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Post#1961 » by HornetJail » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:51 pm

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I mean I guess he makes more this way than as an assistant? Still wild to me.

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Post#1962 » by ThatBoyNick » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:53 pm

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I mean I guess he makes more this way than as an assistant? Still wild to me.


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Post#1963 » by BullyKing » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:53 pm

So Miami is going to devote two roster spots to guys who don't play?
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Post#1964 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:54 pm

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I mean I guess he makes more this way than as an assistant? Still wild to me.


This is still make good money.

But man that's 2 dead roster spots between he and Dipo.


And their moves leave them unable to fill the 15th spot until late in the season if they wish to avoid the tax. If they’re going to try and rest Tucker and Lowry at all here and there, they’re going to need productive guys on their 2 way deals.
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Post#1965 » by HornetJail » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:56 pm

BullyKing wrote:So Miami is going to devote two roster spots to guys who don't play?

that's nothing, the Hornets burned 4 roster spots between Carey, Richards, Riller, and Darling last season and didn't even use the final roster spot until acquiring Wanamaker at the deadline... and that's not even counting Bismack and both Martins who often times played like they were wearing the other teams' jersey

ok maybe we're not the best example
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Post#1966 » by Texas Chuck » Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:00 pm

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BullyKing wrote:So Miami is going to devote two roster spots to guys who don't play?

that's nothing, the Hornets burned 4 roster spots between Carey, Richards, Riller, and Darling last season and didn't even use the final roster spot until acquiring Wanamaker at the deadline... and that's not even counting Bismack and both Martins who often times played like they were wearing the other teams' jersey

ok maybe we're not the best example


Oh lots of teams have a bunch of bad players. I think Boston is really the worst example of a good team who wasted more than 1/3 of their roster on young guys who couldn't play because Ainge refused to admit his draft mistakes. But almost every team carries some dead weight.

But Miami thinks they are a contender and as Scoot points out they have some older guys they'd like not to wear out surviving a regular season. I know they believe in their player development and rightfully so but they are going to need all of Strus and Yurtseven and Vincent and Okpala to give them meaningful minutes and I think that's pretty optimistic.
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Post#1967 » by Bornstellar » Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:01 pm

DeRozan S&T appears to be official now. No updated details, seems trade will remain as originally reported. Wonder why it took almost a week to make it official
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Post#1968 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:04 pm

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BullyKing wrote:So Miami is going to devote two roster spots to guys who don't play?

that's nothing, the Hornets burned 4 roster spots between Carey, Richards, Riller, and Darling last season and didn't even use the final roster spot until acquiring Wanamaker at the deadline... and that's not even counting Bismack and both Martins who often times played like they were wearing the other teams' jersey

ok maybe we're not the best example


Oh lots of teams have a bunch of bad players. I think Boston is really the worst example of a good team who wasted more than 1/3 of their roster on young guys who couldn't play because Ainge refused to admit his draft mistakes. But almost every team carries some dead weight.

But Miami thinks they are a contender and as Scoot points out they have some older guys they'd like not to wear out surviving a regular season. I know they believe in their player development and rightfully so but they are going to need all of Strus and Yurtseven and Vincent and Okpala to give them meaningful minutes and I think that's pretty optimistic.


Yeah. I don’t doubt that any of those 4 could give them useful minutes on a given night, and maybe some of them are ready to contribute for most of a season. But it’s a big if, and it’s really elevating them to needed production level this year before they might be ready to do so. Add in that they have some real one sided play kind of guys in Tucker/Robinson, and the offense defense combo could be a bit iffy some nights. They’re really truly going to be counting on Dedmon/Markieff night in and out for the entire season. They’re top end is TOP NOTCH, but there are some iffy questions there in the middle on down, for sure.
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Post#1969 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:04 pm

Bornstellar wrote:DeRozan S&T appears to be official now. No updated details, seems trade will remain as originally reported. Wonder why it took almost a week to make it official


I think just order of operations kind of stuff. The league was still really trying to push through ALL the deals, and many teams had to execute their deals in exact, specific order, so there’s some delays there.
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Post#1970 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:12 pm

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Post#1971 » by Devilanche » Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:47 am

BullyKing wrote:So Miami is going to devote two roster spots to guys who don't play?

2 ways can play 50 games this time around so whoever Miami is going use it on will get quite lucky . Do well and Riley will pay them on their next contract
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Post#1972 » by Devilanche » Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:48 am

Scoot McGroot wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
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I mean I guess he makes more this way than as an assistant? Still wild to me.


This is still make good money.

But man that's 2 dead roster spots between he and Dipo.


And their moves leave them unable to fill the 15th spot until late in the season if they wish to avoid the tax. If they’re going to try and rest Tucker and Lowry at all here and there, they’re going to need productive guys on their 2 way deals.

Miami always find productive guys on their 2 ways . Heck if they sign me up , I probably got basketball skills that I didn’t even knew I had, just need some training regime to bring it out .
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Post#1973 » by eminence » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:36 am

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Post#1974 » by Resistance » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:21 am

Not on a Two - Way contract, but Yurtseven is on a bargain contract and can produce.

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Post#1975 » by Godaddycurse » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:37 am

Resistance wrote:Not on a Two - Way contract, but Yurtseven is on a bargain contract and can produce.

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wish we got him too in lowry S&T :(
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Post#1976 » by Resistance » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:53 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
Resistance wrote:Not on a Two - Way contract, but Yurtseven is on a bargain contract and can produce.

Read on Twitter


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wish we got him too in lowry S&T :(



He probably was available between when OKC cut him in December and Miami signing him in May.

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Post#1977 » by jayu70 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:52 pm

The Zach Collins contract was a surprise by SAS. The details are out which makes it 'not as bad':

Zach Collins agreed to a three-year, $22 million deal with the San Antonio Spurs when free agency opened, but less than half of the contract is guaranteed.
Collins will receive a full guarantee of $7 million in Year 1 with the contract increasing to $7.35 million in Year 2 with a 50 percent guarantee.
Collins has no money guaranteed for Year 3 in 23-24 when he's scheduled to earn $7.7 million.
In total, Collins will have $10.675 million guaranteed by San Antonio.
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Post#1978 » by Devilanche » Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:02 pm

jayu70 wrote:The Zach Collins contract was a surprise by SAS. The details are out which makes it 'not as bad':

Zach Collins agreed to a three-year, $22 million deal with the San Antonio Spurs when free agency opened, but less than half of the contract is guaranteed.
Collins will receive a full guarantee of $7 million in Year 1 with the contract increasing to $7.35 million in Year 2 with a 50 percent guarantee.
Collins has no money guaranteed for Year 3 in 23-24 when he's scheduled to earn $7.7 million.
In total, Collins will have $10.675 million guaranteed by San Antonio.


Honestly that’s a good contract . Wouldn’t mind if OKC had signed something like that for him.

1 season to show he’s healthy , another season to perform , if not then bye bye after 2 season.
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