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Re: Summer League Thread Part 4: TOR 92 - HOU 76. Achiuwa 19pts/Barnes 8pts/5blks 

Post#1601 » by RapsFanInOhio » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:40 am

OakleyDokely wrote:Precious has been pretty great. He's developing some nice chemistry with Flynn, especially on the PnR. Could be a nice duo off the bench.

Rexdale needs to work on his 3 ball, but his handles and playmaking at his size are so intriguing. He makes passes you dont think are possible and he's very good in transition. He's also getting into the lane off the dribble and finishing inside. Definitely better than I was expecting.

As I'm watching the game, Barnes is being overshadowed by a bunch of guys and then I look at the boxscore and he finished with 8 points, 5 blocks, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 steal, +19 in 23 minutes. I think you will see a lot of those statlines in his rookie year.

Are we calling him Rexdale?
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Post#1602 » by MavCarter » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:41 am

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Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:You can definitely see the Draymond Green components to Barnes' game though, he probably has more potential offensively as a scorer


Idk Green in his prime was a really good finisher at the rim and could at least shoot respectable from 3...

Green also averaged 15PPG one season....If im being srs honest i think Barnes having more potential than Green on offense comes from where exactly? He looks very very Raw and his offense is really not NBA Ready....

If Barnes ever reaches 15PPG a season at this point i would take it....

I see Barnes being a 12PPG 8.5 Reb 4 Assists, 1 steal a game type of player ...He will never crack 20PPG I see Barnes best season being identical to Greens tbh


Yeah green in his prime. At scotties age green was avging 3pts in college and wasnt good at either of those things
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Post#1603 » by mademan » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:41 am

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Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:You can definitely see the Draymond Green components to Barnes' game though, he probably has more potential offensively as a scorer


Idk Green in his prime was a really good finisher at the rim and could at least shoot respectable from 3...

Green also averaged 15PPG one season....If im being srs honest i think Barnes having more potential than Green on offense comes from where exactly? He looks very very Raw and his offense is really not NBA Ready....

If Barnes ever reaches 15PPG a season at this point i would take it....

I see Barnes being a 12PPG 8.5 Reb 4 Assists, 1 steal a game type of player ...He will never crack 20PPG I see Barnes best season being identical to Greens tbh


Bro i dont know what Green you were watching. Dude's never been a good finisher. He might have some decent numbers as he gets a lot of open ones off of Curry's gravity, but he never goes up against the defense and bricks it when he does.

And OG scored 16ppg this year just being able to shoot well, and you think Barnes maxes out at 12ppg? Im not even sure how you can say he never cracks 20ppg. If he develops his shot, he can get to 20ppg just being able to pick up opportunistic points and hitting open 3's.
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Post#1605 » by Danny1616 » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:42 am

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As horrific as some of the takes posters post here.

Fair play

The same posters who ran to his defence after the first game are now saying Summer League means nothing.

I am not even looking at the box score, it is the way he plays. That is what you look to translate.

He cannot score, he isn't a primary ball handler, he cannot shoot, so what will he be on O to start? He can't be used off ball as a shooter, his finishing ability is worse than I thought (that layup was high school level he missed) so him in the PnR or being used as a cutter might not even work.

We drafted a defensive minded player who has huge holes in his offensive game. It's the skills, not the box score performance.


Did anybody say he’s coming in as a great scorer?

He’s raw with great intangibles, defense, handles and vision for his size and length.

Maybe judge him in 2-3 years.
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Post#1606 » by OakleyDokely » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:42 am

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OakleyDokely wrote:Precious has been pretty great. He's developing some nice chemistry with Flynn, especially on the PnR. Could be a nice duo off the bench.

Rexdale needs to work on his 3 ball, but his handles and playmaking at his size are so intriguing. He makes passes you dont think are possible and he's very good in transition. He's also getting into the lane off the dribble and finishing inside. Definitely better than I was expecting.

As I'm watching the game, Barnes is being overshadowed by a bunch of guys and then I look at the boxscore and he finished with 8 points, 5 blocks, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 steal, +19 in 23 minutes. I think you will see a lot of those statlines in his rookie year.

Are we calling him Rexdale?


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Post#1607 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:44 am

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OakleyDokely wrote:Precious has been pretty great. He's developing some nice chemistry with Flynn, especially on the PnR. Could be a nice duo off the bench.

Rexdale needs to work on his 3 ball, but his handles and playmaking at his size are so intriguing. He makes passes you dont think are possible and he's very good in transition. He's also getting into the lane off the dribble and finishing inside. Definitely better than I was expecting.

As I'm watching the game, Barnes is being overshadowed by a bunch of guys and then I look at the boxscore and he finished with 8 points, 5 blocks, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 steal, +19 in 23 minutes. I think you will see a lot of those statlines in his rookie year.

Are we calling him Rexdale?


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Post#1608 » by Reeko » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:45 am

Maybe I'm completely off base, I'm still watching the game because I recorded it, but it seems like Mutombo is giving more burn to guys who are going to play on the 905 roster. I get that Barnes bricked his only two shots, but pulling him for the rest of the quarter is a bit ridiculous.
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Post#1609 » by HiJiNX » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:45 am

If y’all watch Barnes and don’t see offensive potential then I don’t know what to tell you. He is able to create an advantage every time he attempts to drive. Does he know what to do with that advantage yet? Not at all. But like Sam Mitchell was saying during the game, most guys in the league don’t have the attributes to move the defence. I don’t worry about Barnes’ offensive ability, I worry about his passivity. He seems content to fade into the background at times which is challenging to see when he’s able to make good things happen almost every time he puts the ball on the floor from the perimeter.
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Post#1610 » by StopitLeo » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:49 am

RapsFanInOhio wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:Precious has been pretty great. He's developing some nice chemistry with Flynn, especially on the PnR. Could be a nice duo off the bench.

Rexdale needs to work on his 3 ball, but his handles and playmaking at his size are so intriguing. He makes passes you dont think are possible and he's very good in transition. He's also getting into the lane off the dribble and finishing inside. Definitely better than I was expecting.

As I'm watching the game, Barnes is being overshadowed by a bunch of guys and then I look at the boxscore and he finished with 8 points, 5 blocks, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 steal, +19 in 23 minutes. I think you will see a lot of those statlines in his rookie year.

Are we calling him Rexdale?


It’s an abbreviated form of the hilarious Rexdale Bruno someone called him.

As far as Barnes, he hasn’t really been asked to play the role of primary scorer probably since early high-school. It’s going to take some time for him to learn where and how to assert himself on offence.
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Post#1611 » by LJKO » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:49 am

HumbleRen wrote:Wish we could give Precious Barnes feel of the game and give some of Precious’s explosiveness to Barnes :lol:

Aren't they going to be on the main roaster? It's like saying they aren't going to learn off each other and get better? Unlike most people I ain't worried about Barnes offensive game because we have players like Achuiwa for him to learn off from and Pascal teaching him the drive and spin(Thou he doesn't do that himself barely anymore). But the real key players to unlock Barnes full potential isn't Pascal and Achuiwa but FVV and Dragic(Depending if he decide to work with us and not be a little bum about us not being his prefer destination). Quote me on this and come back in a couple years
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Post#1612 » by 720 » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:50 am

Reeko wrote:Maybe I'm completely off base, I'm still watching the game because I recorded it, but it seems like Mutombo is giving more burn to guys who are going to play on the 905 roster. I get that Barnes bricked his only two shots, but pulling him for the rest of the quarter is a bit ridiculous.

Yes, it was annoying. He's been doing that for two games in a row. Barnes barely got the ball all game as well.
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Post#1613 » by pingpongrac » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:50 am

So far Barnes has put up 13 PTS/7.3 REB/3 AST/1 STL/2 BLK in 26 MPG on fairly limited usage and clearly looks a bit hobbled the last 1.5 games. His inside scoring has been a bit off and he's just 2/8 on 3FGA, but he is 15/20 from the FT line. It's easy to see what the FO sees in him. His offensive game still needs a lot of work, but his defensive impact is so incredibly high and he has the tools to be a very impactful offensive player in a few years too. He just needs to continue to work on his shooting and be a bit more aggressive.
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Post#1614 » by Reeko » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:51 am

I think Wainright and maybe Champagnie work their way into the rotation at some point during the season.
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Post#1615 » by Clutch0z24 » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:51 am

mademan wrote:
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Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:You can definitely see the Draymond Green components to Barnes' game though, he probably has more potential offensively as a scorer


Idk Green in his prime was a really good finisher at the rim and could at least shoot respectable from 3...

Green also averaged 15PPG one season....If im being srs honest i think Barnes having more potential than Green on offense comes from where exactly? He looks very very Raw and his offense is really not NBA Ready....

If Barnes ever reaches 15PPG a season at this point i would take it....

I see Barnes being a 12PPG 8.5 Reb 4 Assists, 1 steal a game type of player ...He will never crack 20PPG I see Barnes best season being identical to Greens tbh


Bro i dont know what Green you were watching. Dude's never been a good finisher. He might have some decent numbers as he gets a lot of open ones off of Curry's gravity, but he never goes up against the defense and bricks it when he does.

And OG scored 16ppg this year just being able to shoot well, and you think Barnes maxes out at 12ppg? Im not even sure how you can say he never cracks 20ppg. If he develops his shot, he can get to 20ppg just being able to pick up opportunistic points and hitting open 3's.


I wish i had your Optimism ....Lol its not easy to score 20PPG in the NBA Man ....Infact there are very select few that ever do in their NBA Careers...There are G-leaguers who have more offensive bag than Barnes does atm does that mean they can come in and Score 20 PPG in the NBA? No...So what makes you think a raw af player like Barnes will easy? Barns is as raw as it gets on the offensive end...I will take a 12PPG-15PPG for Barnes with how bad his offense has looked...

People have way too high expectations and will be really disappointed
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Post#1616 » by RaptorNews » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:52 am

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RaptorNews wrote:Barnes torn ACL and MCL

Wtf. Time-out for you and the clown mod who and 1 this


It was obviously a minor bump I was making fun of the sky is falling posters not reporting the news
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Post#1617 » by Bruin » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:53 am

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Duffman100 wrote:Considering it was a bad game. 5 blocks, 3 assists and a low usage. It wasn't AS bad as people are making it out to be.


People want an alpha from the 4th pick, not a guy who likes to blend in. His game currently screams role player but that doesn't mean he can't take it to the next level. You watch Green/Suggs/Cade, you cant say that about them even when they're struggling.

All 3 of those guys were drafted with the expectation to have them be given the keys to the offense from day 1. Barnes isn’t being handed the keys right now so obviously those guys will be an alpha right now

Pretty sure Barnes is gonna be developed with patience. Will help him pan out that way too as he gets to learn from other guys who had the same experience
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Post#1618 » by canz55 » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:55 am

I still can't believe Barnes got 5 blocks. That's crazy considering he rode the bench a lot this game.

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Post#1619 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:55 am

We didn't have access to a "Day one" guy at 4.
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Post#1620 » by mademan » Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:56 am

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mademan wrote:
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Idk Green in his prime was a really good finisher at the rim and could at least shoot respectable from 3...

Green also averaged 15PPG one season....If im being srs honest i think Barnes having more potential than Green on offense comes from where exactly? He looks very very Raw and his offense is really not NBA Ready....

If Barnes ever reaches 15PPG a season at this point i would take it....

I see Barnes being a 12PPG 8.5 Reb 4 Assists, 1 steal a game type of player ...He will never crack 20PPG I see Barnes best season being identical to Greens tbh


Bro i dont know what Green you were watching. Dude's never been a good finisher. He might have some decent numbers as he gets a lot of open ones off of Curry's gravity, but he never goes up against the defense and bricks it when he does.

And OG scored 16ppg this year just being able to shoot well, and you think Barnes maxes out at 12ppg? Im not even sure how you can say he never cracks 20ppg. If he develops his shot, he can get to 20ppg just being able to pick up opportunistic points and hitting open 3's.


I wish i had your Optimism ....Lol its not easy to score 20PPG in the NBA Man ....Infact there are very select few that ever do in their NBA Careers...There are G-leaguers who have more offensive bag than Barnes does atm does that mean they can come in and Score 20 PPG in the NBA? No...So what makes you think a raw af player like Barnes will easy? Barns is as raw as it gets on the offensive end...I will take a 12PPG-15PPG for Barnes with how bad his offense has looked...

People have way too high expectations and will be really disappointed


You dont need much in the bag tho to be a big scorer. If youre playing minutes and youre touching the ball enough, you'll get points, especially if you work on your shot. Like i said, OG scored 16ppg while almost never creating for himself. Barnes jumpshot needs to go the way of OG's tho

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