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It's staggering how asinine our society has become in a relatively short period of time. And no, I don't mean "the last 4.5 years", but it's not a much longer than that. Maybe 20.


Guy (another former NYer, now morphed into Florida man) told me the other day that there is no such thing as being asymptomatic, i.e. if you’re sick you’re sick, if there are no symptoms you are not infected. I said, “What about Typhoid Mary?” And they dead eye me “Who?” And I’m “oh just the most famous case in American history of an asymptomatic carrier infecting a whole city.” Derp


The internet gives people access to more information than ever before in human existence and yet so many people are basically functionally ret*rded. It's amazing.

I'm sure this has been written about a lot. I'd assume too much information is overwhelming to people and then it's easier to retreat into a pocket of warm and fuzzies. Why educate yourself when you can masturbate yourself?


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1 pick away from a draft of Murphy,Grimes,McBride,sims!!!!!!!

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Seems like the Knicks had intel before hand and knew this was gonna happen
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TheGreenArrow wrote:
Kampuchea wrote:FIRST TEAM
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1 pick away from a draft of Murphy,Grimes,McBride,sims!!!!!!!

Man…….
We could have had Jalen johnson Mcbride Grimms Simms

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Jimmit79 wrote:
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Kampuchea wrote:FIRST TEAM
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1 pick away from a draft of Murphy,Grimes,McBride,sims!!!!!!!

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We could have had Jalen johnson Mcbride Grimms Simms

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I don’t see the fit with Jalen Johnson but that would have been awesome as well!!!!!
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1 pick away from a draft of Murphy,Grimes,McBride,sims!!!!!!!

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We could have had Jalen johnson Mcbride Grimms Simms

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I don’t see the fit with Jalen Johnson but that would have been awesome as well!!!!!

I’m surprised you’re not upset we passed up the generational talent jt thor
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Jimmit79 wrote:We could have had Jalen johnson Mcbride Grimms Simms

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I don’t see the fit with Jalen Johnson but that would have been awesome as well!!!!!

I’m surprised you’re not upset we passed up the generational talent jt thor


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Unfortunately It just wasn’t meant to be!!!!!
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Post#192 » by Nazrmohamed » Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:38 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:
Kampuchea wrote:FIRST TEAM
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1 pick away from a draft of Murphy,Grimes,McBride,sims!!!!!!!

Man…….


Yeah but you know, future second round/ maybe 1st round if they convey picks in weaker drafts are way more important bro. Where you been at?

I'd even argue that Kai Jones, while not as polished as say a Grimes, wasn't as raw as advertised and looks like he was oozing with potential. Could've stayed at 21 and nabbed him.

We got nba ready polished rookies so they can sit behind Rose and Burkes anyway. I mean, we spoke of not wanting to waste our time on potential like we were instead gonna play Grimes 20 minutes a game.
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Post#193 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:05 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
HerSports85 wrote:
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Seems like the Knicks had intel before hand and knew this was gonna happen


The plan looks a lot better now.
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Post#194 » by TheGreenArrow » Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:11 pm

Nazrmohamed wrote:
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Kampuchea wrote:FIRST TEAM
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1 pick away from a draft of Murphy,Grimes,McBride,sims!!!!!!!

Man…….


Yeah but you know, future second round/ maybe 1st round if they convey picks in weaker drafts are way more important bro. Where you been at?

I'd even argue that Kai Jones, while not as polished as say a Grimes, wasn't as raw as advertised and looks like he was oozing with potential. Could've stayed at 21 and nabbed him.

We got nba ready polished rookies so they can sit behind Rose and Burkes anyway. I mean, we spoke of not wanting to waste our time on potential like we were instead gonna play Grimes 20 minutes a game.


I hear you but…..

You don’t think Grimes and McBride have loads of potential???!!!

I do!!!!

They both just turned 21!!!!!
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Post#195 » by cgmw » Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:34 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
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Read on Twitter

Seems like the Knicks had intel before hand and knew this was gonna happen


The plan looks a lot better now.

Yes but the problem still remains that the Knicks as a franchise have painted themselves into a corner with TRADE as the one and only one teambuilding strategy available (assuming all championships are built around a top 5 superstar or three).

Free Agency isn't what it used to be before the recent era of "player empowerment" and stars demanding trades years before their contracts finish. While it's nice to have the option to sign a major "max cat" it's now highly unlikely that one will ever come available unless he's already pre-determined that he wants to join your team. Between collusion, tampering, player empowerment, and the Knicks negative reputation it's just not realistic to build around recruitment in Free Agency.

I like what Leon is doing because he's making the most of the one path available to him, which is to teambuild around a strong coach and veteran B-level stars, while hoarding as many trade assets as possible. It's a highly limited method, but it's the best any Knick executive under Dolan can do since the draft and now Free Agency are not options to acquire a superstar.
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Post#196 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:06 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Seems like the Knicks had intel before hand and knew this was gonna happen


The plan looks a lot better now.

Yes but the problem still remains that the Knicks as a franchise have painted themselves into a corner with TRADE as the one and only one teambuilding strategy available (assuming all championships are built around a top 5 superstar or three).

Free Agency isn't what it used to be before the recent era of "player empowerment" and stars demanding trades years before their contracts finish. While it's nice to have the option to sign a major "max cat" it's now highly unlikely that one will ever come available unless he's already pre-determined that he wants to join your team. Between collusion, tampering, player empowerment, and the Knicks negative reputation it's just not realistic to build around recruitment in Free Agency.

I like what Leon is doing because he's making the most of the one path available to him, which is to teambuild around a strong coach and veteran B-level stars, while hoarding as many trade assets as possible. It's a highly limited method, but it's the best any Knick executive under Dolan can do since the draft and now Free Agency are not options to acquire a superstar.


I think the Knicks could still be position for free agency too. A lot of free agents are signed and traded anyway and the Knicks have some short term deals they could use to pull it off. Typically a free agent will have their mind made up and if both the team and player want to make it happen they will find a way if they are close. Kinda like how Miami are always in position and signing players every year. Even the Nets pulled off some moves to make it work at the last minute.

Free agency still seems like a long shot overall...but if a top free agent really wants to come I think we could make it work. The tough part is convincing the top free agents/superstars to come here.
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Post#197 » by prophet_of_rage » Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:12 pm

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It's staggering how asinine our society has become in a relatively short period of time. And no, I don't mean "the last 4.5 years", but it's not a much longer than that. Maybe 20.


Guy (another former NYer, now morphed into Florida man) told me the other day that there is no such thing as being asymptomatic, i.e. if you’re sick you’re sick, if there are no symptoms you are not infected. I said, “What about Typhoid Mary?” And they dead eye me “Who?” And I’m “oh just the most famous case in American history of an asymptomatic carrier infecting a whole city.” Derp


The internet gives people access to more information than ever before in human existence and yet so many people are basically functionally ret*rded. It's amazing.

I'm sure this has been written about a lot. I'd assume too much information is overwhelming to people and then it's easier to retreat into a pocket of warm and fuzzies. Why educate yourself when you can masturbate yourself?
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Post#198 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:14 pm

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The plan looks a lot better now.

Yes but the problem still remains that the Knicks as a franchise have painted themselves into a corner with TRADE as the one and only one teambuilding strategy available (assuming all championships are built around a top 5 superstar or three).

Free Agency isn't what it used to be before the recent era of "player empowerment" and stars demanding trades years before their contracts finish. While it's nice to have the option to sign a major "max cat" it's now highly unlikely that one will ever come available unless he's already pre-determined that he wants to join your team. Between collusion, tampering, player empowerment, and the Knicks negative reputation it's just not realistic to build around recruitment in Free Agency.

I like what Leon is doing because he's making the most of the one path available to him, which is to teambuild around a strong coach and veteran B-level stars, while hoarding as many trade assets as possible. It's a highly limited method, but it's the best any Knick executive under Dolan can do since the draft and now Free Agency are not options to acquire a superstar.


I think the Knicks could still be position for free agency too. A lot of free agents are signed and traded anyway and the Knicks have some short term deals they could use to pull it off. Typically a free agent will have their mind made up and if both the team and player want to make it happen they will find a way if they are close. Kinda like how Miami are always in position and signing players every year. Even the Nets pulled off some moves to make it work at the last minute.

Free agency still seems like a long shot overall...but if a top free agent really wants to come I think we could make it work. The tough part is convincing the top free agents/superstars to come here.


Macri & Cohen have this take as well and I agree with it. In effect always kicking the salary cap down the road presents dangers and it's actually better to have some good but decent contracts because most stuff happens via trade. I'm not agreeing because I want to say the Knicks got the offseason perfect etc - they didn't, but they had a case for the logic. Then Macri did a podcast with some UK Celtic podcast guy, and that guy said the same thing about the Celtics, that he had some concerns they were painting themselves into a corner in a way the Knicks would have if the Knicks rolled it over again - basically a timing thing around when your other own players are due.
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Post#199 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:24 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
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cgmw wrote:Yes but the problem still remains that the Knicks as a franchise have painted themselves into a corner with TRADE as the one and only one teambuilding strategy available (assuming all championships are built around a top 5 superstar or three).

Free Agency isn't what it used to be before the recent era of "player empowerment" and stars demanding trades years before their contracts finish. While it's nice to have the option to sign a major "max cat" it's now highly unlikely that one will ever come available unless he's already pre-determined that he wants to join your team. Between collusion, tampering, player empowerment, and the Knicks negative reputation it's just not realistic to build around recruitment in Free Agency.

I like what Leon is doing because he's making the most of the one path available to him, which is to teambuild around a strong coach and veteran B-level stars, while hoarding as many trade assets as possible. It's a highly limited method, but it's the best any Knick executive under Dolan can do since the draft and now Free Agency are not options to acquire a superstar.


I think the Knicks could still be position for free agency too. A lot of free agents are signed and traded anyway and the Knicks have some short term deals they could use to pull it off. Typically a free agent will have their mind made up and if both the team and player want to make it happen they will find a way if they are close. Kinda like how Miami are always in position and signing players every year. Even the Nets pulled off some moves to make it work at the last minute.

Free agency still seems like a long shot overall...but if a top free agent really wants to come I think we could make it work. The tough part is convincing the top free agents/superstars to come here.


Macri & Cohen have this take as well and I agree with it. In effect always kicking the salary cap down the road presents dangers and it's actually better to have some good but decent contracts because most stuff happens via trade. I'm not agreeing because I want to say the Knicks got the offseason perfect etc - they didn't, but they had a case for the logic. Then Macri did a podcast with some UK Celtic podcast guy, and that guy said the same thing about the Celtics, that he had some concerns they were painting themselves into a corner in a way the Knicks would have if the Knicks rolled it over again - basically a timing thing around when your other own players are due.


They basically got Randle to re-up on a fair deal and did not max anyone. All of their deals are moveable. This is exactly what they’re doing while also allowing for the possibility that the players they now have develop the kind of chemistry where the sum is greater than the parts. With an amazing draft they’ve increased their asset base without being locked in to untradeable contracts and have some youth of value finally. It’s a win-win approach unless multiple guys play below expectations which I doubt considering how many guys exceeded expectations last year. They will have the assets to engineer a deal for a # 1 player IF one of them want to come here. If we keep trending upwards it is just a matter of time that a Top 10 player decides they want to be a Knick which then gives us some kind of leverage to make a respectable trade offer without getting fleeced.
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Post#200 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:31 pm

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Guy (another former NYer, now morphed into Florida man) told me the other day that there is no such thing as being asymptomatic, i.e. if you’re sick you’re sick, if there are no symptoms you are not infected. I said, “What about Typhoid Mary?” And they dead eye me “Who?” And I’m “oh just the most famous case in American history of an asymptomatic carrier infecting a whole city.” Derp


The internet gives people access to more information than ever before in human existence and yet so many people are basically functionally ret*rded. It's amazing.

I'm sure this has been written about a lot. I'd assume too much information is overwhelming to people and then it's easier to retreat into a pocket of warm and fuzzies. Why educate yourself when you can masturbate yourself?
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