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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#221 » by Oscirus » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:44 am

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Oscirus wrote:
FreeSpiritNY wrote:
You do realize McBride, Robinson & sims are all second rounders. Not to mention quickley was considered a 2nd rounder but the Knicks didn’t want to take a chance losing him.

2nd rounder are becoming the thing of the future. Low guaranteed money and you get players who won’t be start but who can contribute. Although McBride has a lot of potential to be specials.

You don’t worry about what you enemy is doing you worry about yourself. Because just like they made a move we did to. You’ll see in a year when those second rounder are going to be amazing when the age is back to 18


Mcbride and sims have proven jack **** yet and robinson is on his way out. Could we hit the lottery and get a jokic with that bad 2nd rounder that we just got? Sure. Is it likely? Nope.
The so-called high school draft means **** all to a front office that doesnt draft young players, even less to a team that has multiple picks in said draft already.

All these stupid trades we keep making manage to do is pick up bad assets in a trade for a future star that other teams clearly wont be interested in.

You're so blinded by your own inner troll that what you write, taken as a whole, makes you look really bad.

1. There is NO surplus of 2nd rounders. It's almost impossible - we could always bundle them into a trade, if we don't want to use them. Also, we could be stocking up for the double draft (see below #4).

2 Judging by what you wrote above, Free Spirit indeed used the word "simp" correctly

3. Cade has proven equally as much as McBride, Grimes, etc. It's all preseason, but lots of very knowledgeable folks love our picks (even our front office, which is highly regarded by most, likes them)

4. The part about the upcoming double draft with high school picks is wrong. This past draft, we traded down because the really great players were no longer available by 19. The upcoming draft will have double the number of great players and double the number of really good players - so we can use second round picks as if they were first round picks, and a first round pick will be the equivalent of a much higher pick in previous drafts. They've been stocking up for a reason.

Calm down and learn to love the team. If you can't, there are 29 other teams out there all looking for more fans to love them. Love a team and enjoy being their fan, or

Spoiler:
just keep on digging your hole deeper.

Not only does this genius misuse the term simp like the previous poster but doubles down on the stupidity by misusing the term troll as well great job.

Nobody wants your dumb ass 2nd round picks. It legit took 32 and 34 to move up 2 spots.

Speaking of Cade didnt Cade make mcbride his bitch in one summer league game? I guess I should follow your lead and write him off now. Im sure you can back up your statement that most people highly regarded our draft and that you're not just pulling such a statement out of your ass.

NTY how about this I'll continue challenging the Knicks when they make a questionable move and you can continue being the low quality fan that justifies the bull that the front office does no matter how stupid it is. Fans like you is the reason why Dolan gets away with the bull he pulls.

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Wipe that brown stuff off of your nose.
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#222 » by FreeSpiritNY » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:20 am

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BKlutch wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
Mcbride and sims have proven jack **** yet and robinson is on his way out. Could we hit the lottery and get a jokic with that bad 2nd rounder that we just got? Sure. Is it likely? Nope.
The so-called high school draft means **** all to a front office that doesnt draft young players, even less to a team that has multiple picks in said draft already.

All these stupid trades we keep making manage to do is pick up bad assets in a trade for a future star that other teams clearly wont be interested in.

You're so blinded by your own inner troll that what you write, taken as a whole, makes you look really bad.

1. There is NO surplus of 2nd rounders. It's almost impossible - we could always bundle them into a trade, if we don't want to use them. Also, we could be stocking up for the double draft (see below #4).

2 Judging by what you wrote above, Free Spirit indeed used the word "simp" correctly

3. Cade has proven equally as much as McBride, Grimes, etc. It's all preseason, but lots of very knowledgeable folks love our picks (even our front office, which is highly regarded by most, likes them)

4. The part about the upcoming double draft with high school picks is wrong. This past draft, we traded down because the really great players were no longer available by 19. The upcoming draft will have double the number of great players and double the number of really good players - so we can use second round picks as if they were first round picks, and a first round pick will be the equivalent of a much higher pick in previous drafts. They've been stocking up for a reason.

Calm down and learn to love the team. If you can't, there are 29 other teams out there all looking for more fans to love them. Love a team and enjoy being their fan, or

Spoiler:
just keep on digging your hole deeper.

Not only does this genius misuse the term simp like the previous poster but doubles down on the stupidity by misusing the term troll as well great job.

Nobody wants your dumb ass 2nd round picks. It legit took 32 and 34 to move up 2 spots.

Speaking of Cade didnt Cade make mcbride his bitch in one summer league game? I guess I should follow your lead and write him off now. Im sure you can back up your statement that most people highly regarded our draft and that you're not just pulling such a statement out of your ass.

NTY how about this I'll continue challenging the Knicks when they make a questionable move and you can continue being the low quality fan that justifies the bull that the front office does no matter how stupid it is. Fans like you is the reason why Dolan gets away with the bull he pulls.

Spoiler:
Wipe that brown stuff off of your nose.



Maybe you should learn to read. :lol: :lol: :lol: I WROTE SIMS WITH A S. “ a player we drafted” Get off the Porn site’s and go to school kid. learn how to read. I never wrote or said simp once. But it’s funny you just let everyone know your fetish of being a SIMP You know the last player we drafted. His last name is sims. Do you even know the Knicks roster? Also McBride wasn’t guarding Cade. ALSO FYI McBride and grimes had a better summer league than cade in every single stat.

Frank and Knox <—- first rounders really panned out well. 8-) :noway:



FYI FOURNEIR WAS TRADED FOR A SECOND ROUND PICK THIS PAST TRADE DEADLINE. :lol:

DO YOU KNOW WHAT DRAYMOND GREEN And DILLON BROOKS have in common? Players drafted in the second round

Btw it’s easy math more players entering a draft = a more diluted draft with more talent. Which pushes back talent in the draft. Also you can pay them lower amount snd not fully guaranteed money. There better then 1st round picks. Because we just laid like 15 million a year for frank and Knox to suck

Your batting 1000% of cracking me up though.

Thanks for the laugh though. I wish you the best because it looks like you need some help. God bless.
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#223 » by FKF » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:27 am

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Good stuff. Anything that makes ESPN less relevant is fine by me. For the fans, by the fans.


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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#224 » by Oscirus » Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:02 pm

FreeSpiritNY wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
BKlutch wrote:You're so blinded by your own inner troll that what you write, taken as a whole, makes you look really bad.

1. There is NO surplus of 2nd rounders. It's almost impossible - we could always bundle them into a trade, if we don't want to use them. Also, we could be stocking up for the double draft (see below #4).

2 Judging by what you wrote above, Free Spirit indeed used the word "simp" correctly

3. Cade has proven equally as much as McBride, Grimes, etc. It's all preseason, but lots of very knowledgeable folks love our picks (even our front office, which is highly regarded by most, likes them)

4. The part about the upcoming double draft with high school picks is wrong. This past draft, we traded down because the really great players were no longer available by 19. The upcoming draft will have double the number of great players and double the number of really good players - so we can use second round picks as if they were first round picks, and a first round pick will be the equivalent of a much higher pick in previous drafts. They've been stocking up for a reason.

Calm down and learn to love the team. If you can't, there are 29 other teams out there all looking for more fans to love them. Love a team and enjoy being their fan, or

Spoiler:
just keep on digging your hole deeper.

Not only does this genius misuse the term simp like the previous poster but doubles down on the stupidity by misusing the term troll as well great job.

Nobody wants your dumb ass 2nd round picks. It legit took 32 and 34 to move up 2 spots.

Speaking of Cade didnt Cade make mcbride his bitch in one summer league game? I guess I should follow your lead and write him off now. Im sure you can back up your statement that most people highly regarded our draft and that you're not just pulling such a statement out of your ass.

NTY how about this I'll continue challenging the Knicks when they make a questionable move and you can continue being the low quality fan that justifies the bull that the front office does no matter how stupid it is. Fans like you is the reason why Dolan gets away with the bull he pulls.

Spoiler:
Wipe that brown stuff off of your nose.



Maybe you should learn to read. :lol: :lol: :lol: I WROTE SIMS WITH A S. “ a player we drafted” Get off the Porn site’s and go to school kid. learn how to read. I never wrote or said simp once. But it’s funny you just let everyone know your fetish of being a SIMP You know the last player we drafted. His last name is sims. Do you even know the Knicks roster? Also McBride wasn’t guarding Cade. ALSO FYI McBride and grimes had a better summer league than cade in every single stat.

Frank and Knox <—- first rounders really panned out well. 8-) :noway:



FYI FOURNEIR WAS TRADED FOR A SECOND ROUND PICK THIS PAST TRADE DEADLINE. :lol:

DO YOU KNOW WHAT DRAYMOND GREEN And DILLON BROOKS have in common? Players drafted in the second round

Btw it’s easy math more players entering a draft = a more diluted draft with more talent. Which pushes back talent in the draft. Also you can pay them lower amount snd not fully guaranteed money. There better then 1st round picks. Because we just laid like 15 million a year for frank and Knox to suck

Your batting 1000% of cracking me up though.

Thanks for the laugh though. I wish you the best because it looks like you need some help. God bless.


Did I say that you used the word simp? Nope that was the poster I was responding to you who said that. So perhaps you're who should learn how to read so you can respond to the correct person next time with such issues.

I said they suck at drafting in the first round when answering a previous question you asked. No idea why you'd think they'd be better at drafting in the 2nd since thats the case, but wutevs, you do you.

Now go ahead and tell me how many stars were traded for 2nd rounders in the past let's say 5 years. I'll wait.

lol you picked dillon brooks over nikola jokic, regardless rare occurrences are rare. Tom Brady is a hall of fame qb, but Im not gonna support the jets stockpiling fourths cuz thats where he was drafted.
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#225 » by BKlutch » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:20 pm

Oscirus wrote:
BKlutch wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
Mcbride and sims have proven jack **** yet and robinson is on his way out. Could we hit the lottery and get a jokic with that bad 2nd rounder that we just got? Sure. Is it likely? Nope.
The so-called high school draft means **** all to a front office that doesnt draft young players, even less to a team that has multiple picks in said draft already.

All these stupid trades we keep making manage to do is pick up bad assets in a trade for a future star that other teams clearly wont be interested in.

You're so blinded by your own inner troll that what you write, taken as a whole, makes you look really bad.

1. There is NO surplus of 2nd rounders. It's almost impossible - we could always bundle them into a trade, if we don't want to use them. Also, we could be stocking up for the double draft (see below #4).

2 Judging by what you wrote above, Free Spirit indeed used the word "simp" correctly

3. Cade has proven equally as much as McBride, Grimes, etc. It's all preseason, but lots of very knowledgeable folks love our picks (even our front office, which is highly regarded by most, likes them)

4. The part about the upcoming double draft with high school picks is wrong. This past draft, we traded down because the really great players were no longer available by 19. The upcoming draft will have double the number of great players and double the number of really good players - so we can use second round picks as if they were first round picks, and a first round pick will be the equivalent of a much higher pick in previous drafts. They've been stocking up for a reason.

Calm down and learn to love the team. If you can't, there are 29 other teams out there all looking for more fans to love them. Love a team and enjoy being their fan, or

Spoiler:
just keep on digging your hole deeper.

Not only does this genius misuse the term simp like the previous poster but doubles down on the stupidity by misusing the term troll as well great job.

Nobody wants your dumb ass 2nd round picks. It legit took 32 and 34 to move up 2 spots.

Speaking of Cade didnt Cade make mcbride his bitch in one summer league game? I guess I should follow your lead and write him off now. Im sure you can back up your statement that most people highly regarded our draft and that you're not just pulling such a statement out of your ass.

NTY how about this I'll continue challenging the Knicks when they make a questionable move and you can continue being the low quality fan that justifies the bull that the front office does no matter how stupid it is. Fans like you is the reason why Dolan gets away with the bull he pulls.

Spoiler:

Wipe that brown stuff off of your nose.


I have no idea how you expect someone to debate the basketball issues with you when you write these things, but I'm not going down that rabbit hole. This kind of comment is not at all conducive to furthering what could have been an interesting discussion.
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#226 » by BKlutch » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:29 pm

Oscirus wrote:
FreeSpiritNY wrote:
Oscirus wrote:Not only does this genius misuse the term simp like the previous poster but doubles down on the stupidity by misusing the term troll as well great job.

Nobody wants your dumb ass 2nd round picks. It legit took 32 and 34 to move up 2 spots.

Speaking of Cade didnt Cade make mcbride his bitch in one summer league game? I guess I should follow your lead and write him off now. Im sure you can back up your statement that most people highly regarded our draft and that you're not just pulling such a statement out of your ass.

NTY how about this I'll continue challenging the Knicks when they make a questionable move and you can continue being the low quality fan that justifies the bull that the front office does no matter how stupid it is. Fans like you is the reason why Dolan gets away with the bull he pulls.

Spoiler:
Wipe that brown stuff off of your nose.



Maybe you should learn to read. :lol: :lol: :lol: I WROTE SIMS WITH A S. “ a player we drafted” Get off the Porn site’s and go to school kid. learn how to read. I never wrote or said simp once. But it’s funny you just let everyone know your fetish of being a SIMP You know the last player we drafted. His last name is sims. Do you even know the Knicks roster? Also McBride wasn’t guarding Cade. ALSO FYI McBride and grimes had a better summer league than cade in every single stat.

Frank and Knox <—- first rounders really panned out well. 8-) :noway:



FYI FOURNEIR WAS TRADED FOR A SECOND ROUND PICK THIS PAST TRADE DEADLINE. :lol:

DO YOU KNOW WHAT DRAYMOND GREEN And DILLON BROOKS have in common? Players drafted in the second round

Btw it’s easy math more players entering a draft = a more diluted draft with more talent. Which pushes back talent in the draft. Also you can pay them lower amount snd not fully guaranteed money. There better then 1st round picks. Because we just laid like 15 million a year for frank and Knox to suck

Your batting 1000% of cracking me up though.

Thanks for the laugh though. I wish you the best because it looks like you need some help. God bless.


Did I say that you used the word simp? Nope that was the poster I was responding to you who said that. So perhaps you're who should learn how to read so you can respond to the correct person next time with such issues.

I said they suck at drafting in the first round when answering a previous question you asked. No idea why you'd think they'd be better at drafting in the 2nd since thats the case, but wutevs, you do you.

Now go ahead and tell me how many stars were traded for 2nd rounders in the past let's say 5 years. I'll wait.

lol you picked dillon brooks over nikola jokic, regardless rare occurrences are rare. Tom Brady is a hall of fame qb, but Im not gonna support the jets stockpiling fourths cuz thats where he was drafted.

Neither Free Spirit nor I called anyone a simp — another poster used that word. Oscirus then said it was used incorrectly, and I noted that it was a correct usage of the term, according to the dictionary. Whether that poster was correct or not is a separate matter.

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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#227 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:42 pm

Someone compared him to THJr and I thought that was wrong, but it's not the worst comp, in terms of talent.

I think Fournier is a little more talented - not wildly so, but edge just on talent.

Then, I prefer Fournier since I think he'll be a better decision maker overall, a bit better at moving the ball.
It's not like THJr couldn't create some and it's not like there weren't games where he had some good assist numbers.

It's that whenever I've seen Fournier play, and like most Knick fans, I think we've seen a good amount, it's that my feeling - not based on stats - is he's a more consistent shooter than THJr, and that he looks to move the ball more as part of bball DNA. Whether that be for the assist or the hockey assist.

He'll be a good fit with RJ and Randle. And Kemba.
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Post#228 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:43 pm

Also, I think Knick fans are more Gimps than Simps.
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Post#229 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:57 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Someone compared him to THJr and I thought that was wrong, but it's not the worst comp, in terms of talent.

I think Fournier is a little more talented - not wildly so, but edge just on talent.

Then, I prefer Fournier since I think he'll be a better decision maker overall, a bit better at moving the ball.
It's not like THJr couldn't create some and it's not like there weren't games where he had some good assist numbers.

It's that whenever I've seen Fournier play, and like most Knick fans, I think we've seen a good amount, it's that my feeling - not based on stats - is he's a more consistent shooter than THJr, and that he looks to move the ball more as part of bball DNA. Whether that be for the assist or the hockey assist.

He'll be a good fit with RJ and Randle. And Kemba.


Situation and expectation is the biggest difference. Fournier will be option #3 or #4, or whatever and that is what he signed up for.
Compared to when we signed Timmy and made him our #1 or #2 option and he signed up for that. He basically came out gunning to be our franchise player when he wasn't good enough for that role
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#230 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:00 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Someone compared him to THJr and I thought that was wrong, but it's not the worst comp, in terms of talent.

I think Fournier is a little more talented - not wildly so, but edge just on talent.

Then, I prefer Fournier since I think he'll be a better decision maker overall, a bit better at moving the ball.
It's not like THJr couldn't create some and it's not like there weren't games where he had some good assist numbers.

It's that whenever I've seen Fournier play, and like most Knick fans, I think we've seen a good amount, it's that my feeling - not based on stats - is he's a more consistent shooter than THJr, and that he looks to move the ball more as part of bball DNA. Whether that be for the assist or the hockey assist.

He'll be a good fit with RJ and Randle. And Kemba.


Situation and expectation is the biggest difference. Fournier will be option #3 or #4, or whatever and that is what he signed up for.
Compared to when we signed Timmy and made him our #1 or #2 option and he signed up for that. He basically came out gunning to be our franchise player when he wasn't good enough for that role


There's that too, but I also trust THJr a little less to be the guy to make sound decisions even in his reduced role

I'd say Fournier is here to be the #3 option most of the time and the #2 option, depending on who else is on the floor.

Basically options are Randle/Vet PG/Fournier in Thibs offense, I'd think.
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#231 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:09 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Someone compared him to THJr and I thought that was wrong, but it's not the worst comp, in terms of talent.

I think Fournier is a little more talented - not wildly so, but edge just on talent.

Then, I prefer Fournier since I think he'll be a better decision maker overall, a bit better at moving the ball.
It's not like THJr couldn't create some and it's not like there weren't games where he had some good assist numbers.

It's that whenever I've seen Fournier play, and like most Knick fans, I think we've seen a good amount, it's that my feeling - not based on stats - is he's a more consistent shooter than THJr, and that he looks to move the ball more as part of bball DNA. Whether that be for the assist or the hockey assist.

He'll be a good fit with RJ and Randle. And Kemba.


Situation and expectation is the biggest difference. Fournier will be option #3 or #4, or whatever and that is what he signed up for.
Compared to when we signed Timmy and made him our #1 or #2 option and he signed up for that. He basically came out gunning to be our franchise player when he wasn't good enough for that role


There's that too, but I also trust THJr a little less to be the guy to make sound decisions even in his reduced role

I'd say Fournier is here to be the #3 option most of the time and the #2 option, depending on who else is on the floor.

Basically options are Randle/Vet PG/Fournier in Thibs offense, I'd think.


Yea, I trust Fournier more too and prefer him. Timmy was pretty wildly inconsistent and seemed like he would go into heat check mode a little too much.

Fournier seems like he is willing to play his role a little better.
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#232 » by FreeSpiritNY » Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:33 pm

BKlutch wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
BKlutch wrote:You're so blinded by your own inner troll that what you write, taken as a whole, makes you look really bad.

1. There is NO surplus of 2nd rounders. It's almost impossible - we could always bundle them into a trade, if we don't want to use them. Also, we could be stocking up for the double draft (see below #4).

2 Judging by what you wrote above, Free Spirit indeed used the word "simp" correctly

3. Cade has proven equally as much as McBride, Grimes, etc. It's all preseason, but lots of very knowledgeable folks love our picks (even our front office, which is highly regarded by most, likes them)

4. The part about the upcoming double draft with high school picks is wrong. This past draft, we traded down because the really great players were no longer available by 19. The upcoming draft will have double the number of great players and double the number of really good players - so we can use second round picks as if they were first round picks, and a first round pick will be the equivalent of a much higher pick in previous drafts. They've been stocking up for a reason.

Calm down and learn to love the team. If you can't, there are 29 other teams out there all looking for more fans to love them. Love a team and enjoy being their fan, or

Spoiler:
just keep on digging your hole deeper.

Not only does this genius misuse the term simp like the previous poster but doubles down on the stupidity by misusing the term troll as well great job.

Nobody wants your dumb ass 2nd round picks. It legit took 32 and 34 to move up 2 spots.

Speaking of Cade didnt Cade make mcbride his bitch in one summer league game? I guess I should follow your lead and write him off now. Im sure you can back up your statement that most people highly regarded our draft and that you're not just pulling such a statement out of your ass.

NTY how about this I'll continue challenging the Knicks when they make a questionable move and you can continue being the low quality fan that justifies the bull that the front office does no matter how stupid it is. Fans like you is the reason why Dolan gets away with the bull he pulls.

Spoiler:

Wipe that brown stuff off of your nose.


I have no idea how you expect someone to debate the basketball issues with you when you write these things, but I'm not going down that rabbit hole. This kind of comment is not at all conducive to furthering what could have been an interesting discussion.


My post wasn’t towards you it was towards oscirus. Since he quoted me and was talking about what I said then added simp in the middle of it with out saying who that was from.


I guess he need to learn how to write as well. You can’t talk about two different people in the same sentence without citing who it’s from.

I have the worst typos in this board because I’ll admire I write really quick when I’m at work and don’t proof read but what’s his excuse. He further back mine by adding nikola. He fell into my trap because I knew if I didn’t mention him that he would possibly do so.


So here is a thing towards oscirus if you are going to be a negative fan and then attack a poster at least so it in a proper manner with proper grammar. God bless and prosper.


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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#233 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:16 pm

Ok I’m a Fournier fan now 8-)
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#234 » by Gravy » Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:38 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:Someone compared him to THJr and I thought that was wrong, but it's not the worst comp, in terms of talent.

I think Fournier is a little more talented - not wildly so, but edge just on talent.

Then, I prefer Fournier since I think he'll be a better decision maker overall, a bit better at moving the ball.
It's not like THJr couldn't create some and it's not like there weren't games where he had some good assist numbers.

It's that whenever I've seen Fournier play, and like most Knick fans, I think we've seen a good amount, it's that my feeling - not based on stats - is he's a more consistent shooter than THJr, and that he looks to move the ball more as part of bball DNA. Whether that be for the assist or the hockey assist.

He'll be a good fit with RJ and Randle. And Kemba.


Situation and expectation is the biggest difference. Fournier will be option #3 or #4, or whatever and that is what he signed up for.
Compared to when we signed Timmy and made him our #1 or #2 option and he signed up for that. He basically came out gunning to be our franchise player when he wasn't good enough for that role


There's that too, but I also trust THJr a little less to be the guy to make sound decisions even in his reduced role

I'd say Fournier is here to be the #3 option most of the time and the #2 option, depending on who else is on the floor.

Basically options are Randle/Vet PG/Fournier in Thibs offense, I'd think.

Where's RJ in the option on offense ranking? Last year he was second to Randle in shot attempts per game.
I'm thinking it will be
1 Randle
2/3 RJ/Kemba
4 Fournier
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#235 » by Zenzibar » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:33 pm

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Y’all speeding. Please relax. This is taking a tone past basketball discussion.


You're over-reacting. He put a smiley face and is keeping it light. Let them get off some steam, dont be a wus.
(Smiley face).


thanks for the feedback.

i can see there's banter. maybe i misread some of the tone. looked a little personal and depricating at times. i agree it wasn't much, hence no warnings. not even blue font. wanted to make sure it didn't turn.

does that work for you?


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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#236 » by Zenzibar » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:35 pm

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You're over-reacting. He put a smiley face and is keeping it light. Let them get off some steam, dont be a wus.
(Smiley face).


thanks for the feedback.

i can see there's banter. maybe i misread some of the tone. looked a little personal and depricating at times. i agree it wasn't much, hence no warnings. not even blue font. wanted to make sure it didn't turn.

does that work for you?

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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#237 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:42 pm

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You're over-reacting. He put a smiley face and is keeping it light. Let them get off some steam, dont be a wus.
(Smiley face).


thanks for the feedback.

i can see there's banter. maybe i misread some of the tone. looked a little personal and depricating at times. i agree it wasn't much, hence no warnings. not even blue font. wanted to make sure it didn't turn.

does that work for you?


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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#238 » by Oscirus » Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:44 pm

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Oscirus wrote:Not only does this genius misuse the term simp like the previous poster but doubles down on the stupidity by misusing the term troll as well great job.

Nobody wants your dumb ass 2nd round picks. It legit took 32 and 34 to move up 2 spots.

Speaking of Cade didnt Cade make mcbride his bitch in one summer league game? I guess I should follow your lead and write him off now. Im sure you can back up your statement that most people highly regarded our draft and that you're not just pulling such a statement out of your ass.

NTY how about this I'll continue challenging the Knicks when they make a questionable move and you can continue being the low quality fan that justifies the bull that the front office does no matter how stupid it is. Fans like you is the reason why Dolan gets away with the bull he pulls.

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I have no idea how you expect someone to debate the basketball issues with you when you write these things, but I'm not going down that rabbit hole. This kind of comment is not at all conducive to furthering what could have been an interesting discussion.


My post wasn’t towards you it was towards oscirus. Since he quoted me and was talking about what I said then added simp in the middle of it with out saying who that was from.


I guess he need to learn how to write as well. You can’t talk about two different people in the same sentence without citing who it’s from.

I have the worst typos in this board because I’ll admire I write really quick when I’m at work and don’t proof read but what’s his excuse. He further back mine by adding nikola. He fell into my trap because I knew if I didn’t mention him that he would possibly do so.


So here is a thing towards oscirus if you are going to be a negative fan and then attack a poster at least so it in a proper manner with proper grammar. God bless and prosper.


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So basically you jumped into a conversation that had nothing to do with you and exposed your lack of reading comprehension cuz you dont know how the quote function works on this forum? Nothing else needs to be said after that. You are a genius
In case you need a helping hand, this time unlike the time that you referenced I actually did quote you.

Then you didnt mention the MVP was a 2nd round pick which wouldve worked well with your point because you were hoping to trap me into saying it instead?

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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#239 » by Oscirus » Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:45 pm

Gravy wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
Situation and expectation is the biggest difference. Fournier will be option #3 or #4, or whatever and that is what he signed up for.
Compared to when we signed Timmy and made him our #1 or #2 option and he signed up for that. He basically came out gunning to be our franchise player when he wasn't good enough for that role


There's that too, but I also trust THJr a little less to be the guy to make sound decisions even in his reduced role

I'd say Fournier is here to be the #3 option most of the time and the #2 option, depending on who else is on the floor.

Basically options are Randle/Vet PG/Fournier in Thibs offense, I'd think.

Where's RJ in the option on offense ranking? Last year he was second to Randle in shot attempts per game.
I'm thinking it will be
1 Randle
2/3 RJ/Kemba
4 Fournier


Apparently RJ's not in the top 125 players in the nba. He'll take the scraps that he can get and be happy with that.
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Re: BREAKING WOJ: Evan Fournier 4 years, 78 million (Team-Option) 

Post#240 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:18 pm

Oscirus wrote:
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thebuzzardman wrote:
There's that too, but I also trust THJr a little less to be the guy to make sound decisions even in his reduced role

I'd say Fournier is here to be the #3 option most of the time and the #2 option, depending on who else is on the floor.

Basically options are Randle/Vet PG/Fournier in Thibs offense, I'd think.

Where's RJ in the option on offense ranking? Last year he was second to Randle in shot attempts per game.
I'm thinking it will be
1 Randle
2/3 RJ/Kemba
4 Fournier


Apparently RJ's not in the top 125 players in the nba. He'll take the scraps that he can get and be happy with that.


It's such a weird number to do. Top 125. It's not top 100, the nice round number. It's not top 150, the halfway point to 200, but also would equate to 30x5, or the number of NBA starters.

It's almost as if the number was arrived at so some controversy could arise over 25 people left off...

So, I get some teams go 6 deep, but basically that list states that RJ isn't good enough to start on 25 NBA teams.

Not, RJ isn't the 1st or 2nd or 3rd or 4th best player on 25 teams, but that he wouldn't crack the starting lineup.
I get he needs to develop, but that seems a bit extreme.

Also, with some more thought, I think it's best to think of the Knicks as Randle and the PG as options 1 and 2 and everyone else option 3
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