The Finals Game 6: We are the Champions my friend(s)!

JayMKE · Post #1501 » by **JayMKE** » Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:29 pm

yea i **** hate snapbacks :banghead:

CharityStripe34 · Post #1502 » by **CharityStripe34** » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:06 am

What percentage would we say this team has of repeating? Im not so sure the Nets are as big of a bogeyman as many think. Sure, they'll be favored but the Bucks have the next great generational superstar who's unselfish and flanked by quality talent and leadership. I strangely think Milwaukee will be a bit overlooked a la mid-2000s Spurs. Now, the Spurs never repeated despite having peak Duncan, but the East isn't exactly murderer's row. I would say there are more "pesky" good teams, but the dragon resides in Brooklyn.

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Milbucks96 · Post #1503 » by **Milbucks96** » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:10 am

CharityStripe34 wrote:What percentage would we say this team has of repeating? Im not so sure the Nets are as big of a bogeyman as many think. Sure, they'll be favored but the Bucks have the next great generational superstar who's unselfish and flanked by quality talent and leadership. I strangely think Milwaukee will be a bit overlooked a la mid-2000s Spurs. Now, the Spurs never repeated despite having peak Duncan, but the East isn't exactly murderer's row. I would say there are more "pesky" good teams, but the dragon resides in Brooklyn.

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I would say the bucks are the third best team in the league after the nets and lakers. I would put the nets in their own tier honestly and probably give them 50% chance to win it all, it might even be higher. Next I’ll say the lakers have about 15% chance and the bucks have around 10%.

These are all nonsensical made up percentages of course lol and other teams have somewhat of an outside chance depending on injuries and what not but I think these are the clear contenders with Kawhi and Murray out for most of the year.

I think Philly could hop up there with the bucks and lakers depending on dame, Utah and Phoenix are in the next tier below the bucks for me and has a decent chance if they stay healthy. My biggest worries for next year is health and seeding. I really hope the bucks get at least the two seed and I know home court advantage is waning more and more, but I think having home court in the second round is super important for us next year.

HKPackFan · Post #1504 » by **HKPackFan** » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:56 am

35% chance of repeating, but health is one of the biggest factors.

Managing health across the league is going to be really important, I think other teams will also start to figure that out.

jschligs · Post #1505 » by **jschligs** » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:52 pm

Fun exercise: go read some of the PG threads from the regular season.

mediocrityrules · Post #1506 » by **mediocrityrules** » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:53 pm

Actually feel for Robin on this one!!

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rilamann · Post #1507 » by **rilamann** » Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:13 am

th87 wrote:
BUCKnation wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Think I'd buy more into the Net's narrative if there was precedent for THOSE three particular players being able to stay healthy, play nice in the sandbox and be a juggernaut team.

We really didn't see any of that now or in their pasts. Harden's been a defensive sieve with questions whether a team with him as the focal point ballhandler can win. Kyrie's been **** crazy at times, injured at others. Durant's amazing, but his ring comes from Steph, Klay and Draymond.

That Nets team was not 2017 Golden State. They just weren't.

Their big 3 played like 8 games together. Sure, they probably would have won, but let's not act like it's a huge shock that they got injured after spending most of the year in that state.

I actually don't see why that's probable. We're still bigger and more physical than them and likely would've realized that eventually.

Their efficiency was insane with Durant doing all the offense, and I'm not sure there was any further up to go. Irving would've worn down with Jrue beating on him, leading to more missed shots (that Durant wasn't taking), and defensively, they'd be worse with Harden and Irving on the floor.

This is a great point and I am actually surprised it's not brought up more often in the whole Healthy Nets would have smoked the Bucks in 4 or 5 debate. Just to kind of echo you, Durant played maybe the best series of his life, he probably doesn't play at that level if he has to share the ball with Harden and Kyrie. I think that made the loss of Harden or Kyrie not as glaring as it seemed. The Nets at 100% are our greatest threat, no doubt. I just think that series was kind of deceiving if you're using it to assume it's an automatic loss for the Bucks if the Nets are healthy.

Plus, I think going into the 2022 season, the Bucks are in a much better place from a mental standpoint to beat a healthy Nets team than they were this past season. The Bucks played incredibly dumb at times and played with that nervous pressure in the Nets series. And still won the series with Durant doing Jordan level **** and they even got a game where Jeff Green simultaneously with Durant in MJ mode went full Steph Curry, like PP mentioned.

But now the Bucks have championship experience, and with that comes a high level of confidence and mental toughness. Also, the Bucks no longer have that nervous pressure on their backs of having not won a championship or having not gotten to an NBA Finals. I think we're going to see a smarter Bucks team this coming season and a Bucks team that plays with a loose, but incredibly high level of unshakable confidence.

Winning a game 7 on the road in overtime while the opposing team's best player is doing an incredible Michael Jordan impression, while on your way to a championship is going to put you on a different planet (mentally) going into next season. Or at least you think it would.

The first Finals I ever watched was in 1991, I was a kid and it was a long time ago, but I do remember some parallels with the 1991 Bulls and the 2021 Bucks. Prior to the 1991 Finals, people said a lot of the same things about Jordan and the Bulls that they said about Giannis and the Bucks prior to the 2021 Finals.

The Bulls had been knocking on the door but couldn't get over the hump prior to 1991, and before 1991, some people thought they never would. Just like the Bucks prior to 2021. And no one was talking about MJ as a guy you'd never bet against prior to 1991. Great, MVP level player, yes. But not an I refuse to be denied guy who would be unbeatable on a championship stage. Just like Giannis prior to 2021. But once the Bulls got over the hump and Jordan got his first taste of a championship and no longer had that pressure of not winning one, it was over for the rest of the league.

The Bucks finally got over the hump and in the Finals we watched Giannis go to an insane, unbeatable I refuse to be denied goat level we had never seen before. Not saying I think we're going to 3-peat or win 6 in 8 years like MJ's Bulls. Or that Giannis is MJ. But there are some pretty strong parallels to Bucks right now with the Bulls after they won their first title. We'll have to wait and see if the parallels between them continue. I hope so...lol.

HurricaneKid · Post #1508 » by **HurricaneKid** » Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:41 am

ReasonablySober wrote:I gotta say I've been really disappointed in the quality of literally every piece of gear I've ordered. The quality of the material in the tees and hoodies were pretty trash. For the prices I've been super disappointed. Over the last couple years I've made multiple orders with outlets who handle independent designers and the quality has been world's better for half the price. The stuff I've gotten from NBA.com and Fanatics has been garbage.

This has become pervasive. As more and more people shop online and don't touch or try things on before they buy, quality has all gone to ****. I've had things fall apart the first time through the wash.

I get iron on patches and put them nice gear. It'll outlast me. I do the same with national park patches.

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rilamann · Post #1509 » by **rilamann** » Wed Aug 18, 2021 2:24 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
Don’t forget game five where Jeff Green went 6-7 from three. That’s not repeatable either.

Game 4 felt like a win for us even before Kyrie got hurt. So I'll argue that if Kyrie doesn't get hurt, those shots Jeff Green got in game 5 probably go to Kyrie, who doesn't go 6-7 on 3's and we actually win the series in 6, not 7 if Kyie doesn't twist his ankle.

Think about it, in game 5 Durant went full Jordan while Jeff Green was going full Steph Curry and despite that, we probably still win that game if we don't play arguably our dumbest 2nd half of the season. Even if we just play just kind of dumb in the 2nd half we probably still win that game. If we win the series in 6 the narrative is probably a little different.

Hell, I'll take it one step further, if we don't play really dumb in game 1 we probably win that game too. Game 1 was there for the taking, but we played like we said No thanks. I guess what I am saying is you can make a decent case that if the Bucks played a bit smarter, that could have won the series 4-1, even with KD in Jordan mode and Kyie Irving at 100%.

I think the Nets, if all 3 guys are healthy, are a very legit threat to our chances of getting back to the Finals in 2022. I am just not one of those people who think it's a lock for the Nets to beat us if they have all 3 guys healthy.

BUCKnation · Post #1510 » by **BUCKnation** » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:20 am

Badgerlander wrote:Really wish they would make the Championship hat in a nice fitted and formed rim dad hat. I bought the flat brim snapback just to have it but i cant stand wearing them

I was able to snag a green bucks dad hat on from fanatics from 47 brand with the logo and then a LOB trophy patch on the side. That one sold out within a day, but that might be available elsewhere

sidney lanier · Post #1511 » by **sidney lanier** » Wed Aug 18, 2021 2:41 pm

mediocrityrules wrote:Actually feel for Robin on this one!!

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I think there's a career in standup waiting for RoLo after the NBA. Kind of an Andy Kaufman meets Steven Wright.

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jute2003 · Post #1512 » by **jute2003** » Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:51 pm

StickeeFingaz wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:I gotta say I've been really disappointed in the quality of literally every piece of gear I've ordered. The quality of the material in the tees and hoodies were pretty trash. For the prices I've been super disappointed. Over the last couple years I've made multiple orders with outlets who handle independent designers and the quality has been world's better for half the price. The stuff I've gotten from NBA.com and Fanatics has been garbage.

Yea, that's what I was afraid of so I haven't ordered anything. I'm keeping my eye out for non-NBA/Fanatics gear.

I'm super happy with the stuff I've gotten off the Bucks Pro Shop website over the last few years. A couple hoodies, a long sleeve t-shirt, and just recently, a championship t-shirt. Everything is holding up well and didn't shrink instantly or anything once washed. Colors are good, material seems fine. I tend to lean more towards the more expensive stuff with brands I recognize. I don't know if that matters.

emunney · Post #1513 » by **emunney** » Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:39 pm

Starting to get annoying that the status of my order hasn't updated in almost a month. I feel like the disclaimer on the website that orders "may be delayed" doesn't touch the reality of this situation. My kid wanted to wear his gear on the first day of school (next Wednesday for him), still holding out hope for a miracle.

Post #1514 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:22 pm

In '22 I'm just goin to Scheels.

Post #1515 » by **humanrefutation** » Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:57 am

ReasonablySober wrote:I gotta say I've been really disappointed in the quality of literally every piece of gear I've ordered. The quality of the material in the tees and hoodies were pretty trash. For the prices I've been super disappointed. Over the last couple years I've made multiple orders with outlets who handle independent designers and the quality has been world's better for half the price. The stuff I've gotten from NBA.com and Fanatics has been garbage.

Agreed. I bought four shirts and the championship cap. I think the cap looks slick, but I strongly prefer fitted 59Fiftys. The shirts are not of great quality, even as I think some of the designs themselves were nice.

I'm just about to do a wash with them, and I kind of figured that their durability would be questionable - it always seems to be with the mass produced championship gear. But I couldn't help but open up the wallet for a title that I've been waiting for my whole life.

JEIS · Post #1516 » by **JEIS** » Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:57 am

I know the Bucks won. I seen it with my own dam# eyes. I watched the ceremony. The mood when leaving the arena was eerily calm. There really wasn't a lot of cheering in the hall ways, that a win usually brings, it was more of a weird peace/shock. Like, everyone was still trying to process what the hell just happened?! and were in disbelief. I am sill in shock that it legit happened. In my heart, it felt like they would win it after they beat the Nets games 7 in OT.
When Giannis bent his knee all nasty, I thought this is the fu#!ing Bucks luck! unf#%kingbelievable! Of course Giannis would blow out his knee after beating the Nets. Then when the Bucks beat the Hawks without Giannis the last two games... i thought they are going to lose in the finals, Who knew when Giannis would be back?... Best case looked like two weeks. He played the first game of the series, and they then still went down 0-2... We are going to blow this... after all that they overcame. Bucks rip off four in a row, win in six, get the ship and end it. Jrue give booker a reason to go to therapy for the rest of his life. Bobby becomes a cult hero, Kris becomes what everyone wanted him to become, Giannis has a game saving block, Ends the series on a ridiculous free throw shooting night in the biggest game while putting up 50.

Oh yeah, Lebron.... Chris Paul still needs 2 more

Bucksmaniac · Post #1517 » by **Bucksmaniac** » Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:12 am

CharityStripe34 wrote:What percentage would we say this team has of repeating? Im not so sure the Nets are as big of a bogeyman as many think. Sure, they'll be favored but the Bucks have the next great generational superstar who's unselfish and flanked by quality talent and leadership. I strangely think Milwaukee will be a bit overlooked a la mid-2000s Spurs. Now, the Spurs never repeated despite having peak Duncan, but the East isn't exactly murderer's row. I would say there are more "pesky" good teams, but the dragon resides in Brooklyn.

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I’d say unscientific guess at this point 15-20%.

HKPackFan · Post #1518 » by **HKPackFan** » Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:37 am

Im still teary eyed watching those epic highlight videos.

fan230 · Post #1519 » by **fan230** » Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:23 am

HKPackFan wrote:Im still teary eyed watching those epic highlight videos.

Would you give some of the links for these videos please? I would keep them in one place and watch whenever I can. Will never forget the feeling when the clock suddenly started rolling towards zero seconds, sitting at Fiserv. I felt it had been a life worth living.

HKPackFan · Post #1520 » by **HKPackFan** » Thu Aug 19, 2021 2:17 pm

fan230 wrote:
HKPackFan wrote:Im still teary eyed watching those epic highlight videos.

Would you give some of the links for these videos please? I would keep them in one place and watch whenever I can. Will never forget the feeling when the clock suddenly started rolling towards zero seconds, sitting at Fiserv. I felt it had been a life worth living.

Watch on YouTube

The one made by the bucks is incredible all access and the NBA mini movie one is like the NFL films style no narrator but with the music and slow motion.

These two u can watch forever. I love the Jrue one to show his impact on defense and I love the last 4 minutes just reliving the end of game 6.

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Khris Middleton is good at basketball.