Summer League Thread Part 2: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4

[Asif16]

Suggs and Barnes are uncomparable too, considering the different play in styles.

I think its easy to guess that Jalen Suggs will most likely have more PPG than Barnes. But that shouldn't mean he's automatically better considering Barnes will lead in other Categories such as Rebounss/Blocks/Alterations. Also his ability to guard 1-5 will be more impactful.

Regardless, both players looks like they're going to be really good

[Psubs]

Suggs and Barnes are uncomparable too, considering the different play in styles.

I think its easy to guess that Jalen Suggs will most likely have more PPG than Barnes. But that shouldn't mean he's automatically better considering Barnes will lead in other Categories such as Rebounss/Blocks/Alterations. Also his ability to guard 1-5 will be more impactful.

Regardless, both players looks like they're going to be really good

It's like comparing Jrue and Giannnis.

[Kevin Willis]

Hey anyone else peep that Josh Green didn't play today in summerleague.

Keep a close eye. I think the Dragic trade to the Mavs is inevitable. How do you not play your healthy first round pick lol

Yeah found that strange when I chkd the box score ,was a fan of green and tyrel in that draft

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This is the excuse from the Mavs end lol.

Dwain Price: #Mavs summer league coach Greg St. Jean said Josh Green won’t play for the Mavs in the summer league. Green just finished winning an Olympic bronze medal with Australia. St. Jean said Green will be in Las Vegas and practicing with the Mavs and will sit on the bench during games.

Precious just finished playing in the Olympics and he's ready to go not to mention Giddey tried playing last night. There is definetly something going on.

Green is a good prospect with the required wingspan but he's soooo young. It would feel like we're running a daycare. Boucher is starting to look old and he's not even 30.

[reeelax]

Suggs and Barnes are uncomparable too, considering the different play in styles.

I think its easy to guess that Jalen Suggs will most likely have more PPG than Barnes. But that shouldn't mean he's automatically better considering Barnes will lead in other Categories such as Rebounss/Blocks/Alterations. Also his ability to guard 1-5 will be more impactful.

Regardless, both players looks like they're going to be really good

Yup, absolutely. Barnes will be used in a flex role. Especially with other players talking about the team being positionless. Whereas Suggs will absolutely be running that team in a PG role. Sports are supposed to be enjoyed, I look forward to seeing both of these guys (and this entire draft class) develop over the years.

[Asif16]

Jalen suggs reminds me a lot of a young Deron Williams

[AussieRaptor]

Actually was worse, -18.

Ah, my bad. Must’ve had Barnes +11 in my head. That only exaggerates my point. Suggs didn’t win them the game despite having a couple of + plays at the end. I’m not dumping on him. I like Suggs and he played well, but Magic were significantly outscored with him on the floor.

Imagine putting a team playing well and scoring all on one player though? you acting like Suggs guards all 5 positions lol makes no sense....Warriors were playing well and then he came in when the game was close at then end and looked like a different player with a competitive edge and made big plays to help get the W

Uh, I never suggested any of that. Good straw man though.

What makes no sense is saying he won them the game when he was -18.

[Pointgod]

Breaking news sports fans are irrational and are homers for their favourite teams. Ground breaking stuff pointgod!

True. Reminds me why I avoid coming to the team boards

You claimed that Masai overvalued Lowry at the deadline and also that he could have gotten Talen Horton Tucker from the Lakers if he insisted. Everyone is more than capable of irrational thought when they want to be

Wait you mean it’s irrational to believe that Masai could have gotten a deal similar to the ones reported by reputable sources at the deadline? Either

Irrational is believing Miami would give us a first or Tyler Herro in a sign and trade after the fact. I want to see this team do well, but I operate in the context of reality while most fans either think that the front office can do no wrong or every team should only operate in the Raptors best interest

[Odie29]

Great debut for both Suggs and Barnes.

9 rebounds 2 steals 3 blocks for a PG is pretty phenomenal. I couldn't help but laugh at Raps fans pointing out the 9/22 Suggs shot. That's a higher percentage than Fred shot the entire season last year and we all know how highly our fanbase thinks of him.

Barnes is gonna have his fingerprints over every game he plays in. Ultimate glue player with a lot of upside on the offensive end and will wear teams out with his length/speed and relentless energy. He looks strong already and with his handle could be a freight train on his drives in a couple years.

Both are good players and will be fun to watch them grow as time goes on.

[Raps in 4]

Suggs and Barnes are uncomparable too, considering the different play in styles.

I think its easy to guess that Jalen Suggs will most likely have more PPG than Barnes. But that shouldn't mean he's automatically better considering Barnes will lead in other Categories such as Rebounss/Blocks/Alterations. Also his ability to guard 1-5 will be more impactful.

Regardless, both players looks like they're going to be really good

You can compare any two players in terms of impact.

[T-d0t]

The Raps fans on the GB are a disgrace.

[ForeverTFC]

Suggs and Barnes are uncomparable too, considering the different play in styles.

I think its easy to guess that Jalen Suggs will most likely have more PPG than Barnes. But that shouldn't mean he's automatically better considering Barnes will lead in other Categories such as Rebounss/Blocks/Alterations. Also his ability to guard 1-5 will be more impactful.

Regardless, both players looks like they're going to be really good

It's like comparing Jrue and Giannnis.

I don’t get the Jrue comparisons because Suggs is aggressive offensively while Jrue is more passive.

The simple rationale for Barnes over Suggs is that Suggs’ path to a bonafide first option is narrow while Barnes has more possibilities. Suggs is just too short while not being a lethal shot maker which is what you need to be a superstar at the 1-2 position in this league. Barnes on the other hand has a wider set of outcomes including a lower floor and a higher ceiling.

Suggs will be a winning player and he will look good his entire career. We passed knowing this. The faster we give up the comparisons the better.

[DG88]

Pretty good debut from Suggs here in Summer League.

So far in terms of performance of the Top 5 in my opinion.

Green
Barnes/Suggs
Mobley
Cunningham

[anj]

Jalen suggs reminds me a lot of a young Deron Williams

Don't really see that at all. Deron came in as a true floor general, adept at the pick n roll. Suggs' halfcourt playmaking is still developing. And a lot of the shots D-Will generated came from using his big butt, lol. When he drove, he was awesome at getting guys on his hip and they just couldn't get around his girth to recover. He was decent at backing down smaller PGs in the post, too. Suggs is good, no doubt, but plays a pretty different game.

[720]

I was a huge Suggs guys before the draft and still think he’ll do great, just impossible not to with how polished he is.

With that being said anyone that watched the guy would know his performance was okay up until OT (even in OT it was nothing special, foul shots and a transition layup).

Right before OT he had a game saving block on Moody in transition though which was very impressive.

He didn’t seem transcendent like Green and also didn’t feel like he had the dynamic impact of Barnes. (Great offense though)

Sorta was going at his own pace and making winning plays. Which is what makes him a winner at every level of competition. He’s a franchise floor raiser more so than a ceiling raiser.

[WaltFrazier]

Suggs and Barnes are uncomparable too, considering the different play in styles.

I think its easy to guess that Jalen Suggs will most likely have more PPG than Barnes. But that shouldn't mean he's automatically better considering Barnes will lead in other Categories such as Rebounds/Blocks/Alterations. Also his ability to guard 1-5 will be more impactful.

Regardless, both players looks like they're going to be really good

It's like comparing Jrue and Giannnis.

Except Suggs becoming a Jrue is quite realistic, whereas Barnes best case is nowhere near Giannis. I posted yesterday, no one can be a Giannis unless they are 7 feet. Giannis himself wouldn't be nearly the same player if he had the exact same skillset in a 6'8 body.

[Mikistan]

Suggs and Barnes are uncomparable too, considering the different play in styles.

I think its easy to guess that Jalen Suggs will most likely have more PPG than Barnes. But that shouldn't mean he's automatically better considering Barnes will lead in other Categories such as Rebounds/Blocks/Alterations. Also his ability to guard 1-5 will be more impactful.

Regardless, both players looks like they're going to be really good

It's like comparing Jrue and Giannnis.

Except Suggs becoming a Jrue is quite realistic, whereas Barnes best case is nowhere near Giannis. I posted yesterday, no one can be a Giannis unless they are 7 feet. Giannis himself wouldn't be nearly the same player if he had the exact same skillset in a 6'8 body.

Suggs becoming jrue is not quite realistic. Stop making assumptions for one player and not being consistent

[720]

Suggs and Barnes are uncomparable too, considering the different play in styles.

I think its easy to guess that Jalen Suggs will most likely have more PPG than Barnes. But that shouldn't mean he's automatically better considering Barnes will lead in other Categories such as Rebounds/Blocks/Alterations. Also his ability to guard 1-5 will be more impactful.

Regardless, both players looks like they're going to be really good

It's like comparing Jrue and Giannnis.

Except Suggs becoming a Jrue is quite realistic, whereas Barnes best case is nowhere near Giannis. I posted yesterday, no one can be a Giannis unless they are 7 feet. Giannis himself wouldn't be nearly the same player if he had the exact same skillset in a 6'8 body.

He isn’t a Giannis for sure.

Barnes’s first game consisted of, a three point shot, a mid range shot, a post move shot, put back and a layup.

Giannis at 20 did not posses that kind of a variety on offense.

I think Barnes is like a Draymond and shorter AD hybrid.

[WaltFrazier]

It's like comparing Jrue and Giannnis.

Except Suggs becoming a Jrue is quite realistic, whereas Barnes best case is nowhere near Giannis. I posted yesterday, no one can be a Giannis unless they are 7 feet. Giannis himself wouldn't be nearly the same player if he had the exact same skillset in a 6'8 body.

Suggs becoming jrue is not quite realistic. Stop making assumptions for one player and not being consistent

Aren't we all just watching guys play and making assumptions based on what we think?

[mademan]

Suggs and Barnes are uncomparable too, considering the different play in styles.

I think its easy to guess that Jalen Suggs will most likely have more PPG than Barnes. But that shouldn't mean he's automatically better considering Barnes will lead in other Categories such as Rebounds/Blocks/Alterations. Also his ability to guard 1-5 will be more impactful.

Regardless, both players looks like they're going to be really good

It's like comparing Jrue and Giannnis.

Except Suggs becoming a Jrue is quite realistic, whereas Barnes best case is nowhere near Giannis. I posted yesterday, no one can be a Giannis unless they are 7 feet. Giannis himself wouldn't be nearly the same player if he had the exact same skillset in a 6'8 body.

neither Suggs nor Barnes becoming stars/superstars is realistic, lol. People always overrate rookies before they play a real game

[nizaam]

missed the game. if barnes is a non flashy but good scorer, rebounder, elite defender and plus playmaker could he play a scottie pippen type game? if he was even half as good thats a heck of a draft pick