Atlanta and OKC. If you don't see that you are just disagreeing to disagree.

Schlenk didn't take over a playoff team and immediately run off their best player? He didn't buy out guys and trade players for worse players with picks? He didn't buy out any veterans? They didn't trade for a superstar and immediately buy him out?

That Hawks didn't sit any healthy veterans over the last 4 years? What about Capela? Where was Snell to start this season?

Just because the Thunder are better at it doesn't change the fact that the Hawks blew up a playoff team and openly tanked for years. Whether you like a team or not does not change the facts. It is actually funny how you are on here bitching about other teams and still trying to defend the Hawks, really makes you look like a homer.

As I said and you just confirmed you are just disagreeing to disagree offering nothing of substance. Schlenk didn't hold out healthy players to tank games. He didn't blow up a team to tank, still make the playoffs, and instead of building around that team blow it up to be so badly they couldn't win games. Capela was not healthy when he was sat out he was injured.

There's a difference between a normal rebuild and "the process" where you commit to several seasons of intentionally being God awful. One is a natural cycle of a team's life and the other is an intentional decision to be not even competitive for an untold amount of years. There's a reason why people including myself don't have a problem with a normal rebuild. It is "the process" that is a problem. Atlanta executed a perfect rebuild. Calling the Thunder "better at it" than Atlanta is laughable if not outright delusional. Get back to me when the Thunder make the playoffs again and tell me they were "better at it" than the Atlanta rebuild.

[The Rebel]

Almost every word in your post is so wrong it is hard to respond without laughter.

OKC intentionally holds healthy players out to lose games. Atlanta does not.

OKC trades away a team that makes the playoffs after trying to tank. Atlanta does not do that.

OKC buckles down on tanking after making the playoffs despite trying to tank and trades away all players of value except one. Atlanta does not do that.

So the difference is pretty stark between Atlanta and OKC. If you don't see that you are just disagreeing to disagree.

Schlenk didn't take over a playoff team and immediately run off their best player? He didn't buy out guys and trade players for worse players with picks? He didn't buy out any veterans? They didn't trade for a superstar and immediately buy him out?

That Hawks didn't sit any healthy veterans over the last 4 years? What about Capela? Where was Snell to start this season?

Just because the Thunder are better at it doesn't change the fact that the Hawks blew up a playoff team and openly tanked for years. Whether you like a team or not does not change the facts. It is actually funny how you are on here bitching about other teams and still trying to defend the Hawks, really makes you look like a homer.

As I said and you just confirmed you are just disagreeing to disagree offering nothing of substance. Schlenk didn't hold out healthy players to tank games. He didn't blow up a team to tank, still make the playoffs, and instead of building around that team blow it up to be so badly they couldn't win games. Capela was not healthy when he was sat out he was injured.

There's a difference between a normal rebuild and "the process" where you commit to several seasons of intentionally being God awful. One is a natural cycle of a team's life and the other is an intentional decision to be not even competitive for an untold amount of years. There's a reason why people including myself don't have a problem with a normal rebuild. It is "the process" that is a problem. Atlanta executed a perfect rebuild. Calling the Thunder "better at it" than Atlanta is laughable if not outright delusional. Get back to me when the Thunder make the playoffs again and tell me they were "better at it" than the Atlanta rebuild.

Schlenk didn't tell Millsap that he was not offering him a deal just a couple of weeks after the Hawks list in the playoffs?

Dude I am not disagreeing to disagree, I am pointing out the fact that you are continuing to lie about what the Hawks did so you feel better bitching about other teams doing it. Snell was told not to report to training camp not even a year ago yet they didn't sit him? Why lie? If you hate tanking then you hate tanking, evenn when your team does it, when you defend your team while bitching about other teams doing it that just makes you a homer.

[The_Hater]

Considering AD made it clear that he was only going to the Lakers I don't think their young talent was much of a factor.

It don’t think were getting AD without Ingram, Ball and Hart caliber young talent in the deal. And Magic gave away just about every other good young player they drafted.

But I would also argue that it was a 5 year tank/rebuild. 27-55 on the front end and the 35-47 season before signing Bron on the other end.

You have been on this board and following the NBA way too long to believe that when a star player decides that he is only going to 1 team that the assets that team has matters in the least bit. Even when Popovich refused to trade Kawhi to the Lakers it had nothing to do with young talent and everything to do with Pop refusing to do anything to help Kawhi or the Lakers.

Well I’ve seen star players ask to be traded to teams like the Lakers and Clippers all the time, and quite often it never gets off the ground because there obviously isn’t enough assets or salaries on the one end to make the deal happen. If we only concentrate on the trade demands that actually go through to a specific team then yes, it seems they always get what they want.

[rmfc]

What kind of roster is that today?
Might as well not play the game at all?
How the hell are the 70 percent of the squad injured? I thought medical technologies have advanced?
Plus, how the hell are the broadcast companies paying billions of dollars for this kind of product?

Please discuss.

All NBA fans may have to be ready for another similar (equally horrendous or even 2X worse) version of OKC this season.

[baldur]

What kind of roster is that today?
Might as well not play the game at all?
How the hell are the 70 percent of the squad injured? I thought medical technologies have advanced?
Plus, how the hell are the broadcast companies paying billions of dollars for this kind of product?

Please discuss.

All NBA fans may have to be ready for another similar (equally horrendous or even 2X worse) version of OKC this season.

Why? I thought sga is a superstar.

[DudetheObscure]

Lo freaking L. Okc’s stock piling and fetish of picks cost them Sengun. Okc took Kemba for the first rounder and was going to trade Kemba to get more out of him. There were rumors of the thunder trying to trade shai to go get Cade. They are just absolutely tanking and hoping they get rewarded

Lost them Sengun? That's hilarious. Houston fans should be worried that Presti could've drafted Sengun, but chose to take 2 future FRPs that will likely be in the no. 16 range. If Presti thought Sengun could defend the pick and roll in the NBA he would've drafted him.

The Shai + no. 6 for Cade is equally ridiculous. It never happened. If Presti proposed that trade he should be fired. If Weaver turned it down he should be fired as well.

Actually a couple of teams were supposed to take him; he was a top 10 pick in most mock drafts. He's an analytical wet dream; seriously he topped out in Pelton's model and many others.

Those picks he got are so heavily protected; they are almost worthless.

What is Presti's plans for all these picks anyway? Trading for a disgruntled star or will he actually want to move up in next year's draft? How many picks does this guy need?

I like Sengun. He reminds me of Damontis Sabonis, but I only saw his offensive highlights so I can't speak to his defensive abilities. Presti obviously doesn't think he can play defense in the NBA ("Can't play Kanter") so I'm going to trust Sam on this one.

[Big J]

Presti is an idiot for passing on Kuminga and Sengun. He’s trying way too hard to out think the room.

[Tomjas]

This goes into the time will tell file

Presto has done a great job hoarding picks

However, he also has SGA and he’s not going to hang around forever

Will need to make some moves with those picks soon

[God Squad]

OKC gonna tank next year, and with the new draft rules there's no guarantee they get a top pick. For all we know they'll be on the outside looking in again at the top prospects. But I understand hording the picks to have a chance at said players.

[C3H6N6O6]

And what is the cause of blatant tanking. It's the advent of superteams that leaves the middle of the pack literally helpless. In that it is worse to be a 8 seed than the worst team in the league.

Hinkies and Prestis didn't exist in the 90s when more than 1-2 teams felt like they had a shot at a title

Guess how San Antonio got David Robinson? It was the tank of all tanks.

It's okay to not be a historian of the game and to have only started following it recently. But please trust me that this didn't start with Hinkie. Not even close.

You mean Tim Duncan right？that was a one time opportunistic tank since their franchise player got injured for the year.

Show me a 90s team that actively fielded the worst teams they can before the season even started, and stockpiled picks like Presti and Hinkie did

Lol at you chuck lecturing me about the history.of the game when you cant even get Robinson/Duncan right

David Robinson could have easily come back during the season but didn't.

[Big J]

Get this G League trash outta here. They could easily package some picks, sign some vets and actually compete. Young guys need vets to teach them how to win.

[Big J]

Silver needs to step in. This nonsense should be unacceptable.

[Tracymcgoaty]

Losing by 50 is ridiculous lol. Crazy.

[NRSV]

What kind of roster is that today?
Might as well not play the game at all?
How the hell are the 70 percent of the squad injured? I thought medical technologies have advanced?
Plus, how the hell are the broadcast companies paying billions of dollars for this kind of product?

Please discuss.

Pretty good rap verse ngl

[Big J]

The thing that bothers me is that they could easily package a few picks for some vets and put together a team that actually competes night in and night out.

[Shock Defeat]

They lost 2x in a row to the Rockets, lol

[baldur]

This thread aged well. Thanks for saving us on opening a new thread every year dear okc. Loooool.