Updated salary situation for 2021-2022.

[NBA Sheady]

How the heck is Trent making more than OG over the next few years. Unless he improves significantly, this was an overpay once again.

It's just how contracts work man.

I basically never compare two contracts unless they were signed the same year. Even being under the same CBA seems to be different year to year. A middling player is gifted a contract one year and the next year agents are pointing at it like case law.

[WuTang_CMB]

How the heck is Trent making more than OG over the next few years. Unless he improves significantly, this was an overpay once again.

It's just how contracts work man.

I basically never compare two contracts unless they were signed the same year. Even being under the same CBA seems to be different year to year. A middling player is gifted a contract one year and the next year agents are pointing at it like case law.

He's wrong though. OG is making a little more. And I hope people realize OG should be getting paid $22m/year based on what he brings to the table offensively and defensively. His contract was a mega steal. Another smart deal by Masai

[gp2015]

136 million for a team with no likely all stars and won't make the playoffs.

Not great.

[10giz]

136 million for a team with no likely all stars and won't make the playoffs.

Not great.

This is completely irrelevant. You don't just drop all your contracts just because YOU think we won't make the playoffs. You don't know anything just like none of us do. Assuming you think you know how things will play out - you've already failed.

As if you're anybody to think you know better than literally the most successful franchise in the NBA of the last half decade.

Furthermore, who gives a **** about all-stars? You deem that as team success? What if injuries hit and FVV, Trent and OG get in - does your opinion change?

Stop thinking small scale. Look at the big picture. If you've ever actually had to manage, you'd know you actually have to plan out for 2-5 years ahead.

[Danny1616]

Yay? what exactly are you giving them credit for? Not overpaying anyone on a team that's most likely out of the playoffs? It's not like we have many hot commodities that other franchises are fighting for which we managed to land for a fair price. The only reasonably good contract is OG.

I swear some people just go out of their way to give Masai/bobby praise.

Giving credit for managing assets well, lol.

You think the team is trash, got it. I’m sire you thought the raps were trash in 2017-2018 too. Yet that team had all the pieces it needed to convert to a chip.

Go outta my way to praise Masai? Hardly.. not that that is a bad thing considering that by all accounts, Masai was the most sought after sports exec in the world.. yeah, all those other organizations must not have been able to see Masai for the good that he is, like you have Chandan, kudos to you and your foresight.

I swear, some posters go out of their way to whine bout everything. Who hurt ya’ll? Sorry, I forgot, keep ‘keeping it real’!

Its very confusing praise because we literally lost our entire championship starting lineup for pretty much Precious and Dragic.

I didn't say it's POOR management, it's not great either. just wanted to point out here are definitely some homer's here who have no idea what they are talking about when speaking about asset management. And then having the gull to row his eyes on the topic as if they are onto something, simply laughable.

Sure just let everyone go for nothing, end up not having long term any contracts is a sure fire way to remain flexible

1) Nothing we could do about Kawhi leaving.
2) We let Gasol and Ibaka walk last off-season and were not willing pay them extra to stay. In retrospect it was a good decision as Gasol was unplayable last season and Ibaka just had back surgery and looked to be declining.
3) Danny Green is not worth the 16m that the Lakers offered him in the 2019 off-season. Why would the Raptors overpay for Green when Vanvleet outplayed him in the playoffs?

Are you saying that the 2019-2020 season/playoffs was meaningless? We were within minutes from going to the conference finals. Had Covid-19 not hit our team we would've had the 2nd best record in the East and home court in the 2nd round against the Celtics. Also I doubt Siakam would have been in such a slump had Covid not hit us as well.

Are you suggesting that Masai should have traded Gasol and Ibaka during a season where we were on pace for our best record in franchise history?

Talk about captain hindsight...

[Chandan]

1) Nothing we could do about Kawhi leaving.
2) We let Gasol and Ibaka walk last off-season and were not willing pay them extra to stay. In retrospect it was a good decision as Gasol was unplayable last season and Ibaka just had back surgery and looked to be declining.
3) Danny Green is not worth the 16m that the Lakers offered him in the 2019 off-season. Why would the Raptors overpay for Green when Vanvleet outplayed him in the playoffs?

Are you saying that the 2019-2020 season/playoffs was meaningless? We were within minutes from going to the conference finals. Had Covid-19 not hit our team we would've had the 2nd best record in the East and home court in the 2nd round against the Celtics. Also I doubt Siakam would have been in such a slump had Covid not hit us as well.

Are you suggesting that Masai should have traded Gasol and Ibaka during a season where we were on pace for our best record in franchise history?

Talk about captain hindsight...

1) nothing we could do to convince players to stay
2) standing pat until players decline with age then you could say letting them leave for nothing were great decisions.
3) signing a bunch of obscure player (no one are fighting over) to tradable contracts

If those are the criteria to "great asset management", I would make a great GM as well.

Now, trading lowry for precious is a good move. signing OG to a friendly contract is a good move. But I only give credit when credits are due. I dont think the entire championship core leaving with little in return is an ideal outcome, especially when there's nothing to play for once Kawhi left. 2019 is absolutely meaningless to me.

[Danny1616]

1) Nothing we could do about Kawhi leaving.
2) We let Gasol and Ibaka walk last off-season and were not willing pay them extra to stay. In retrospect it was a good decision as Gasol was unplayable last season and Ibaka just had back surgery and looked to be declining.
3) Danny Green is not worth the 16m that the Lakers offered him in the 2019 off-season. Why would the Raptors overpay for Green when Vanvleet outplayed him in the playoffs?

Are you saying that the 2019-2020 season/playoffs was meaningless? We were within minutes from going to the conference finals. Had Covid-19 not hit our team we would've had the 2nd best record in the East and home court in the 2nd round against the Celtics. Also I doubt Siakam would have been in such a slump had Covid not hit us as well.

Are you suggesting that Masai should have traded Gasol and Ibaka during a season where we were on pace for our best record in franchise history?

Talk about captain hindsight...

1) nothing we could do to convince players to stay
2) standing pat until players decline with age then you could say letting them leave for nothing were great decisions.
3) signing a bunch of obscure player (no one are fighting over) to tradable contracts

If those are the criteria to "great asset management", I would make a great GM as well.

Now, trading lowry for precious is a good move. signing OG to a friendly contract is a good move. But I only give credit when credits are due. I dont think the entire championship core leaving with little in return is an ideal outcome, especially when there's nothing to play for once Kawhi left. 2019 is absolutely meaningless to me.

So your plan was to trade Green before we won the championship, and both Gasol and Ibaka during a season were we had the 2nd best record in the league and were on pace for a franchise record in wins?

Usually teams don't dissemble a squad that is on pace for 60+ wins, but you do you.

With respect to the obscure players, yes the Kawhi situation hurt us a bit. But are you saying that Masai shouldn't have went all in on Kawhi? Kawhi took 2 weeks to make his decision and by that point all the good free agents were gone. However, to say that Masai shouldn't have pursued Kawhi and made his pitch is in my opinion incorrect.

You can play captain hindsight all you want.

[mrdressup]

Siakam owed 1/10th of a billion dollars. oof. No wonder internet access is expensive.

[Morris_Shatford]

Going to toss a sticky on this since there have been so many questions regarding salary and available roster spots.

[ForeverTFC]

1) Nothing we could do about Kawhi leaving.
2) We let Gasol and Ibaka walk last off-season and were not willing pay them extra to stay. In retrospect it was a good decision as Gasol was unplayable last season and Ibaka just had back surgery and looked to be declining.
3) Danny Green is not worth the 16m that the Lakers offered him in the 2019 off-season. Why would the Raptors overpay for Green when Vanvleet outplayed him in the playoffs?

Are you saying that the 2019-2020 season/playoffs was meaningless? We were within minutes from going to the conference finals. Had Covid-19 not hit our team we would've had the 2nd best record in the East and home court in the 2nd round against the Celtics. Also I doubt Siakam would have been in such a slump had Covid not hit us as well.

Are you suggesting that Masai should have traded Gasol and Ibaka during a season where we were on pace for our best record in franchise history?

Talk about captain hindsight...

1) nothing we could do to convince players to stay
2) standing pat until players decline with age then you could say letting them leave for nothing were great decisions.
3) signing a bunch of obscure player (no one are fighting over) to tradable contracts

If those are the criteria to "great asset management", I would make a great GM as well.

Now, trading lowry for precious is a good move. signing OG to a friendly contract is a good move. But I only give credit when credits are due. I dont think the entire championship core leaving with little in return is an ideal outcome, especially when there's nothing to play for once Kawhi left. 2019 is absolutely meaningless to me.

- Siakam and FVV still here
- Unless you wanted Kawhi and Danny traded before we won a chip, nothing to be seen here
- Ibaka and Gasol - we were making max room, just because it didn't work doesn't mean there wasn't reasoning behind it
- Powell = Trent
- Lowry = Precious + Dragic (which could turn into something else as well)

Your claim doesn't make much sense tbh

[gerrit4]

How the heck is Trent making more than OG over the next few years. Unless he improves significantly, this was an overpay once again.

GTJ is getting paid market value. It's actually OG that is significantly underpaid.

He should have entered the free agency market...homeboy would have gotten paid

It's true. But he was coming off a season with very little scoring responsibility, and then this season added 6ppg without sacrificing efficiency.

[Badonkadonk]

136 million for a team with no likely all stars and won't make the playoffs.

Not great.

That number is irrelevant. Currently, there are 0 teams in the NBA that have cap space. One of the designs of the CBA is that it encourages teams to operate in a band that makes the Raps' current number middle-class.

For reference: https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/

(per the asterisk, this includes holds)

[dagger]

136 million for a team with no likely all stars and won't make the playoffs.

Not great.

This is completely irrelevant. You don't just drop all your contracts just because YOU think we won't make the playoffs. You don't know anything just like none of us do. Assuming you think you know how things will play out - you've already failed.

As if you're anybody to think you know better than literally the most successful franchise in the NBA of the last half decade.

Furthermore, who gives a **** about all-stars? You deem that as team success? What if injuries hit and FVV, Trent and OG get in - does your opinion change?

Stop thinking small scale. Look at the big picture. If you've ever actually had to manage, you'd know you actually have to plan out for 2-5 years ahead.

There is also a high salary floor, and if you don't reach it, you pay the difference to all of your players, in cash. So a team might as well take some flyers in case a player develops, adds value, and can be packaged in a deal later, or breaks out and helps you make the playoffs.

[PT416]

Masai's belief in Siakam put us in a bit of a hole even with the Kawhi/PG stuff but it's hard to complain when he brought us a chip. How can you be mad at a GM who did that. Hopefully Siakam can improve one last time and we can sell high on him next time another disgruntled superstar is available for a year.

[bluerap23]

136 million for a team with no likely all stars and won't make the playoffs.

Not great.

This is completely irrelevant. You don't just drop all your contracts just because YOU think we won't make the playoffs. You don't know anything just like none of us do. Assuming you think you know how things will play out - you've already failed.

As if you're anybody to think you know better than literally the most successful franchise in the NBA of the last half decade.

Furthermore, who gives a **** about all-stars? You deem that as team success? What if injuries hit and FVV, Trent and OG get in - does your opinion change?

Stop thinking small scale. Look at the big picture. If you've ever actually had to manage, you'd know you actually have to plan out for 2-5 years ahead.

There is also a high salary floor, and if you don't reach it, you pay the difference to all of your players, in cash. So a team might as well take some flyers in case a player develops, adds value, and can be packaged in a deal later, or breaks out and helps you make the playoffs.

Yes it is a use it or lose it situation. Dragic is now a place holder in the hopes that we can trade his expiring deal plus other assets for a long-term rotation piece.

[OAKLEY_2]

Not a single untradable contract.

What poor asset management…

Yay? what exactly are you giving them credit for? Not overpaying anyone on a team that's most likely out of the playoffs? It's not like we have many hot commodities that other franchises are fighting for which we managed to land for a fair price. The only reasonably good contract is OG.

I swear some people just go out of their way to give Masai/bobby praise.

Or some people go out on a limb to play the role of perrenial Jackass.

[Indeed]

It's just how contracts work man.

I basically never compare two contracts unless they were signed the same year. Even being under the same CBA seems to be different year to year. A middling player is gifted a contract one year and the next year agents are pointing at it like case law.

He's wrong though. OG is making a little more. And I hope people realize OG should be getting paid $22m/year based on what he brings to the table offensively and defensively. His contract was a mega steal. Another smart deal by Masai

What about Powell contract? They all start at the same year:
Powell gets: 15.5m, 16.8m, 18m, 19.2m, 20.5m
Trent gets: 16m, 17.3m, 18.6m
OG gets: 16.1m, 17.4m, 18.6m, 20m

I don't see Trent being as good as Powell / OG, but making basically the same.

[WuTang_CMB]

I basically never compare two contracts unless they were signed the same year. Even being under the same CBA seems to be different year to year. A middling player is gifted a contract one year and the next year agents are pointing at it like case law.

He's wrong though. OG is making a little more. And I hope people realize OG should be getting paid $22m/year based on what he brings to the table offensively and defensively. His contract was a mega steal. Another smart deal by Masai

What about Powell contract? They all start at the same year:
Powell gets: 15.5m, 16.8m, 18m, 19.2m, 20.5m
Trent gets: 16m, 17.3m, 18.6m
OG gets: 16.1m, 17.4m, 18.6m, 20m

I don't see Trent being as good as Powell / OG, but making basically the same.

Trent will be better than Powell. OG is better than powell today based on his elite defense and likely the bump to 17-18/ game this year on better percentages.

[gp2015]

He's wrong though. OG is making a little more. And I hope people realize OG should be getting paid $22m/year based on what he brings to the table offensively and defensively. His contract was a mega steal. Another smart deal by Masai

What about Powell contract? They all start at the same year:
Powell gets: 15.5m, 16.8m, 18m, 19.2m, 20.5m
Trent gets: 16m, 17.3m, 18.6m
OG gets: 16.1m, 17.4m, 18.6m, 20m

I don't see Trent being as good as Powell / OG, but making basically the same.

Trent will be better than Powell. OG is better than powell today based on his elite defense and likely the bump to 17-18/ game this year on better percentages.

What makes you think that? Powell developed into one of our most consistent/efficient shooters during his last couple of seasons here and Trent has been the complete opposite of that so far. Of course, Powell struggled with the same thing when he was younger, like Trent is now but there is nothing to suggest that Trent will be improved in those areas yet. OG has an advantage in that he is an elite defender, which Trent is neither.

[Indeed]

What about Powell contract? They all start at the same year:
Powell gets: 15.5m, 16.8m, 18m, 19.2m, 20.5m
Trent gets: 16m, 17.3m, 18.6m
OG gets: 16.1m, 17.4m, 18.6m, 20m

I don't see Trent being as good as Powell / OG, but making basically the same.

Trent will be better than Powell. OG is better than powell today based on his elite defense and likely the bump to 17-18/ game this year on better percentages.

What makes you think that? Powell developed into one of our most consistent/efficient shooters during his last couple of seasons here and Trent has been the complete opposite of that so far. Of course, Powell struggled with the same thing when he was younger, like Trent is now but there is nothing to suggest that Trent will be improved in those areas yet. OG has an advantage in that he is an elite defender, which Trent is neither.

Indeed, I don't see how Trent is better than Powell.
Shooting wise, they are similar as a movement shooter, and passing wise, they are both below average passer with lack of vision, which I don't see neither will improve on that.

Even Trent improves his defense from below average to average, which is no where better than Powell, as Powell is an average defender and above average man defender. Trent doesn't have the quickness to be a plus defender, neither big enough to fully guard SF. I don't see how Trent is better than Powell.

I see Trent like Ross, who can net us Ibaka, while some playoff teams may want to get more immediate shooting with Trent and or Boucher.