WOJ: Julius Randle signed 4 years, $117 million extension

[thebuzzardman]

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another Leon Rose masterclass. tankers and complainers down bad.

I'm so glad the Knicks are going to have 48 minutes of play from the 5 where the only thing on offense the guys can do is dunk

[Marty McFly]

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another Leon Rose masterclass. tankers and complainers down bad.

Nerlen's leading us to a chip on a bargain contract.

[thebuzzardman]

Looking forward to 24 minutes of fumbled passes per game. Good times.

[thebuzzardman]

Noel can't even get his own topic, so he has be talked about in Randle's! Sad!

[Marty McFly]

I do like that these guys are coming off the books when Zion's up for his QO and with his family disliking the Pel's FO this early, who knows...

[thebuzzardman]

I do like that these guys are coming off the books when Zion's up for his QO and with his family disliking the Pel's FO this early, who knows...

Zion's knees will be in 12 pieces nature didn't create by that time, because he probably wants to be a Knick and Knicks can't have nice things or generational players.

[Tron Carter]

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another Leon Rose masterclass. tankers and complainers down bad.

It's good that they're unlikely bonuses, but it'll depend on what exactly they are

Because what that means is, it doesn't count against the cap this year (which is pretty irrelevant), but if he gets them, they become likely bonuses, meaning they will count against the cap going forward

So his cap hit this year will be 8.8 no matter what, which is still an overpay for a backup C, but if he hits his bonuses this year, next year's cap hit will be over 10 mil, which is a pretty big overpay for a backup C

It's tolerable cause we can get out of it within 2 years. Far from being a "masterclass" deal, especially when he's our 3rd best C being paid more than double what our best 2 are combined.

If he hits those unlikely bonuses he becomes one of the best bargain contracts in the nba. Leon Rose masterclass.

[DOT]

If he hits those unlikely bonuses he becomes one of the best bargain contracts in the nba. Leon Rose masterclass.

If he hits those bonuses, he'll be the 15th highest paid C in the league

How is that a bargain for a backup who's arguably not even our 2nd best C?

[Tron Carter]

If he hits those unlikely bonuses he becomes one of the best bargain contracts in the nba. Leon Rose masterclass.

If he hits those bonuses, he'll be the 15th highest paid C in the league

How is that a bargain for a backup who's arguably not even our 2nd best C?

aren’t his unlikely bonuses stuff like becoming all nba, all defense, all star etc? if he hits those why would he be a backup?

[BKlutch]

If he hits those unlikely bonuses he becomes one of the best bargain contracts in the nba. Leon Rose masterclass.

If he hits those bonuses, he'll be the 15th highest paid C in the league

How is that a bargain for a backup who's arguably not even our 2nd best C?

aren’t his unlikely bonuses stuff like becoming all nba, all defense, all star etc? if he hits those why would he be a backup?

Won''t happen. THey're called unlikely bonuses because the NBA realized he's, um, unlikely to ever get them.

[BugginOut]

If Noel makes a All-defensive team next season he’ll be worth whatever contract incentives we give him. I don’t even know why people are mad about this contract. It’s 10 million not 20 million.

[thebuzzardman]

If Noel makes a All-defensive team next season he’ll be worth whatever contract incentives we give him. I don’t even know why people are mad about this contract. It’s 10 million not 20 million.

I don't like it because he and Mitch are essentially the same guy on offense. Bad roster construction.

Trade one of them for a 5 who isn't offensively limited like they are, and I'll like the signing.

Actually, trade Mitch for that player, and I'll be double happy, because it'll make Shamms upset.

But that would be cancelled out by NoDope and all his annoying rim running comments.

Eh, whatever. Knicks are doomed anyway.

[DOT]

If he hits those bonuses, he'll be the 15th highest paid C in the league

How is that a bargain for a backup who's arguably not even our 2nd best C?

aren’t his unlikely bonuses stuff like becoming all nba, all defense, all star etc? if he hits those why would he be a backup?

Won''t happen. THey're called unlikely bonuses because the NBA realized he's, um, unlikely to ever get them.

Bonuses are either likely or unlikely

The difference is whether or not you've hit that mark in your career

And they can be anything, they don't have to be all nba, all star, all defense

So one of his unlikely bonuses could be play 80 games, which he's never done before, but if it were 75 games, it would be considered likely because he has hit that mark. Or it could be 76% on his free throws

That's why I said it'll depend on what the bonuses actually are, cause playing 80 games is more likely than him making an all star team, but both would be considered unlikely

But regardless of that fact, when you can find quality bench big men for the vet min, and Taj is arguably better than Noel, getting him even for 9 mil is hardly a "bargain"

[Tron Carter]

Noel is definitely better overall than Taj. He has his faults, but I feel like he's become weirdly underrated on here now. His rim protection is truly elite and very much needed for Thib's defensive scheme. Also isn't a liability at the free throw line. Yes, Mitch brings most of those elements and more, but he's also proven to be less reliable health wise than even Noel. Knicks may be hedging a little bit but I'm fine with it.

[BKlutch]

aren’t his unlikely bonuses stuff like becoming all nba, all defense, all star etc? if he hits those why would he be a backup?

Won''t happen. THey're called unlikely bonuses because the NBA realized he's, um, unlikely to ever get them.

Bonuses are either likely or unlikely

The difference is whether or not you've hit that mark in your career

And they can be anything, they don't have to be all nba, all star, all defense

So one of his unlikely bonuses could be play 80 games, which he's never done before, but if it were 75 games, it would be considered likely because he has hit that mark. Or it could be 76% on his free throws

That's why I said it'll depend on what the bonuses actually are, cause playing 80 games is more likely than him making an all star team, but both would be considered unlikely

But regardless of that fact, when you can find quality bench big men for the vet min, and Taj is arguably better than Noel, getting him even for 9 mil is hardly a "bargain"

It's unlikely that I'll ever love a guy with no hands who can't help the offense and all he can do on D is block shots at the rim.

I miss seeing Mitch run out to the 3 point line to block shots. I miss how he disrupted passes.

But just like how we all waited for Frank to become good, I'm waiting for Mitch to start taking jumps shots or developing some moves down low.

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[thebuzzardman]

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Bye Mitch! And several other youth and picks.

Let's do it!

[moocow007]

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another Leon Rose masterclass. tankers and complainers down bad.

It's good that they're unlikely bonuses, but it'll depend on what exactly they are

Because what that means is, it doesn't count against the cap this year (which is pretty irrelevant), but if he gets them, they become likely bonuses, meaning they will count against the cap going forward

So his cap hit this year will be 8.8 no matter what, which is still an overpay for a backup C, but if he hits his bonuses this year, next year's cap hit will be over 10 mil, which is a pretty big overpay for a backup C

It's tolerable cause we can get out of it within 2 years. Far from being a "masterclass" deal, especially when he's our 3rd best C being paid more than double what our best 2 are combined.

If it's "catch more passes cleanly than you fumble on the offensive end" then that's pretty much unattainable.

[ohboy109]

This was a very good thing. Very pleased.

Wanted not parts of giving randle a contract after next year in the 5 year $200 range which he is eligible for. This extension shows he wants to be here and while we do assume some risk that last year wasn't a total fluke. He will be very reasonable priced for the rest of the NBA.

Well done Knicks and well done randle

Yeah you can never knock a guy who took less. Shows me he's serious about winning I'm just not sure he's capable being the #1 guy. He sets a good example also in taking less.

Could he be a #2 or #3 on a contender? Sure, in specific situations.. playing alongside someone who is more of a true alpha that is able to get the ball out of hands and put him in a position of strength.. the low block. Randle's main issue is always be his ability to lose composure at the end of games or when he's under pressure. The obvious solution is find someone who isn't and let Randle focus on his #1 strength.

yup, its now on Leon and WWW to find this team a legit #1 option so Randle doesn't have to be it. But his contract extension doesn't hurt us at all in terms of doing so. It actually helps because he isn't getting paid like a max guy.

Randle is not even #2 on a contender he will be trade bait for a star no team will ever win **** with Randle as their top 3 player just reality

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Same poster ranting about Randle again. Not even active conversations, bumping random old thread this time.