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Post#341 » by mpharris36 » Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:17 pm

E-Balla wrote:The 2k rating system has been trash ever since they started caring about what players thought. I remember back when being over a 75 meant you were a starter, being over an 80 meant you were an all star, and 90+ ratings were reserved for the most elite and well rounded players only.

https://maddenratings.weebly.com/nba-2k10.html

Look at this ****. Ain't no way under the old rating system Tatum is a 90+, he's more like an 85 kinda guy. Looked it up to see when the 2k ratings started to be trash. Looks like 2k14 is the first game where most starters were over an 80 and by 2k17 every all star in the game was rated 85+.


Facts, I remember one of the greatest games when I was growing up NBA Live 05 ratings were

Kevin Garnett-97
Kobe Bryant-94
Shaquille O'Neal-92
Tracy McGrady-90
Tim Duncan-89

Paul Pierce-89
Vince Carter-88
Baron Davis-88
Ray Allen-86
Jason Kidd-85

Allen Iverson-85
Steve Francis-85
Stephon Marbury-85
Dirk Nowitzki-85
Jermaine O'Neal-84

Andre Kirilenko-83
LeBron James-83
Shawn Marion-83
Pau Gasol-82
Peja Stojakovic-81

Ben Wallace-81
Michael Finley-81
Elton Brand-81
Carmelo Anthony-80
Yao Ming-80
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Post#342 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:18 pm

E-Balla wrote:The 2k rating system has been trash ever since they started caring about what players thought. I remember back when being over a 75 meant you were a starter, being over an 80 meant you were an all star, and 90+ ratings were reserved for the most elite and well rounded players only.

https://maddenratings.weebly.com/nba-2k10.html

Look at this ****. Ain't no way under the old rating system Tatum is a 90+, he's more like an 85 kinda guy. Looked it up to see when the 2k ratings started to be trash. Looks like 2k14 is the first game where most starters were over an 80 and by 2k17 every all star in the game was rated 85+.

Tatum would be at least an 88 in the old 2k rating. An 85 puts him with al Jefferson :lol:

But I agree the new 2k ratings are wack. 2k11 is the GOAT
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Post#343 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:23 pm

Tatum will be a 95 next year. Watch!!!
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Post#344 » by E-Balla » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:09 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
E-Balla wrote:The 2k rating system has been trash ever since they started caring about what players thought. I remember back when being over a 75 meant you were a starter, being over an 80 meant you were an all star, and 90+ ratings were reserved for the most elite and well rounded players only.

https://maddenratings.weebly.com/nba-2k10.html

Look at this ****. Ain't no way under the old rating system Tatum is a 90+, he's more like an 85 kinda guy. Looked it up to see when the 2k ratings started to be trash. Looks like 2k14 is the first game where most starters were over an 80 and by 2k17 every all star in the game was rated 85+.

Tatum would be at least an 88 in the old 2k rating. An 85 puts him with al Jefferson :lol:

But I agree the new 2k ratings are wack. 2k11 is the GOAT

You gotta remember Al Jefferson plays a different position than Tatum. Back then PF/Cs got most their ratings from their rebounding (look at how low Dirk is). As a SF Tatum wouldn't be rated much higher than Paul Pierce. But maybe you're right. 2k used to overrate Melo and give him a 88-90 every year when he should've been a mid to low 80 so maybe they'd do the same to Tatum.

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E-Balla wrote:The 2k rating system has been trash ever since they started caring about what players thought. I remember back when being over a 75 meant you were a starter, being over an 80 meant you were an all star, and 90+ ratings were reserved for the most elite and well rounded players only.

https://maddenratings.weebly.com/nba-2k10.html

Look at this ****. Ain't no way under the old rating system Tatum is a 90+, he's more like an 85 kinda guy. Looked it up to see when the 2k ratings started to be trash. Looks like 2k14 is the first game where most starters were over an 80 and by 2k17 every all star in the game was rated 85+.


Facts, I remember one of the greatest games when I was growing up NBA Live 05 ratings were

Kevin Garnett-97
Kobe Bryant-94
Shaquille O'Neal-92
Tracy McGrady-90
Tim Duncan-89

Paul Pierce-89
Vince Carter-88
Baron Davis-88
Ray Allen-86
Jason Kidd-85

Allen Iverson-85
Steve Francis-85
Stephon Marbury-85
Dirk Nowitzki-85
Jermaine O'Neal-84

Andre Kirilenko-83
LeBron James-83
Shawn Marion-83
Pau Gasol-82
Peja Stojakovic-81

Ben Wallace-81
Michael Finley-81
Elton Brand-81
Carmelo Anthony-80
Yao Ming-80

I love it because it comes across heavily in game play. Like there's not much of a gap in using All Stars and Superstars in newer 2k games. There's definitely no gap in how good teams are defensively either.
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Post#345 » by Buzzard » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:10 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
E-Balla wrote:The 2k rating system has been trash ever since they started caring about what players thought. I remember back when being over a 75 meant you were a starter, being over an 80 meant you were an all star, and 90+ ratings were reserved for the most elite and well rounded players only.

https://maddenratings.weebly.com/nba-2k10.html

Look at this ****. Ain't no way under the old rating system Tatum is a 90+, he's more like an 85 kinda guy. Looked it up to see when the 2k ratings started to be trash. Looks like 2k14 is the first game where most starters were over an 80 and by 2k17 every all star in the game was rated 85+.

Tatum would be at least an 88 in the old 2k rating. An 85 puts him with al Jefferson :lol:

But I agree the new 2k ratings are wack. 2k11 is the GOAT

I wish the SIM would at least use something close to the stats that were put up by the players in the NBA. I think Zion was given 15 points per game in season 4 by the Sim. That is hog wash since he put up 22.5 two years ago. He should have got at least 20 points a game and the SIM did not like him for some unknown reason.

Zion put up 27.0 in 33.2 minutes on great efficiency .649 TS in 2020/21. If he does not get a sizable bump, I am going to assume the person loading these ratings has a huge Zion bias ( probably other players as well ) and we should no longer use their services.

Since I can't find a link to see Zions stats in season 4, my 15 points came from something I saw and can't remember where. If I am wrong I apologize in advance.
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Post#346 » by Smash3 » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:14 pm

Buzzard wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
E-Balla wrote:The 2k rating system has been trash ever since they started caring about what players thought. I remember back when being over a 75 meant you were a starter, being over an 80 meant you were an all star, and 90+ ratings were reserved for the most elite and well rounded players only.

https://maddenratings.weebly.com/nba-2k10.html

Look at this ****. Ain't no way under the old rating system Tatum is a 90+, he's more like an 85 kinda guy. Looked it up to see when the 2k ratings started to be trash. Looks like 2k14 is the first game where most starters were over an 80 and by 2k17 every all star in the game was rated 85+.

Tatum would be at least an 88 in the old 2k rating. An 85 puts him with al Jefferson :lol:

But I agree the new 2k ratings are wack. 2k11 is the GOAT

I wish the SIM would at least use something close to the stats that were put up by the players in the NBA. I think Zion was given 15 points per game in season 4 by the Sim. That is hog wash since he put up 22.5 two years ago. He should have got at least 20 points a game and the SIM did not like him for some unknown reason.

Zion put up 27.0 in 33.2 minutes on great efficiency .649 TS in 2020/21. If he does not get a sizable bump, I am going to assume the person loading these ratings has a huge Zion bias ( probably other players as well ) and we should no longer use their services.


Most of the shots probably went to KAT/Mitchell/Doncic
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Post#347 » by mpharris36 » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:18 pm

Buzzard wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
E-Balla wrote:The 2k rating system has been trash ever since they started caring about what players thought. I remember back when being over a 75 meant you were a starter, being over an 80 meant you were an all star, and 90+ ratings were reserved for the most elite and well rounded players only.

https://maddenratings.weebly.com/nba-2k10.html

Look at this ****. Ain't no way under the old rating system Tatum is a 90+, he's more like an 85 kinda guy. Looked it up to see when the 2k ratings started to be trash. Looks like 2k14 is the first game where most starters were over an 80 and by 2k17 every all star in the game was rated 85+.

Tatum would be at least an 88 in the old 2k rating. An 85 puts him with al Jefferson :lol:

But I agree the new 2k ratings are wack. 2k11 is the GOAT

I wish the SIM would at least use something close to the stats that were put up by the players in the NBA. I think Zion was given 15 points per game in season 4 by the Sim. That is hog wash since he put up 22.5 two years ago. He should have got at least 20 points a game and the SIM did not like him for some unknown reason.

Zion put up 27.0 in 33.2 minutes on great efficiency .649 TS in 2020/21. If he does not get a sizable bump, I am going to assume the person loading these ratings has a huge Zion bias ( probably other players as well ) and we should no longer use their services.

Since I can't find a link to see Zions stats in season 4, my 15 points came from something I saw and can't remember where. If I am wrong I apologize in advance.


There are many factors that go into the SIM stats. Zion was very good in the SIM he just didn't have as much opportunity because he was playing alongside 3 other big time scorers.

For example I funneled the offense through James Wiseman my first year (played him with unselfish low scoring guys) so the SIM by default went with him. So if I switched Wiseman with Zion I'm sure Zion would have avg monster numbers on my team.

What do you expect Zion to put up playing alongside Luka/Mitchell/KAT who all score a ton. No one has 4 guys avg 20+ pts nor should a team avg 140 pts per game. The scoring rating in the SIM is very important in terms of what guys they funnel the shots too.
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Post#348 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:20 pm

E-Balla wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
E-Balla wrote:The 2k rating system has been trash ever since they started caring about what players thought. I remember back when being over a 75 meant you were a starter, being over an 80 meant you were an all star, and 90+ ratings were reserved for the most elite and well rounded players only.

https://maddenratings.weebly.com/nba-2k10.html

Look at this ****. Ain't no way under the old rating system Tatum is a 90+, he's more like an 85 kinda guy. Looked it up to see when the 2k ratings started to be trash. Looks like 2k14 is the first game where most starters were over an 80 and by 2k17 every all star in the game was rated 85+.

Tatum would be at least an 88 in the old 2k rating. An 85 puts him with al Jefferson :lol:

But I agree the new 2k ratings are wack. 2k11 is the GOAT

You gotta remember Al Jefferson plays a different position than Tatum. Back then PF/Cs got most their ratings from their rebounding (look at how low Dirk is). As a SF Tatum wouldn't be rated much higher than Paul Pierce. But maybe you're right. 2k used to overrate Melo and give him a 88-90 every year when he should've been a mid to low 80 so maybe they'd do the same to Tatum.


2k didn’t overrate Melo. In his prime he was unstoppable. That’s where he should’ve been imo
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Post#349 » by Buzzard » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:20 pm

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Buzzard wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Tatum would be at least an 88 in the old 2k rating. An 85 puts him with al Jefferson :lol:

But I agree the new 2k ratings are wack. 2k11 is the GOAT

I wish the SIM would at least use something close to the stats that were put up by the players in the NBA. I think Zion was given 15 points per game in season 4 by the Sim. That is hog wash since he put up 22.5 two years ago. He should have got at least 20 points a game and the SIM did not like him for some unknown reason.

Zion put up 27.0 in 33.2 minutes on great efficiency .649 TS in 2020/21. If he does not get a sizable bump, I am going to assume the person loading these ratings has a huge Zion bias ( probably other players as well ) and we should no longer use their services.


Most of the shots probably went to KAT/Mitchell/Doncic

I think his rating is a 3. Again I think that is hog wash. When he played he was one of the most dominant young players in the game. Pretty much unstoppable. I am venting as it really shocked me how poorly he was in the SIM. I hope this season is different.
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Post#350 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:22 pm

Buzzard wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
E-Balla wrote:The 2k rating system has been trash ever since they started caring about what players thought. I remember back when being over a 75 meant you were a starter, being over an 80 meant you were an all star, and 90+ ratings were reserved for the most elite and well rounded players only.

https://maddenratings.weebly.com/nba-2k10.html

Look at this ****. Ain't no way under the old rating system Tatum is a 90+, he's more like an 85 kinda guy. Looked it up to see when the 2k ratings started to be trash. Looks like 2k14 is the first game where most starters were over an 80 and by 2k17 every all star in the game was rated 85+.

Tatum would be at least an 88 in the old 2k rating. An 85 puts him with al Jefferson :lol:

But I agree the new 2k ratings are wack. 2k11 is the GOAT

I wish the SIM would at least use something close to the stats that were put up by the players in the NBA. I think Zion was given 15 points per game in season 4 by the Sim. That is hog wash since he put up 22.5 two years ago. He should have got at least 20 points a game and the SIM did not like him for some unknown reason.

Zion put up 27.0 in 33.2 minutes on great efficiency .649 TS in 2020/21. If he does not get a sizable bump, I am going to assume the person loading these ratings has a huge Zion bias ( probably other players as well ) and we should no longer use their services.

Since I can't find a link to see Zions stats in season 4, my 15 points came from something I saw and can't remember where. If I am wrong I apologize in advance.

His numbers are lower cause he was playing with Luka, Mitchell and KAT.

Look at the numbers of my players. I have a big 6 and not one of them averaged 20 PPG. They gotta share the ball


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Post#351 » by mpharris36 » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:22 pm

Buzzard wrote:
Smash3 wrote:
Buzzard wrote:I wish the SIM would at least use something close to the stats that were put up by the players in the NBA. I think Zion was given 15 points per game in season 4 by the Sim. That is hog wash since he put up 22.5 two years ago. He should have got at least 20 points a game and the SIM did not like him for some unknown reason.

Zion put up 27.0 in 33.2 minutes on great efficiency .649 TS in 2020/21. If he does not get a sizable bump, I am going to assume the person loading these ratings has a huge Zion bias ( probably other players as well ) and we should no longer use their services.


Most of the shots probably went to KAT/Mitchell/Doncic

I think his rating is a 3. Again I think that is hog wash. When he played he is one of the most dominant young players in the game. Pretty much unstoppable. I am venting as it really shocked me how poorly he was in the SIM. I hope this season is different.


he was a 3.5 star/4.5 potential last year which is pretty solid coming off your first year. My guess he is a 4 star/4.5 or even 5 potential guy this year.
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Post#352 » by Smash3 » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:23 pm

Buzzard wrote:
Smash3 wrote:
Buzzard wrote:I wish the SIM would at least use something close to the stats that were put up by the players in the NBA. I think Zion was given 15 points per game in season 4 by the Sim. That is hog wash since he put up 22.5 two years ago. He should have got at least 20 points a game and the SIM did not like him for some unknown reason.

Zion put up 27.0 in 33.2 minutes on great efficiency .649 TS in 2020/21. If he does not get a sizable bump, I am going to assume the person loading these ratings has a huge Zion bias ( probably other players as well ) and we should no longer use their services.


Most of the shots probably went to KAT/Mitchell/Doncic

I think his rating is a 3. Again I think that is hog wash. When he played he is one of the most dominant young players in the game. Pretty much unstoppable. I am venting as it really shocked me how poorly he was in the SIM. I hope this season is different.


Younger players in the sim start off with a 3-3.5 star rating, but if they have a high potential rating - they finish the season as a 4.5 star or 5-star rated player which Zion probably did.
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Post#353 » by Buzzard » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:25 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Tatum would be at least an 88 in the old 2k rating. An 85 puts him with al Jefferson :lol:

But I agree the new 2k ratings are wack. 2k11 is the GOAT

You gotta remember Al Jefferson plays a different position than Tatum. Back then PF/Cs got most their ratings from their rebounding (look at how low Dirk is). As a SF Tatum wouldn't be rated much higher than Paul Pierce. But maybe you're right. 2k used to overrate Melo and give him a 88-90 every year when he should've been a mid to low 80 so maybe they'd do the same to Tatum.


2k didn’t overrate Melo. In his prime he was unstoppable. That’s where he should’ve been imo

Dirk averaged over 9 boards a game for five seasons. 8.9 for one other. In his prime Dirk was a solid rebounder. I loved snagging him on my fantasy teams.
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Post#354 » by Buzzard » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:29 pm

Smash3 wrote:
Buzzard wrote:
Smash3 wrote:
Most of the shots probably went to KAT/Mitchell/Doncic

I think his rating is a 3. Again I think that is hog wash. When he played he is one of the most dominant young players in the game. Pretty much unstoppable. I am venting as it really shocked me how poorly he was in the SIM. I hope this season is different.


Younger players in the sim start off with a 3-3.5 star rating, but if they have a high potential rating - they finish the season as a 4.5 star or 5-star rated player which Zion probably did.

I get the defensive liability but I am expecting a 4. Again last season was not his start. The SIM had his rookie season of 22.5 on .616 TS in front of them to see. No guess work. Its like the SIM projected him to have a drop off from season 3. I don't understand that at all :lol:
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Post#355 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:33 pm

I didn’t have a single player in the top 20 of scoring and I still won the chip :o
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Post#356 » by Buzzard » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:36 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:I didn’t have a single player in the top 20 of scoring and I still won the chip :o

You did a hell of a job with your balance. No weak spots in you top 7 - 8 players and it looks like the injury bug stayed away from you also.
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Post#357 » by E-Balla » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:41 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:Tatum would be at least an 88 in the old 2k rating. An 85 puts him with al Jefferson :lol:

But I agree the new 2k ratings are wack. 2k11 is the GOAT

You gotta remember Al Jefferson plays a different position than Tatum. Back then PF/Cs got most their ratings from their rebounding (look at how low Dirk is). As a SF Tatum wouldn't be rated much higher than Paul Pierce. But maybe you're right. 2k used to overrate Melo and give him a 88-90 every year when he should've been a mid to low 80 so maybe they'd do the same to Tatum.


2k didn’t overrate Melo. In his prime he was unstoppable. That’s where he should’ve been imo

Melo was NOT better than Dirk, Dwight, Duncan, etc. bro stop it. Love you Melo but you dead wrong here. Deron Williams and Rondo were another 2 guys always overrated on 2k.
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Post#358 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:42 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:I didn’t have a single player in the top 20 of scoring and I still won the chip :o

You did a hell of a job with your balance. No weak spots in you top 7 - 8 players and it looks like the injury bug stayed away from you also.

Thanks 8-)

And yeah bish lowered the injury sliders so injuries were much more manageable this year for the most part.

Also I wouldn’t worry about Zion. He’s likely 4 stars at minimum this coming season
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Post#359 » by E-Balla » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:44 pm

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Buzzard wrote:I wish the SIM would at least use something close to the stats that were put up by the players in the NBA. I think Zion was given 15 points per game in season 4 by the Sim. That is hog wash since he put up 22.5 two years ago. He should have got at least 20 points a game and the SIM did not like him for some unknown reason.

Zion put up 27.0 in 33.2 minutes on great efficiency .649 TS in 2020/21. If he does not get a sizable bump, I am going to assume the person loading these ratings has a huge Zion bias ( probably other players as well ) and we should no longer use their services.


Most of the shots probably went to KAT/Mitchell/Doncic

I think his rating is a 3. Again I think that is hog wash. When he played he was one of the most dominant young players in the game. Pretty much unstoppable. I am venting as it really shocked me how poorly he was in the SIM. I hope this season is different.

How is he supposed to score 20+ a game with 3 higher volume guys on the squad? You're forgetting to put the context of his production into the context of the team he was on. No 4th options are getting 20 ppg.
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Post#360 » by Buzzard » Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:46 pm

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E-Balla wrote:You gotta remember Al Jefferson plays a different position than Tatum. Back then PF/Cs got most their ratings from their rebounding (look at how low Dirk is). As a SF Tatum wouldn't be rated much higher than Paul Pierce. But maybe you're right. 2k used to overrate Melo and give him a 88-90 every year when he should've been a mid to low 80 so maybe they'd do the same to Tatum.


2k didn’t overrate Melo. In his prime he was unstoppable. That’s where he should’ve been imo

Melo was NOT better than Dirk, Dwight, Duncan, etc. bro stop it. Love you Melo but you dead wrong here. Deron Williams and Rondo were another 2 guys always overrated on 2k.

I thought Deron was great on both ends of the court for about 5 seasons. Then things started deteriorating. Rondo to me was Smart 1.0. The 1st version of a overrated Boston guard. He was a solid starter, slightly better than Smart, but nothing great in my opinion.
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