Would you rather have Kyle Lowry, Lonzo Ball, or Kemba Walker under their current contract?

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Would you rather have Kyle Lowry, Lonzo Ball, or Kemba Walker under their current contract?

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Post#41 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:10 pm

I would bet if you asked who you'd rather have for the next three years at the same salary between Lowry and lonzo, many would say lonzo...mostly because Lowry will be old at the end of it, and perhaps the gap isn't too great.
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Post#42 » by Parataxis » Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:22 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:How is this anyone but Kyle Lowry?



I can kinda-sorta see an argument for Ball (younger, still improving, may eventually outplay his contract if he gets better), but yeah, for most teams, the answer is Lowry easily.

Not only does he give you leadership, defence, and playmaking, but he has a history of making his teammates better.
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Post#43 » by NO-KG-AI » Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:37 pm

Kyle Lowry is substantially better than both. Lonzo might never be good in the halfcourt.
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Post#44 » by Rockazoids » Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:42 pm

For those that don't know here is the info

Lonzo Ball(age23)/ $18,604,651/ $19,534,884/ $20,465,117 / $21,395,348 (last year player option)

Kyle Lowry(age35)$26,984,128/ $28,333,334/ $29,682,540

Kemba Walker(age31)$8,729,020/ $9,165,471
For the Knicks they also got Rose for about the same cap.
Derrick Rose(age32)$13,271,605/ $14,333,333/ $15,395,062(last year club option)As of now it's a estimate
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Post#45 » by _qubik » Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:46 pm

Lowry is the best of the three right now, if Lonzo keeps growing on his last season he might be the most valuable as soon as next year, because Lowry is good, but he is old and wont be at the same level for ever.

Kemba never was and never will be a good and impactfull player, and he has a concern injury history
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Post#46 » by BostonCouchGM » Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:24 am

SharpyShuffle wrote:Ball is barely even a PG. Too many people who don't actually watch him play and just know what he was 'supposed' to be coming into the league. Can't run a half court offence, comparing him with Lowry is complete apples and oranges


awful and embarrassing take. I can't wait for him to finally shut up these people and this putrid narrative
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Post#47 » by RoyceDa59 » Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:29 am

To win now? Kyle by far.

As an asset to build around? Ball.

Kemba is a distant 3rd. Don’t like undersized guards who can defend.
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Post#48 » by Pennebaker » Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:43 am

Kyle Lowry. Far and away the best player of the three and it's not even close.
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Post#49 » by Jedi32 » Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:49 am

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Schroeder at 1yr /6 looks pretty nice compared to some of these years and dollar amounts.

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Post#50 » by TheProfessor » Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:51 am

Kemba at 8mil, not close. Even if he's just an upper tier starter (think bridges, OG-esque, smart esque impact), then he is giving you 12-15m in surplus value. For Lowry, I think he lives up to his contract, and can provide 30m in value but I don't think you get any surplus. Lonzo ball has barely proven to be a starter let alone an good one. Let's say for the sake of argument, he is a good start and lives up to is contract, He would have to be a star-esque player to give you the same value as Kemba. I don't think thats Ball.
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Post#51 » by Raps in 4 » Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:56 am

Ball just due to his age and health. Lowry is 35. Kemba is made of glass.
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Post#52 » by LakersLegacy » Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:07 am

SharpyShuffle wrote:Ball is barely even a PG. Too many people who don't actually watch him play and just know what he was 'supposed' to be coming into the league. Can't run a half court offence, comparing him with Lowry is complete apples and oranges


Ball is special. JKidd/Rondo special. He sees the floor and passed are just phenomenal. Defensively his size he can defend a wings and points. Offense he’s best at the break, rebounding and making the break and making good passes. Zo has had to play the game like he walks on egg shells. Just unleash him in Chi. He’s still going to get better. He could have similar career trajectory as Rondo. Great unique feel for the game. His shot was gut wrenching pain in the gut. Because the mechanics. But he is improving. Less diagonal shooting is paying off. Slightly more arch is needed. A season with the Warriors or being surrounded by great shooters that would mentor Zo some could make Zo into a future all-star. That’s his glaring weakness. But it’s not really that glaring anymore
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Post#53 » by Bruin » Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:16 am

Depends on the team

For a team with goals of contending right now, Lowry easily

For a team still looking to build and just reach the playoffs and building for the future without serious contention expectations as of now, Ball

Kemba falls under neither category
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Post#54 » by topspeed1 » Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:28 am

Lonzo is a younger version of Rubio with significantly weaker playmaking skills.

His statline doesn't look half bad: 15.2 PER, 55% TS%, 38% 3 PT FG% the past two seasons, positive OBPM, DBPM and VORP, but this is one case where the stat line hides one huge flaw: he lacks the aggression and competitive fire to move to the next level, which would be as an all star player.

He shies away from contact at the rim, and this limits his ability to capitalize on a bread and butter PG play which is to drive, draw defenders and kick out to an open shooter.

He ain't a bust, but he's not the type of player you would've expected as a #2 overall pick.
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Post#55 » by BFRESH44 » Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:34 am

Kemba can’t guard a chair. Brad Stevens couldn’t wait to get rid of him. And the Pelicans, who are desperate for a lead guard, wanted an opportunity to give old Lowry 90 million before they gave Lonzo one penny. There’s your answer.
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Post#56 » by step » Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:16 am

Rockazoids wrote:For those that don't know here is the info

Lonzo Ball(age23)/ $18,604,651/ $19,534,884/ $20,465,117 / $21,395,348 (last year player option)

Kyle Lowry(age35)$26,984,128/ $28,333,334/ $29,682,540

Kemba Walker(age31)$8,729,020/ $9,165,471
For the Knicks they also got Rose for about the same cap.
Derrick Rose(age32)$13,271,605/ $14,333,333/ $15,395,062(last year club option)As of now it's a estimate

Failed to account for Kemba's other contract FYI. Kemba isn't just on 8.7M.
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Post#57 » by Rockazoids » Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:38 am

step wrote:
Rockazoids wrote:For those that don't know here is the info

Lonzo Ball(age23)/ $18,604,651/ $19,534,884/ $20,465,117 / $21,395,348 (last year player option)

Kyle Lowry(age35)$26,984,128/ $28,333,334/ $29,682,540

Kemba Walker(age31)$8,729,020/ $9,165,471
For the Knicks they also got Rose for about the same cap.
Derrick Rose(age32)$13,271,605/ $14,333,333/ $15,395,062(last year club option)As of now it's a estimate

Failed to account for Kemba's other contract FYI. Kemba isn't just on 8.7M.

That's all the Knicks are paying him.
BFRESH44 wrote:Kemba can’t guard a chair. Brad Stevens couldn’t wait to get rid of him. And the Pelicans, who are desperate for a lead guard, wanted an opportunity to give old Lowry 90 million before they gave Lonzo one penny. There’s your answer.

You got that right, so the Knicks will try to hide him with their good defense.
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Post#58 » by NO-KG-AI » Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:42 am

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SharpyShuffle wrote:Ball is barely even a PG. Too many people who don't actually watch him play and just know what he was 'supposed' to be coming into the league. Can't run a half court offence, comparing him with Lowry is complete apples and oranges


awful and embarrassing take. I can't wait for him to finally shut up these people and this putrid narrative

That’s not a narrative. He’s bad in the half court. If he shuts people up it’s because he starts doing thing well that he hasn’t done so far, like scoring inside the 3, finishing, running a pick and roll, being able to create off drives, and drawing contact and getting to the line.
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Post#59 » by FrodoFraggins » Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:13 am

I'm high on Ball and expect him to continue improving. He's also valuable on both ends. Lowry is the ultimate short term plan and hopefully he does well. Relying on gimpy Kemba is a huge mistake even at his contract.
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Post#60 » by EArl » Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:17 am

ball is definitely the safe bet here. Reasonable salary, young and room to improve. Lowry has 1 to 2 good years left. Kembas contract isn't too bad either, but less room to grow.
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