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Re: General Blue Jays Thread, 2020 

Post#1402 » by c3luong » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:39 am

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Then I pointed out that he has been at number 3 for a lot more games.


Ok, sorry I thought you implied in your post that the team played better with him batting 3rd. But if not and you agree the team has been performing better on offense with him batting second then we're gucci.


I just noticed how happy they were with Semian Bichette then Vlad batting order.Bichette,and Vlad are really tight,and love watching each other bat,and then talking about it in the dugout after.They each watched each other a lot from the on deck circle,and I do think they played better in that lineup,and the others in the top 6 could have all went to the All star Game because of it.


Yeah, possible. Hopefully they've discussed this together and everyone's batting at a position they are comfortable with.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread, 2020 

Post#1403 » by linery88 » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:40 am

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Then I pointed out that he has been at number 3 for a lot more games.


Ok, sorry I thought you implied in your post that the team played better with him batting 3rd. But if not and you agree the team has been performing better on offense with him batting second then we're gucci.


I just noticed how happy they were with Semian Bichette then Vlad batting order.Bichette,and Vlad are really tight,and love watching each other bat,and then talking about it in the dugout after.They each watched each other a lot from the on deck circle,and I do think they hit better overall in that lineup,and the others in the top 6 could have all went to the All star Game because of it.We already have visual evidence of this.I,ve never seen a guy moved in the batting order when he was already an MVP ,Triple crown threat - re
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread, 2020 

Post#1404 » by linery88 » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:41 am

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Ok, sorry I thought you implied in your post that the team played better with him batting 3rd. But if not and you agree the team has been performing better on offense with him batting second then we're gucci.


I just noticed how happy they were with Semian Bichette then Vlad batting order.Bichette,and Vlad are really tight,and love watching each other bat,and then talking about it in the dugout after.They each watched each other a lot from the on deck circle,and I do think they hit better overall in that lineup,and the others in the top 6 could have all went to the All star Game because of it.We already have visual evidence of this.I,ve never seen a guy moved in the batting order when he was already an MVP ,Triple crown threat.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread, 2020 

Post#1405 » by linery88 » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:43 am

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I just noticed how happy they were with Semian Bichette then Vlad batting order.Bichette,and Vlad are really tight,and love watching each other bat,and then talking about it in the dugout after.They each watched each other a lot from the on deck circle,and I do think they hit better overall in that lineup,and the others in the top 6 could have all went to the All star Game because of it.We already have visual evidence of this working.Now we are going to gamble,and automatically assume putting him #2 will work.I hope so,but I,ve never seen a guy moved in the batting order when he was already an MVP ,Triple crown threat.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread, 2020 

Post#1406 » by Schad » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:43 am

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Well from what I noticed during games where vlad batted 3rd,he seemed more comfortable,more at ease..looser,and the opponents were the ones who were stressed out,and the result was vlad leading in triple crown numbers,and this offense scoring the amount of runs one would expect from this lineup,on a consistent basis.


The odds that Vlad is seriously stressed about hitting 2nd and is hitting poorly as a result, are very low. The odds that he's just in a short slump, which began when he was hitting 3rd, are very high.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread, 2020 

Post#1407 » by linery88 » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:52 am

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Well from what I noticed during games where vlad batted 3rd,he seemed more comfortable,more at ease..looser,and the opponents were the ones who were stressed out,and the result was vlad leading in triple crown numbers,and this offense scoring the amount of runs one would expect from this lineup,on a consistent basis.


The odds that Vlad is seriously stressed about hitting 2nd and is hitting poorly as a result, are very low. The odds that he's just in a short slump, which began when he was hitting 3rd, are very high.


Only vlad,and Montoya know.
I,m not saying he is stressed out.To me doesnt look the same as he did at 3.The other teams were a mess during those 8-10 run drubbings we handed them.
I also wonder why montoya did this move now.Could it be because he doesn,t have much confidence in his bullpen or starting pitching,and hopes vlad can get crushing or is it because he does,and he figures by putting vlad 2 they will start crushing it,and the bullpen will crush it as well.IMO This teams wins with its offence first right now.Their bullpen blew a lot of those big leads before.Vlad wont say a word if he is stressed because its only his 2nd year,just like biggio never said a word when he was hurt,and still played, then was taken out for performing badly due to being hurt in the first place.Nothing against Biggio.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread, 2020 

Post#1408 » by c3luong » Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:03 am

We moved Vlad probably so that Springer could be moved into the leadoff spot, and that's just how it worked out to keep everyone happy.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread, 2020 

Post#1409 » by The_Hater » Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:00 pm

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Well from what I noticed during games where vlad batted 3rd,he seemed more comfortable,more at ease..looser,and the opponents were the ones who were stressed out,and the result was vlad leading in triple crown numbers,and this offense scoring the amount of runs one would expect from this lineup,on a consistent basis.


The odds that Vlad is seriously stressed about hitting 2nd and is hitting poorly as a result, are very low. The odds that he's just in a short slump, which began when he was hitting 3rd, are very high.


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Re: General Blue Jays Thread, 2020 

Post#1410 » by linery88 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:32 am

The_Hater wrote:
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Well from what I noticed during games where vlad batted 3rd,he seemed more comfortable,more at ease..looser,and the opponents were the ones who were stressed out,and the result was vlad leading in triple crown numbers,and this offense scoring the amount of runs one would expect from this lineup,on a consistent basis.


The odds that Vlad is seriously stressed about hitting 2nd and is hitting poorly as a result, are very low. The odds that he's just in a short slump, which began when he was hitting 3rd, are very high.


Enough with this common sense, call in the witch doctors!


Maybe Montoya called them,and they told him to put vlad back or else.
Just found out about the switch.Cant wait to see this new lineup when they get back to the Dome.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread, 2020 

Post#1411 » by The_Hater » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:39 am

linery88 wrote:
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The odds that Vlad is seriously stressed about hitting 2nd and is hitting poorly as a result, are very low. The odds that he's just in a short slump, which began when he was hitting 3rd, are very high.


Enough with this common sense, call in the witch doctors!


Maybe Montoya called them,and they told him to put vlad back or else.
Just found out about the switch.Cant wait to see this new lineup when they get back to the Dome.


You do remember that your initial solution was to bat him 4th, not 3rd? Would like like me to link that post for you as a reminder? And after you moved the goalposts of that argument you’re now claiming some sort of victory that he’s batting 3rd for 1 game? You’re seem quite proud that you and Charlie Montoya are (almost) on the same page.

Vlade is now 2-18 in his last 18 AB’s in the 3rd spot. Your new expert solution Charlie?
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread, 2020 

Post#1412 » by linery88 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:44 am

The_Hater wrote:
linery88 wrote:
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Enough with this common sense, call in the witch doctors!


Maybe Montoya called them,and they told him to put vlad back or else.
Just found out about the switch.Cant wait to see this new lineup when they get back to the Dome.


You do remember that your initial solution was to bat him 4th, not 3rd? Would like like me to link that post for you as a reminder? And after to move the goalposts of that argument you’re now claiming some sort of victory that he’s batting 3rd for 1 game? Without success?

Vlade is now 2-18 in his last 18 AB’s in the 3rd spot. Your new expert solution Charlie?


I said 3rd or 4th.
Baseball is not an instant graitification game.
3rd is where he led the league in HR,s B.A. ,and RBI,s for a stretch this year,and the team was winning,and blowing other teams out.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread, 2020 

Post#1413 » by The_Hater » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:50 am

linery88 wrote:
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Maybe Montoya called them,and they told him to put vlad back or else.
Just found out about the switch.Cant wait to see this new lineup when they get back to the Dome.


You do remember that your initial solution was to bat him 4th, not 3rd? Would like like me to link that post for you as a reminder? And after to move the goalposts of that argument you’re now claiming some sort of victory that he’s batting 3rd for 1 game? Without success?

Vlade is now 2-18 in his last 18 AB’s in the 3rd spot. Your new expert solution Charlie?


I said 3rd or 4th.
Baseball is not an instant graitification game.
3rd is where he led the league in HR,s B.A. ,and RBI,s for a stretch this year,and the team was winning,and blowing other teams out.


linery88 wrote:My timing is off but...
Whos idea was it to change to this lineup?
What is vladdy doing batting 2nd?
It should be....
1.Springer
2.Semian
3.Bichette
4.Vladdy
5.Teoscar
6.Grichuk
7.Guriel
8.Dickerson,Espanal etc..whoever
9.Mcguire...whoever


There’s your original post on the subject. Where does it say a thing about batting him 3rd?

Lying about something that can be so easily disproven does say something about you however.

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Re: General Blue Jays Thread, 2020 

Post#1414 » by Parataxis » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:17 am

linery88 wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
linery88 wrote:
Maybe Montoya called them,and they told him to put vlad back or else.
Just found out about the switch.Cant wait to see this new lineup when they get back to the Dome.


You do remember that your initial solution was to bat him 4th, not 3rd? Would like like me to link that post for you as a reminder? And after to move the goalposts of that argument you’re now claiming some sort of victory that he’s batting 3rd for 1 game? Without success?

Vlade is now 2-18 in his last 18 AB’s in the 3rd spot. Your new expert solution Charlie?


I said 3rd or 4th.
Baseball is not an instant graitification game.
3rd is where he led the league in HR,s B.A. ,and RBI,s for a stretch this year,and the team was winning,and blowing other teams out.


Our winning percentage has gone up when Vlade bats 2nd compared to 3rd. (Not that that's the reason for it, but you can't talk about the team winning when it was doing less of it)
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread, 2020 

Post#1415 » by linery88 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:28 am

Parataxis wrote:
linery88 wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
You do remember that your initial solution was to bat him 4th, not 3rd? Would like like me to link that post for you as a reminder? And after to move the goalposts of that argument you’re now claiming some sort of victory that he’s batting 3rd for 1 game? Without success?

Vlade is now 2-18 in his last 18 AB’s in the 3rd spot. Your new expert solution Charlie?


I said 3rd or 4th.
Baseball is not an instant graitification game.
3rd is where he led the league in HR,s B.A. ,and RBI,s for a stretch this year,and the team was winning,and blowing other teams out.


Our winning percentage has gone up when Vlade bats 2nd compared to 3rd. (Not that that's the reason for it, but you can't talk about the team winning when it was doing less of it)


The 9-2 homestand.We were winning the other way as well,but we would lose games due to our bullpen.Now it should work out even better with a better bullpen.The percentages are not accurate because the amount of games isnt the same..but whatever.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread, 2020 

Post#1416 » by Schad » Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:19 am

linery88 wrote:The 9-2 homestand.We were winning the other way as well,but we would lose games due to our bullpen.Now it should work out even better with a better bullpen.The percentages are not accurate because the amount of games isnt the same..but whatever.


So what you're saying is that it's a small sample that can be attributed to factors beyond where Vlad bats in the lineup? A novel concept!
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread, 2020 

Post#1418 » by linery88 » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:39 am

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linery88 wrote:The 9-2 homestand.We were winning the other way as well,but we would lose games due to our bullpen.Now it should work out even better with a better bullpen.The percentages are not accurate because the amount of games isnt the same..but whatever.


So what you're saying is that it's a small sample that can be attributed to factors beyond where Vlad bats in the lineup? A novel concept!


No.I,m saying there is more than one way to win.Nice to see us win because of our pitching for a change.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread, 2020 

Post#1419 » by linery88 » Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:15 am

linery88 wrote:
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linery88 wrote:The 9-2 homestand.We were winning the other way as well,but we would lose games due to our bullpen.Now it should work out even better with a better bullpen.The percentages are not accurate because the amount of games isnt the same..but whatever.


So what you're saying is that it's a small sample that can be attributed to factors beyond where Vlad bats in the lineup? A novel concept!


Yeah,something like that.
The number of games speak for themselves.
I,d rather have waited to see the comparison made after the same amount of games.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread, 2020 

Post#1420 » by linery88 » Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:27 am

linery88 wrote:
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So what you're saying is that it's a small sample that can be attributed to factors beyond where Vlad bats in the lineup? A novel concept!


In part yes.
I just think its an unfair comparison due to the different amount of games.

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