Tokyo Drift: The Mason Plumlee Thread

[BigSlam]

The only question is would we have been better off taking the Favors + 30th pick for a fake second deal rather than the Plumlee one?

It’s an interesting question.

Favor’s contact is a couple mil more expensive.
Favor’s isn’t as athletic.
Favor’s hasn’t shown the passing ability.
Favor’s got the Thunder a future 1st round draft pick, not the #30 this year.

I think Plumlee is the much better fit, so I’d stick with the trade we did.

[Chapelchilla]

I am fine with Plumlee for a couple of years. The dude is actually at least average most nights, sometimes actually good and has the meat we have been lacking down low. Not a star type but I dont think we had to have a star C right now with our style of play. Hopefully that is Kai in a couple of years when he gets his man strength.

[Benjamin Linus]

Per 36

M. Plumlee - 14.0 pts, 12.5 rebs, 4.9 asts, 1.2 blks on 61.4 fg%
Myles Turner - 14.6 pts, 7.6 rebs, 1.2 asts, 3.9 blks on 47.7 fg%

Turner would have cost us PJ and the 11th pick. Plumlee netted us the 37th pick and also makes about 10 million less per season, plus we don't have to worry about resigning him to a huge deal in two years like we would with Turner

[euphorbus]

Although my initial reaction was negative, he actually had the best defensive advanced metrics on the Pistons last year, besides being far and away their best rebounder. His TS% was a very respectable .638, according to Basketball Reference.

[HornetJail]

I didn't realize Plumlee was the same age as Hayward... i thought he was closer to 28-29, not 31

but yeah I'm ok with the move. That's it. He is a decent fit but it was a no-risk, low-reward move as an option at C that we got for free while Kai develops. It's ok but simply a modest upgrade over Zeller. Can't lie, I'm kinda disappointed if he's our main "win now" guy at C for the next two years trying to build something on Hayward's timeline.

[yosemiteben]

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[JMAC3]

Even though he can't shoot from outside, he can still operate as a stretch 5 because of his passing. If he is at top of the key the other team has to bring their big up to prevent Rozier and Hayward from getting easy dribble hand off threes with Plumlee man sunk into the paint.

Like his fit with Miles in the fact that it will open up a lot of driving and cut lanes around the basket.

[Snidely FC]

He is the only physical player on the roster

[CuseMayne]

He is the only physical player on the roster

Very good observation...I am cautiously optimistic that he is an upgrade over Zeller but only time will tell. The playmaking that he is capable of may very well make for a fun as hell offense for us this year.

[CuseMayne]

Plus it was such a damn good trade by Mitch on draft night...I'd definitely put him as comparable to Daniel Theis, but we got him on a short-term, super reasonable contract that, in the big picture, will be remembered as a super solid stopgap for our long-term answer at C as we continue to improve at the macro level.

[Snidely FC]

complimentary piece on Plumlee
https://www.nba.com/hornets/mason-plumlee-passing-big-man-hornets-needed?fbclid=IwAR06emU5XGopK5hocRpUaNvyjjVIxAFdJlDaP4umh0R0cTT3nQAbNIZP1RE

[yosemiteben]

This seems like the most compelling reason to go with Plumlee -

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[CuseMayne]

I think Plumlee will be solid for us next year. The problem is that there are still a lot of C minutes that need to be filled, and our C depth chart is suspect. Can't even imagine what it'd look like if Plumlee went down for any amount of time.

[yosemiteben]

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[fatlever]

we need to discuss the elephant in the room...

mason isnt helping. his size isnt helping us on the glass or protecting the paint. his passing is nice. but not really moving the needle. he cant shoot free throws. he isnt good scorer in the paint outside of uncontested dunks. teams just foul him and put him on the line.

i was fairly thrilled with the trade to land him, but really only makes sense as a backup.

sadly pj is just too small to start vs many centers, especially next to miles at pf.

needless to say, im pretty disappointed in his contribution. i pegged him as a clear upgrade to zeller and biz, but frankly, i think he's in same tier as those 2, backup quality. zeller at least was better scorer, equal screener, better defender in space.

its been far too long since this team had a legit starting center on the roster.

[SWedd523]

We've been talking about this ever since Okafor. They haven't had a true, quality starting Center for more than a couple of seasons here-and-there in Horncats 2.0 history.

Everybody bitches about the price it takes to sign or trade for one, and nobody wants to draft one (because Centers aren't important ****). And then the season plays out and they're constantly bodied in the paint.

It's a vicious cycle.

[JDR720]

He's a better rebounder and healthier than Cody, but besides that Cody is better than he is.

He'd be an ideal backup center. Lower end starting center though.

Still happy with the trade since we got him for nothing.

[fatlever]

he might be better at grabbing contested rebounds in traffic than cody or off reb, but cody never got credit for being great at boxing out, keeping his man off the glass. cody was our center for some of the clifford teams that led the league in def reb %.

its fair to ask if scheme is partly to blame for our def rebounding problems.