All Elite Wrestling - Discussion

[bondom34]

Yeah I'm kinda not expecting him to be there at this point.

Well just to recklessly speculate.

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Black also released a trailer the day of his debut.

Doubtful. Unless Meltzer misinterpreted the definition of “major”

Or, it's, "the devil himself" whoever that is

Murphy aligning himself with Black down the line would be smart storytelling

And part of the reason I wonder about Murphy is that iirc when they last teased something as the biggest announcement ever or similar it was Christian.

[bondom34]

Well nevermind lol. This is awesome

[Pharaoh]

BOOM!

Massive moment for AEW...

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[tugs]

"...on your way out of the United Center, grab yourself an ice cream bar. On me!"

That was awesome

Bit underwhelmed though don't know why

[detroitKG]

That was AMAZING!!! Electric atmosphere and great to have Punk back on a live mic! Can't wait for he and Darby at All Out!

[tugs]

All these rubs Darby is getting, man. Lucky kid

[iMoreland]

Crazy

[Amare_1_Knicks]

One of the best pops of all time? My goodness. Can’t lie, I was super excited. I sat up when his music hit and was glued to the screen for those minutes. I think everyone would’ve been okay with Punk just talking for a full hour.

[Pharaoh]

Between Darby, MJF & Hangman they're really putting in the effort to build home grown guys.

This thing with Punk & Darby will be a disappointment if we don't get Sting v Punk in some way though, even if it's just face to face on mics

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[tugs]

Curious if they'll follow through with some backstage interactions

[bondom34]

Yeah planning on getting the PPV. What an entrance and promo and looking forward to it already. They had to have him there thinking about it and good call to start with him so the crowd wasn't a distraction.

Seems like a huge deal for AEW and just fun in general

[WRau1]

That was amazing, as soon as that music hit I got chills. My only complaint, and I know it's stupid/minor, I wish AEW would put more money into their sound production. I was at one of the first AEW shows and I felt it was an issue then, seems like it still is. But anyways, goddamn I love Punk.

[Butch718]

That was a crazy pop.

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[Pharaoh]

Gonna have Cult of Personality on repeat for a bit.


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[jakecronus8]

This felt like a big deal. Perhaps a turning point. Can’t wait to see what the immediate future brings.

Wwe has lost all of its momentum and then some while AEW is taking the ball and running with it. Wrestling is coming back baby.

[tugs]

Please tell me that was Brock Lesnar guy at ringside

The amazing thing with that segment was it didn't feel like an AEW show, but rather, a special wrestling history unfolding, a grand return and reunion of Punk with pro wrestling

[tugs]

Because former WWE guys?

20th, gentlemen. Are we gonna hear Cult of Personality?

If we do, the remainder of my evening I will be partaking in the activity of your namesake

Lotion ready?

[Scott Hall]

Great moment for AEW even though I wish it was an organic surprise I totally get the business aspect of
leaking it and building the anticipation up.

I kind of wish there was a pipe bomb and they held off on the Darby Allen stuff for another time as it
all should've been about him his first night back. 7 years man it's a shame that one of Wrestlings best
ever talents of the last 15-20 years was gone so long especially in an era that desperately needed
a Hulk Hogan/Steve Austin level mega star.

The crying CM Punk guy really stood out and it begs the question who got the louder pop John Cena at TLC
last month or CM Punk in Chicago? Both stand out to me because for kids that grew up in the 80's and early
90's we were absolutely spoiled with all the legendary cartoons, movies, TV Shows, Wrestling and Sports
we grew up with. And things eventually fell off and the kids that came along after they didn't have all the
legends and heroes we grew up with and to them guys like John Cena and CM Punk were their heroes and it's
cool to seem them now as grown men losing their $hit and seeing their heroes return.

A major complaint I have about this show is why on earth with all these eyeballs checking in on the product
is your main event Jon Moxley vs. _______? seriously who was that jobber? If I was watching this show with
a lapsed fan or first time watcher and they asked me who is Jon Moxley wrestling me as a hardcore fan
has no idea who he is and I'm not sure if he is an enhancement talent or not. Also he is with EverRise the
jobbers from NXT WWE's development system? like why on EARTH are these guys involved in the Main Event
of one your biggest shows in history?

It's like when Cody Rhodes wrestled Anthony Agogo (sp?) I have no idea who this guy is and have to google
search him. AEW has to do a better job of building up stars like they have with Darby and got to get rid
of this bad habit of throwing anybody in high profile matches that the audience doesn't know who they
are and haven't been built up as characters. So Cody Rhodes wrestles a British Boxer that won a Bronze
medal a decade ago that nobody has heard of and then the guy disappears again and what was accomplished?

AEW is still in its infancy stages and has a ton of momentum right now and with so few PPVs on during the
calendar year right now they need to put the foot on the gas and go full steam and load up every card
especially main events put the catering guys/Indy guys on the Youtube show and then slowly integrate them
on Dynamite and Rampage in the appropriate spots. Also guys like Malaki Black who's hot and fresh should
be on every show right now and not be off TV like he was this week.

Sorry for the long rant but AEW drives me nuts sometimes and I only want them to do well. Anyways this night
belongs to CM Punk and I can't wait till they show him face to face with Colt Cabana or when he starts feuding
with MJF and they show that picture of them when Max was a kid at the autograph signing and then MJF starts
mocking his UFC career lol.

[Pharaoh]

Great moment for AEW even though I wish it was an organic surprise I totally get the business aspect of
leaking it and building the anticipation up.

I kind of wish there was a pipe bomb and they held off on the Darby Allen stuff for another time as it
all should've been about him his first night back. 7 years man it's a shame that one of Wrestlings best
ever talents of the last 15-20 years was gone so long especially in an era that desperately needed
a Hulk Hogan/Steve Austin level mega star.

The crying CM Punk guy really stood out and it begs the question who got the louder pop John Cena at TLC
last month or CM Punk in Chicago? Both stand out to me because for kids that grew up in the 80's and early
90's we were absolutely spoiled with all the legendary cartoons, movies, TV Shows, Wrestling and Sports
we grew up with. And things eventually fell off and the kids that came along after they didn't have all the
legends and heroes we grew up with and to them guys like John Cena and CM Punk were their heroes and it's
cool to seem them now as grown men losing their $hit and seeing their heroes return.

A major complaint I have about this show is why on earth with all these eyeballs checking in on the product
is your main event Jon Moxley vs. _______? seriously who was that jobber? If I was watching this show with
a lapsed fan or first time watcher and they asked me who is Jon Moxley wrestling me as a hardcore fan
has no idea who he is and I'm not sure if he is an enhancement talent or not. Also he is with EverRise the
jobbers from NXT WWE's development system? like why on EARTH are these guys involved in the Main Event
of one your biggest shows in history?

It's like when Cody Rhodes wrestled Anthony Agogo (sp?) I have no idea who this guy is and have to google
search him. AEW has to do a better job of building up stars like they have with Darby and got to get rid
of this bad habit of throwing anybody in high profile matches that the audience doesn't know who they
are and haven't been built up as characters. So Cody Rhodes wrestles a British Boxer that won a Bronze
medal a decade ago that nobody has heard of and then the guy disappears again and what was accomplished?

AEW is still in its infancy stages and has a ton of momentum right now and with so few PPVs on during the
calendar year right now they need to put the foot on the gas and go full steam and load up every card
especially main events put the catering guys/Indy guys on the Youtube show and then slowly integrate them
on Dynamite and Rampage in the appropriate spots. Also guys like Malaki Black who's hot and fresh should
be on every show right now and not be off TV like he was this week.

Sorry for the long rant but AEW drives me nuts sometimes and I only want them to do well. Anyways this night
belongs to CM Punk and I can't wait till they show him face to face with Colt Cabana or when he starts feuding
with MJF and they show that picture of them when Max was a kid at the autograph signing and then MJF starts
mocking his UFC career lol.

The reason for Mox v [insert random here] is because the entire show was about Punk and nothing that happened matters beyond that moment and promo.

Can agree, to a point, that they not include Darby in that moment but Do what you want to pump up your home grown kid.

As for leaking it or kinda letting it be known:

1 - business is business. Gotta get ratings and sell out the joint

2 - if he's a surprise return and no one knew then it's as stupid as Goldberg v Hogan at the Georgia Dome!

Now since you went deep:

I'm one of the millions (and millions) of lapsed fans Cody often talks about.

I started in 1986 on WWE(F then but) then found NWA Jim Crockett version. I paid for tapes, requested matches from that person, paid them to bootleg me the best in the world!

I haven't really "watched" any of the product in YEARS, probably a decade if we're talking real dollars here.

But I've kept watch, YouTube stuff like the Summer of Punk and Roman, Cena v Rock, certain things that draw me in (Edge, Christian, Bray, Brock etc)

I'm part of a generation that watched our heroes die!

Owen, Eddy, Benoit, Pillman, Rick Rude and so on. We watched these men put on classics for the ages and we watched them die for us.

That does something to a person. As time went on I slipped further away, further from this weird "entertainment" that I loved with all my being growing up...

And yet I was online waiting for Rampage to start, to hit refresh as some dude reviewed it live, cause I knew what was coming, I just didn't know when.

"With a tear in my eye"...it was **** special! It was a moment that can't be repeated and yeah I've watched it on YouTube enough these past few hours.

Punk doesn't have his cult following because he's just merely CM Punk, the best in the world. Nah, that's too easy to talk away.

He has his following because he represents something, something that people feel somewhere inside of them.

Race, Funk, Dusty...he mentioned them in the post show thing (never watched one before, unlikely to watch another one). The brought him up.

CM Punk represents something that WWE can't buy, Kahn can't buy, he has a connection to a fanbase you can't quantify with metrics and ratings and merch and buys.

CM Punk is a belief! That it belongs to us!

This business, industry, whatever. It's ours, we own it, we love it and you can strip it down, switch it up, change it and abuse it but we still gonna love so many things about it cause **** you that's ours!

CM Punk is that, cause of pipe bombs and great matches, cause he's not 6'6" and orange. He's one of us. A real wrestling fan.

We still exist, we just left...unlike our heroes we're not dead though. We just stopped watching, waiting, hoping that somehow someday somewhere down the road someone will come along.

Tony Kahn

I might not ever actually give you a dime.

But you gave me today.

And that'll do me

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