With the 4th Pick, the Raptors select Scottie Barnes! Part 2

[BoyzNTheHood]

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the most interesting thing to me is the low free throw rates for Cade and Suggs.

Suggs is a QB so elusive. Cade doesn't really fly into players driving to the hoop.

That 1:1 ast/to ratio for Suggs is ugly

[anj]

I am in a bit of shock, but it looks like Scottie Barnes has a Nike deal. That has to first for Toronto to have a top player signing a deal with a top three show company.

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[Dalek]

I am in a bit of shock, but it looks like Scottie Barnes has a Nike deal. That has to first for Toronto to have a top player signing a deal with a top three show company.

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Going to be a big hit in Toronto

I think it will be great, especially if they have a Scottie player edition. Wild.

It took Kawhi years to get a deal with New Balance, but he became signature athlete.

Next step will be for Scottie to get a nickname and logo. Early vote for "the clapper:"

[niQ]

Waiting for the inevitable Dance Battle between Barnes and OG.

[everdiso]

the issue with fans is that cade, green, mobley and suggs can hit shots. barnes cant right now so bc fans put such a high premium on scoring, it plays a major part in their projections.

Summer League 2pt% / 3pt% / ft%

Cade: 34.8 / 50.0 / 50.0
Green: 50.0 / 52.6 / 92.9
Mobley: 40.0 / 12.5 / 50.0
Barnes: 43.9 / 27.3 / 73.9
Suggs: 44.4 / 35.7 / 77.8
Kuminga: 41.5 / 27.8 / 64.5

[niQ]

I am in a bit of shock, but it looks like Scottie Barnes has a Nike deal. That has to first for Toronto to have a top player signing a deal with a top three show company.

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Going to be a big hit in Toronto

I think it will be great, especially if they have a Scottie player edition. Wild.

It took Kawhi years to get a deal with New Balance, but he became signature athlete.

Next step will be for Scottie to get a nickname and logo. Early vote for "the clapper:"

Or SB for Spirit Breaker.

[Dalek]

I am in a bit of shock, but it looks like Scottie Barnes has a Nike deal. That has to first for Toronto to have a top player signing a deal with a top three show company.

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How dare you!

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Okay, I will revise the statement. That has to be a first for Toronto since the era of fitted clothing.

[720]

I am in a bit of shock, but it looks like Scottie Barnes has a Nike deal. That has to first for Toronto to have a top player signing a deal with a top three show company.

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Okay, I will revise the statement. That has to be a first for Toronto since the era of fitted clothing.

Barnes is not getting a signature shoe. That’s only reserved for a few players by Nike. He just signed a Nike deal to wear their regular basketball shoes/pe’s. Demar had the same deal.

[WigginsNation]

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God damn that's a big boy. Already looks like he got that "grown man" strength.

His body reminds me of Joey Graham

[Psubs]

Going to be a big hit in Toronto

I think it will be great, especially if they have a Scottie player edition. Wild.

It took Kawhi years to get a deal with New Balance, but he became signature athlete.

Next step will be for Scottie to get a nickname and logo. Early vote for "the clapper:"

Or SB for Spirit Breaker.

Scottie Spider Barnes

[HiJiNX]

Such a unique prospect. I’d feel a lot better predicting his ceiling if he was a better athlete

lol I know his game 'looks' less athletic, and combine measurements really only measure how athletic you are at combine drills, but at the end of the day Barnes combine numbers would basically make him close to the top performing SF in any combine from the last 20 years

Just for fun, plugged in some random years and filtered for players listed at SF on NBA.com's database. at semi-random just pulled some names I recoginized as guys who are known as "athletes"

Jason Richardson - Identical max vert, shorter standing vert, slower lane agility and 3.12 s vs. 3.15 s in 3/4 sprint
Dwyane Wade- lower max and standing vert, 10.56 v 10.88 lane agility, 3.08 v 3.15 sprint
Demar Derozan- worse numbers across the board (even max vert)
Terrence Ross- worse numbers across the board
Tyrus Thomas- worse everything and identical max vert
Kawhi Leonard- worse at everything besides sprint which was identical (tbf Kawhi maybe more known for freak measurements vs. run and jump athleticism, but had to include this one)

Now is Scottie Barnes faster with a ball in his hands than prime DWade? Obviously not. And TBF none of these measurements really seem to approximate explosiveness of a first step

But overall, its kind of crazy to look at how freakish Barnes combine was in the big picture - especially his sprint and agility numbers being better than true shooting guards 30 pounds lighter than him

Yeah, I don’t know where this “Barnes isn’t athletic” rhetoric is coming from. Well maybe I do. Lanky guys tend to look slow even when they’re moving fast. And you can say that Barnes isn’t the most explosive guy but he’s not a mediocre athlete by any means—he just doesn’t have freaky explosiveness. One thing that I think people are really overlooking about Barnes athleticism is how quickly he reaches top speed in the open court. There is very little latency between flat footed to full speed for him. He also has a very good second jump. Essentially Barnes is a very good athlete who will only get more explosive under NBA level training. But when you look at Barnes in the open floor it’s like he was shot out of a cannon with the way he accelerates.

[Dalek]

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Okay, I will revise the statement. That has to be a first for Toronto since the era of fitted clothing.

Barnes is not getting a signature shoe. That’s only reserved for a few players by Nike. He just signed a Nike deal to wear their regular basketball shoes/pe’s. Demar had the same deal.

I know he may not get a signature shoe, but this guy hasn't even played a singled NBA game. They just see his brand potential.

Personally, I'd think he will go with the Cosmic Unitys for his in-game shoe. Every time AD was wearing them I thought those were nice looking shoes and for a big dude like Barnes, he probably needs the extra comfort.

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[720]

Such a unique prospect. I’d feel a lot better predicting his ceiling if he was a better athlete

lol I know his game 'looks' less athletic, and combine measurements really only measure how athletic you are at combine drills, but at the end of the day Barnes combine numbers would basically make him close to the top performing SF in any combine from the last 20 years

Just for fun, plugged in some random years and filtered for players listed at SF on NBA.com's database. at semi-random just pulled some names I recoginized as guys who are known as "athletes"

Jason Richardson - Identical max vert, shorter standing vert, slower lane agility and 3.12 s vs. 3.15 s in 3/4 sprint
Dwyane Wade- lower max and standing vert, 10.56 v 10.88 lane agility, 3.08 v 3.15 sprint
Demar Derozan- worse numbers across the board (even max vert)
Terrence Ross- worse numbers across the board
Tyrus Thomas- worse everything and identical max vert
Kawhi Leonard- worse at everything besides sprint which was identical (tbf Kawhi maybe more known for freak measurements vs. run and jump athleticism, but had to include this one)

Now is Scottie Barnes faster with a ball in his hands than prime DWade? Obviously not. And TBF none of these measurements really seem to approximate explosiveness of a first step

But overall, its kind of crazy to look at how freakish Barnes combine was in the big picture - especially his sprint and agility numbers being better than true shooting guards 30 pounds lighter than him

Yeah, I don’t know where this “Barnes isn’t athletic” rhetoric is coming from. Well maybe I do. Lanky guys tend to look slow even when they’re moving fast. And you can say that Barnes isn’t the most explosive guy but he’s not a mediocre athlete by any means—he just doesn’t have freaky explosiveness. One thing that I think people are really overlooking about Barnes athleticism is how quickly he reaches top speed in the open court. There is very little latency between flat footed to full speed for him. He also has a very good second jump. Essentially Barnes is a very good athlete who will only get more explosive under NBA level training. But when you look at Barnes in the open floor it’s like he was shot out of a cannon with the way he accelerates.

I think it's because his vertical isn't that high in game when he jumps and he is somewhat slow lateral quickness wise. But other than that he's a specimen.

[Dalek]

I think it will be great, especially if they have a Scottie player edition. Wild.

It took Kawhi years to get a deal with New Balance, but he became signature athlete.

Next step will be for Scottie to get a nickname and logo. Early vote for "the clapper:"

Or SB for Spirit Breaker.

Scottie Spider Barnes

Hey man, Donavon "Spida" Mitchell disapproves of your choice. On a semi-related tangent, it would be cool to Davion Mitchell get an Adidas deal and get the "Venom" nickname. He is pretty much a Donavon clone, but he is more amped on the defensive side. But, maybe that is way too comic book.

[ItsDanger]

Something that doesn't get mentioned much with Scottie from summer league is that his turnovers were very low relative to how much he handled the ball in transition and half court.

[blastttOFF]

Or SB for Spirit Breaker.

Scottie Spider Barnes

Hey man, Donavon "Spida" Mitchell disapproves of your choice. On a semi-related tangent, it would be cool to Davion Mitchell get an Adidas deal and get the "Venom" nickname. He is pretty much a Donavon clone, but he is more amped on the defensive side. But, maybe that is way too comic book.

Davion is already called Off Night

[Rebel INS]

Yeah, I don’t know where this “Barnes isn’t athletic” rhetoric is coming from. Well maybe I do. Lanky guys tend to look slow even when they’re moving fast. And you can say that Barnes isn’t the most explosive guy but he’s not a mediocre athlete by any means—he just doesn’t have freaky explosiveness. One thing that I think people are really overlooking about Barnes athleticism is how quickly he reaches top speed in the open court. There is very little latency between flat footed to full speed for him. He also has a very good second jump. Essentially Barnes is a very good athlete who will only get more explosive under NBA level training. But when you look at Barnes in the open floor it’s like he was shot out of a cannon with the way he accelerates.

Yeah his agility, acceleration, ability to jump from a standstill all check out on an eye test. That seperates him from non-elite athletes who surprisingly kill the combine like Harrison Barnes (presumbably because they train their ass off for the drills). He's elite at every measure of athleticism beyond first step explosion off the bounce. With a guy who checks the boxes in every other aspect, I believe that can be improved to some extent through a combination of plyo type training and skill development

There's barely a handful of guys Scottie's size who came with freak explosiveness/first step from a standstill, and those are guys like Lebron and Giannis who are in the convo for 'most athletic human being ever born' - if we're complaining that Scottie is athletic but isn't 'greatest athlete in NBA history" athletic, then I think that misses the point with him. If we can actually develop him into a shooter with ball skills, he's more than athletic enough to be a transcendent talent

[StopitLeo]

Wrong.

In college Barnes had the most assists per 40 of Cade, Green and Suggs. He also had the best AST to TO ratio of the 4. All while having the lowest Usage %.

In summer league Barnes had the most assists of the 4 (although Suggs had a slightly higher AST% to Barnes [22.9 to 19.3], but Suggs had a much higher USG% than Barnes [32.4 to 24.2].

Barnes also had the best AST to TO rate of the 4 in summer league.

IMO, these are indicators that Barnes is the most advanced playmaker out of the 4.

Ford has really slipped in his draft evaluations since the 2000's. I read he has a day job as a professor...maybe he is too bagged to give sufficient attention to his night job.

Barnes would easily have had +2 assists per game if Gillespie didn't fumble so many passes and miss so many shots at the rim.

He made a lot of very good passes but I think one in particular highlights his ability as a playmaker. It was in the first game when he grabbed a defensive rebound and then with his left hand, off one dribble, he threw a perfect 3/4 court pass to Dalano for an easy dunk. I'm not sure Green and Suggs make that pass.

[And1Skip]

I am in a bit of shock, but it looks like Scottie Barnes has a Nike deal. That has to first for Toronto to have a top player signing a deal with a top three show company.

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Okay, I will revise the statement. That has to be a first for Toronto since the era of fitted clothing.

LOL.....though DeMar, Kyle, Pascal all have shoe deals but they don't get their own signature shoe. When DeMar was here, he exclusively wore the Kobe line (probably his own preference as well).

[Bruin]

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