BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option)

[F N 11]

And everyone likes shooters. Everyone we signed could easily be targets and major need from other teams. This is Marcus Morris type scheme the Knicks working on. You want Noel and Burks to solidify your playoff team? Sure a first and 3 seconds.

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It has been really easy for the Magic to trade him so finally they decided for actually gettin nothing in return for Fournier...
Fournier it's an OK player to have around but be prepared to have a big black hole on defense. He just doesn't care.

Knick fans heard the same scouting reports about, well, the majority of the players on last year's roster - but something about this coaching staff seems to help players find a spark. They look alive, if nothing else...and sometimes that's all it takes.

Defensive schemes and accountability.

[Butch718]

Did we really just increase bostons chance of getting a nice free agent/ trade for a really cheap 2nd rounder? Why? Its not like we have to stock that particular cupboard.

Building good faith with other teams?

Even if that was the plan, shouldnt be doing that with teams in our division. Bad enough that nets got it on lock for the next few years, dont need to be helping anybody else.

Nope. Celtic’s can’t use the TPE or combine to match salaries so you can calm down.

[Oscirus]

Building good faith with other teams?

Even if that was the plan, shouldnt be doing that with teams in our division. Bad enough that nets got it on lock for the next few years, dont need to be helping anybody else.

Nope. Celtic’s can’t use the TPE or combine to match salaries so you can calm down.

What the hell are you talking about? The ability to go over the cap to trade for players is an advantage, they legit just got a 17.8 million dollar advantage, nobody gives a damn about matching salaries.

[Butch718]

Even if that was the plan, shouldnt be doing that with teams in our division. Bad enough that nets got it on lock for the next few years, dont need to be helping anybody else.

Nope. Celtic’s can’t use the TPE or combine to match salaries so you can calm down.

What the hell are you talking about? The ability to go over the cap to trade for players is an advantage, they legit just got a 17.8 million dollar advantage, nobody gives a damn about matching salaries.

you’re panicking at moves that haven’t made yet. Calm the **** down, it’s embarrassing.

Also, you make moves to improve your own situation going forward, not worrying about what a rival is going to do. Stop acting like a simp.

[Oscirus]

Nope. Celtic’s can’t use the TPE or combine to match salaries so you can calm down.

What the hell are you talking about? The ability to go over the cap to trade for players is an advantage, they legit just got a 17.8 million dollar advantage, nobody gives a damn about matching salaries.

you’re panicking at moves that haven’t made yet. Calm the **** down, it’s embarrassing.

Also, you make moves to improve your own situation going forward, not worrying about what a rival is going to do. Stop acting like a simp.

Right picking up a 2nd rounder (not even a good one) when we have a surplus of 2nd rounders is really helping our situation. If theres anything here thats embarrassing its your lack of foresight into seeing why this is a bad move. Well that and your misuse of the term "simp" but thats a conversation for another time.

[FreeSpiritNY]

What the hell are you talking about? The ability to go over the cap to trade for players is an advantage, they legit just got a 17.8 million dollar advantage, nobody gives a damn about matching salaries.

you’re panicking at moves that haven’t made yet. Calm the **** down, it’s embarrassing.

Also, you make moves to improve your own situation going forward, not worrying about what a rival is going to do. Stop acting like a simp.

Right picking up a 2nd rounder (not even a good one) when we have a surplus of 2nd rounders is really helping our situation. If theres anything here thats embarrassing its your lack of foresight into seeing why this is a bad move. Well that and your misuse of the term "simp" but thats a conversation for another time.

You do realize McBride, Robinson & sims are all second rounders. Not to mention quickley was considered a 2nd rounder but the Knicks didn’t want to take a chance losing him.


2nd rounder are becoming the thing of the future. Low guaranteed money and you get players who won’t be start but who can contribute. Although McBride has a lot of potential to be specials.

You don’t worry about what you enemy is doing you worry about yourself. Because just like they made a move we did to. You’ll see in a year when those second rounder are going to be amazing when the age is back to 18

[Richard4444]

you’re panicking at moves that haven’t made yet. Calm the **** down, it’s embarrassing.

Also, you make moves to improve your own situation going forward, not worrying about what a rival is going to do. Stop acting like a simp.

Right picking up a 2nd rounder (not even a good one) when we have a surplus of 2nd rounders is really helping our situation. If theres anything here thats embarrassing its your lack of foresight into seeing why this is a bad move. Well that and your misuse of the term "simp" but thats a conversation for another time.

You do realize McBride, Robinson & sims are all second rounders. Not to mention quickley was considered a 2nd rounder but the Knicks didn’t want to take a chance losing him.


2nd rounder are becoming the thing of the future. Low guaranteed money and you get players who won’t be start but who can contribute. Although McBride has a lot of potential to be specials.

You don’t worry about what you enemy is doing you worry about yourself. Because just like they made a move we did to. You’ll see in a year when those second rounder are going to be amazing when the age is back to 18

1) We have in the East alone 14 more rivals. I dont see the point to worry just about The Celtics. We need to keep getting better. Its a free Second Rounder.

2) During the last decade, I feel we used to be a kind of isolated franchise that barely got into trades. Except when we overpaid because we were kind of desperate (Bargnani, Melo/Kanter, Mudlay). The situation is changing. We are doing more profitable business now. The majority of good trades help opponents.

3) Boston has the chance to improve by getting the TPE. They still did not improve yet. They might not ever use it. They are already over the luxury line at 140M. If they use it, they will have a massive bill. And it can get worse in the following years.

4) The front office is not very worried about this season. We are not a title contender yet.

[Juggynaut]

LMAO the Knicks have much bigger problems than giving a **** about Boston. Knicks were given 2 free 2nd round picks and will gladly take them.

[Reign23]

Read on Twitter

all contracts (burks, noel, fournier) are now better than first reported. overall good offseason now!
Taj contract still very dubios tho.

[Oscirus]

you’re panicking at moves that haven’t made yet. Calm the **** down, it’s embarrassing.

Also, you make moves to improve your own situation going forward, not worrying about what a rival is going to do. Stop acting like a simp.

Right picking up a 2nd rounder (not even a good one) when we have a surplus of 2nd rounders is really helping our situation. If theres anything here thats embarrassing its your lack of foresight into seeing why this is a bad move. Well that and your misuse of the term "simp" but thats a conversation for another time.

You do realize McBride, Robinson & sims are all second rounders. Not to mention quickley was considered a 2nd rounder but the Knicks didn’t want to take a chance losing him.


2nd rounder are becoming the thing of the future. Low guaranteed money and you get players who won’t be start but who can contribute. Although McBride has a lot of potential to be specials.

You don’t worry about what you enemy is doing you worry about yourself. Because just like they made a move we did to. You’ll see in a year when those second rounder are going to be amazing when the age is back to 18

Mcbride and sims have proven jack **** yet and robinson is on his way out. Could we hit the lottery and get a jokic with that bad 2nd rounder that we just got? Sure. Is it likely? Nope.
The so-called high school draft means **** all to a front office that doesnt draft young players, even less to a team that has multiple picks in said draft already.

All these stupid trades we keep making manage to do is pick up bad assets in a trade for a future star that other teams clearly wont be interested in.

[FreeSpiritNY]

Right picking up a 2nd rounder (not even a good one) when we have a surplus of 2nd rounders is really helping our situation. If theres anything here thats embarrassing its your lack of foresight into seeing why this is a bad move. Well that and your misuse of the term "simp" but thats a conversation for another time.

You do realize McBride, Robinson & sims are all second rounders. Not to mention quickley was considered a 2nd rounder but the Knicks didn’t want to take a chance losing him.


2nd rounder are becoming the thing of the future. Low guaranteed money and you get players who won’t be start but who can contribute. Although McBride has a lot of potential to be specials.

You don’t worry about what you enemy is doing you worry about yourself. Because just like they made a move we did to. You’ll see in a year when those second rounder are going to be amazing when the age is back to 18

Mcbride and sims have proven jack **** yet and robinson is on his way out. Could we hit the lottery and get a jokic with that bad 2nd rounder that we just got? Sure. Is it likely? Nope.
The so-called high school draft means **** all to a front office that doesnt draft young players, even less to a team that has multiple picks in said draft already.

All these stupid trades we keep making manage to do is pick up bad assets in a trade for a future star that other teams clearly wont be interested in.

The last 20 years how many 1st rounders made a Allstar team that we drafted.

[Oscirus]

You do realize McBride, Robinson & sims are all second rounders. Not to mention quickley was considered a 2nd rounder but the Knicks didn’t want to take a chance losing him.


2nd rounder are becoming the thing of the future. Low guaranteed money and you get players who won’t be start but who can contribute. Although McBride has a lot of potential to be specials.

You don’t worry about what you enemy is doing you worry about yourself. Because just like they made a move we did to. You’ll see in a year when those second rounder are going to be amazing when the age is back to 18

Mcbride and sims have proven jack **** yet and robinson is on his way out. Could we hit the lottery and get a jokic with that bad 2nd rounder that we just got? Sure. Is it likely? Nope.
The so-called high school draft means **** all to a front office that doesnt draft young players, even less to a team that has multiple picks in said draft already.

All these stupid trades we keep making manage to do is pick up bad assets in a trade for a future star that other teams clearly wont be interested in.

The last 20 years how many 1st rounders made a Allstar team that we drafted.

None, so why do people think we'd have better luck in the second round? We suck at getting rotation players in the lottery.

[KnicksGadfly]

Right picking up a 2nd rounder (not even a good one) when we have a surplus of 2nd rounders is really helping our situation. If theres anything here thats embarrassing its your lack of foresight into seeing why this is a bad move. Well that and your misuse of the term "simp" but thats a conversation for another time.

You do realize McBride, Robinson & sims are all second rounders. Not to mention quickley was considered a 2nd rounder but the Knicks didn’t want to take a chance losing him.


2nd rounder are becoming the thing of the future. Low guaranteed money and you get players who won’t be start but who can contribute. Although McBride has a lot of potential to be specials.

You don’t worry about what you enemy is doing you worry about yourself. Because just like they made a move we did to. You’ll see in a year when those second rounder are going to be amazing when the age is back to 18

Mcbride and sims have proven jack **** yet and robinson is on his way out. Could we hit the lottery and get a jokic with that bad 2nd rounder that we just got? Sure. Is it likely? Nope.
The so-called high school draft means **** all to a front office that doesnt draft young players, even less to a team that has multiple picks in said draft already.

All these stupid trades we keep making manage to do is pick up bad assets in a trade for a future star that other teams clearly wont be interested in.

We’re not good enough to worry about the opponent yet. And the Celtics aren’t good enough either. If we were championship contenders and maybe deciding whether or not to help the Bucks, sure, I get your point.

This situation? Meh

[BKlutch]

Right picking up a 2nd rounder (not even a good one) when we have a surplus of 2nd rounders is really helping our situation. If theres anything here thats embarrassing its your lack of foresight into seeing why this is a bad move. Well that and your misuse of the term "simp" but thats a conversation for another time.

You do realize McBride, Robinson & sims are all second rounders. Not to mention quickley was considered a 2nd rounder but the Knicks didn’t want to take a chance losing him.

2nd rounder are becoming the thing of the future. Low guaranteed money and you get players who won’t be start but who can contribute. Although McBride has a lot of potential to be specials.

You don’t worry about what you enemy is doing you worry about yourself. Because just like they made a move we did to. You’ll see in a year when those second rounder are going to be amazing when the age is back to 18

Mcbride and sims have proven jack **** yet and robinson is on his way out. Could we hit the lottery and get a jokic with that bad 2nd rounder that we just got? Sure. Is it likely? Nope.
The so-called high school draft means **** all to a front office that doesnt draft young players, even less to a team that has multiple picks in said draft already.

All these stupid trades we keep making manage to do is pick up bad assets in a trade for a future star that other teams clearly wont be interested in.

You're so blinded by your own inner troll that what you write, taken as a whole, makes you look really bad.

1. There is NO surplus of 2nd rounders. It's almost impossible - we could always bundle them into a trade, if we don't want to use them. Also, we could be stocking up for the double draft (see below #4).

2 Judging by what you wrote above, Free Spirit indeed used the word "simp" correctly

3. Cade has proven equally as much as McBride, Grimes, etc. It's all preseason, but lots of very knowledgeable folks love our picks (even our front office, which is highly regarded by most, likes them)

4. The part about the upcoming double draft with high school picks is wrong. This past draft, we traded down because the really great players were no longer available by 19. The upcoming draft will have double the number of great players and double the number of really good players - so we can use second round picks as if they were first round picks, and a first round pick will be the equivalent of a much higher pick in previous drafts. They've been stocking up for a reason.

Calm down and learn to love the team. If you can't, there are 29 other teams out there all looking for more fans to love them. Love a team and enjoy being their fan, or

Spoiler:

just keep on digging your hole deeper.

[omerome]

You do realize McBride, Robinson & sims are all second rounders. Not to mention quickley was considered a 2nd rounder but the Knicks didn’t want to take a chance losing him.

2nd rounder are becoming the thing of the future. Low guaranteed money and you get players who won’t be start but who can contribute. Although McBride has a lot of potential to be specials.

You don’t worry about what you enemy is doing you worry about yourself. Because just like they made a move we did to. You’ll see in a year when those second rounder are going to be amazing when the age is back to 18

Mcbride and sims have proven jack **** yet and robinson is on his way out. Could we hit the lottery and get a jokic with that bad 2nd rounder that we just got? Sure. Is it likely? Nope.
The so-called high school draft means **** all to a front office that doesnt draft young players, even less to a team that has multiple picks in said draft already.

All these stupid trades we keep making manage to do is pick up bad assets in a trade for a future star that other teams clearly wont be interested in.

You're so blinded by your own inner troll that what you write, taken as a whole, makes you look really bad.

1. There is NO surplus of 2nd rounders. It's almost impossible - we could always bundle them into a trade, if we don't want to use them. Also, we could be stocking up for the double draft (see below #4).

2 Judging by what you wrote above, Free Spirit indeed used the word "simp" correctly

3. Cade has proven equally as much as McBride, Grimes, etc. It's all preseason, but lots of very knowledgeable folks love our picks (even our front office, which is highly regarded by most, likes them)

4. The part about the upcoming double draft with high school picks is wrong. This past draft, we traded down because the really great players were no longer available by 19. The upcoming draft will have double the number of great players and double the number of really good players - so we can use second round picks as if they were first round picks, and a first round pick will be the equivalent of a much higher pick in previous drafts. They've been stocking up for a reason.

Calm down and learn to love the team. If you can't, there are 29 other teams out there all looking for more fans to love them. Love a team and enjoy being their fan, or

Spoiler:

just keep on digging your hole deeper.

Straight facts. The FO's only blunder was underselling their #19 pick, but they really have shown they still have a plan and executed it brilliantly based on who's available.

With that said, I am slightly disappointed you didn't go with

Spoiler:

STFU and GTFO.

Instead.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Mcbride and sims have proven jack **** yet and robinson is on his way out. Could we hit the lottery and get a jokic with that bad 2nd rounder that we just got? Sure. Is it likely? Nope.
The so-called high school draft means **** all to a front office that doesnt draft young players, even less to a team that has multiple picks in said draft already.

All these stupid trades we keep making manage to do is pick up bad assets in a trade for a future star that other teams clearly wont be interested in.

You're so blinded by your own inner troll that what you write, taken as a whole, makes you look really bad.

1. There is NO surplus of 2nd rounders. It's almost impossible - we could always bundle them into a trade, if we don't want to use them. Also, we could be stocking up for the double draft (see below #4).

2 Judging by what you wrote above, Free Spirit indeed used the word "simp" correctly

3. Cade has proven equally as much as McBride, Grimes, etc. It's all preseason, but lots of very knowledgeable folks love our picks (even our front office, which is highly regarded by most, likes them)

4. The part about the upcoming double draft with high school picks is wrong. This past draft, we traded down because the really great players were no longer available by 19. The upcoming draft will have double the number of great players and double the number of really good players - so we can use second round picks as if they were first round picks, and a first round pick will be the equivalent of a much higher pick in previous drafts. They've been stocking up for a reason.

Calm down and learn to love the team. If you can't, there are 29 other teams out there all looking for more fans to love them. Love a team and enjoy being their fan, or

Spoiler:

just keep on digging your hole deeper.

Straight facts. The FO's only blunder was underselling their #19 pick, but they really have shown they still have a plan and executed it brilliantly based on who's available.

With that said, I am slightly disappointed you didn't go with

Spoiler:

STFU and GTFO.

Instead.

Y’all speeding. Please relax. This is taking a tone past basketball discussion.

[omerome]

You're so blinded by your own inner troll that what you write, taken as a whole, makes you look really bad.

1. There is NO surplus of 2nd rounders. It's almost impossible - we could always bundle them into a trade, if we don't want to use them. Also, we could be stocking up for the double draft (see below #4).

2 Judging by what you wrote above, Free Spirit indeed used the word "simp" correctly

3. Cade has proven equally as much as McBride, Grimes, etc. It's all preseason, but lots of very knowledgeable folks love our picks (even our front office, which is highly regarded by most, likes them)

4. The part about the upcoming double draft with high school picks is wrong. This past draft, we traded down because the really great players were no longer available by 19. The upcoming draft will have double the number of great players and double the number of really good players - so we can use second round picks as if they were first round picks, and a first round pick will be the equivalent of a much higher pick in previous drafts. They've been stocking up for a reason.

Calm down and learn to love the team. If you can't, there are 29 other teams out there all looking for more fans to love them. Love a team and enjoy being their fan, or

Spoiler:

just keep on digging your hole deeper.

Straight facts. The FO's only blunder was underselling their #19 pick, but they really have shown they still have a plan and executed it brilliantly based on who's available.

With that said, I am slightly disappointed you didn't go with

Spoiler:

STFU and GTFO.

Instead.

Y’all speeding. Please relax. This is taking a tone past basketball discussion.

Okay, no problem. I was just joking, but I'll tone it down.

[BKlutch]

You're so blinded by your own inner troll that what you write, taken as a whole, makes you look really bad.

1. There is NO surplus of 2nd rounders. It's almost impossible - we could always bundle them into a trade, if we don't want to use them. Also, we could be stocking up for the double draft (see below #4).

2 Judging by what you wrote above, Free Spirit indeed used the word "simp" correctly

3. Cade has proven equally as much as McBride, Grimes, etc. It's all preseason, but lots of very knowledgeable folks love our picks (even our front office, which is highly regarded by most, likes them)

4. The part about the upcoming double draft with high school picks is wrong. This past draft, we traded down because the really great players were no longer available by 19. The upcoming draft will have double the number of great players and double the number of really good players - so we can use second round picks as if they were first round picks, and a first round pick will be the equivalent of a much higher pick in previous drafts. They've been stocking up for a reason.

Calm down and learn to love the team. If you can't, there are 29 other teams out there all looking for more fans to love them. Love a team and enjoy being their fan, or

Spoiler:

just keep on digging your hole deeper.

Straight facts. The FO's only blunder was underselling their #19 pick, but they really have shown they still have a plan and executed it brilliantly based on who's available.

With that said, I am slightly disappointed you didn't go with

Spoiler:

STFU and GTFO.

Instead.

Y’all speeding. Please relax. This is taking a tone past basketball discussion.

[Jalen Bluntson]

You're so blinded by your own inner troll that what you write, taken as a whole, makes you look really bad.

1. There is NO surplus of 2nd rounders. It's almost impossible - we could always bundle them into a trade, if we don't want to use them. Also, we could be stocking up for the double draft (see below #4).

2 Judging by what you wrote above, Free Spirit indeed used the word "simp" correctly

3. Cade has proven equally as much as McBride, Grimes, etc. It's all preseason, but lots of very knowledgeable folks love our picks (even our front office, which is highly regarded by most, likes them)

4. The part about the upcoming double draft with high school picks is wrong. This past draft, we traded down because the really great players were no longer available by 19. The upcoming draft will have double the number of great players and double the number of really good players - so we can use second round picks as if they were first round picks, and a first round pick will be the equivalent of a much higher pick in previous drafts. They've been stocking up for a reason.

Calm down and learn to love the team. If you can't, there are 29 other teams out there all looking for more fans to love them. Love a team and enjoy being their fan, or

Spoiler:

just keep on digging your hole deeper.

Straight facts. The FO's only blunder was underselling their #19 pick, but they really have shown they still have a plan and executed it brilliantly based on who's available.

With that said, I am slightly disappointed you didn't go with

Spoiler:

STFU and GTFO.

Instead.

Y’all speeding. Please relax. This is taking a tone past basketball discussion.

STFU and GTFO?

Too soon?

[Zenzibar]

You're so blinded by your own inner troll that what you write, taken as a whole, makes you look really bad.

1. There is NO surplus of 2nd rounders. It's almost impossible - we could always bundle them into a trade, if we don't want to use them. Also, we could be stocking up for the double draft (see below #4).

2 Judging by what you wrote above, Free Spirit indeed used the word "simp" correctly

3. Cade has proven equally as much as McBride, Grimes, etc. It's all preseason, but lots of very knowledgeable folks love our picks (even our front office, which is highly regarded by most, likes them)

4. The part about the upcoming double draft with high school picks is wrong. This past draft, we traded down because the really great players were no longer available by 19. The upcoming draft will have double the number of great players and double the number of really good players - so we can use second round picks as if they were first round picks, and a first round pick will be the equivalent of a much higher pick in previous drafts. They've been stocking up for a reason.

Calm down and learn to love the team. If you can't, there are 29 other teams out there all looking for more fans to love them. Love a team and enjoy being their fan, or

Spoiler:

just keep on digging your hole deeper.

Straight facts. The FO's only blunder was underselling their #19 pick, but they really have shown they still have a plan and executed it brilliantly based on who's available.

With that said, I am slightly disappointed you didn't go with

Spoiler:

STFU and GTFO.

Instead.

Y’all speeding. Please relax. This is taking a tone past basketball discussion.

You're over-reacting. He put a smiley face and is keeping it light. Let them get off some steam, dont be a wus.
(Smiley face).