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Re: Pistons, Spurs and Magic only teams with $30+ million in cap space in 2022 

Post#21 » by Obe1ball » Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:52 am

vege wrote:
Spider156 wrote:You serious?


I am but maybe it will take someone from the midia to write about it for some people to understand the absurd stuff Weaver has been doing. I mean, fans from other teams are starting to agree that he is absolutely awful and his cap management is a crime.



Your take is absolutely awful. :crazy:
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Post#22 » by DET_Athletics » Sat Aug 21, 2021 5:04 am

Beal or Lavine? We have to build it if we want one of them to come. Trade for Myles Turner or starting caliber center at the trade deadline? Olnyk Josh Jackson and whatever picks they want. You can't tell me one of them wouldn't think twice about getting paid and being on that roster as the final piece.

Beal or Lavine/ Cojo /Lee
Cade / Hayes /F. Jackson
Bey / Livers / C. Smith
Grant / Sekou / J. Pickett
Turner / Stewart / Garza

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Post#23 » by vege » Sat Aug 21, 2021 5:09 am

Obe1ball wrote:
vege wrote:
Spider156 wrote:You serious?


I am but maybe it will take someone from the midia to write about it for some people to understand the absurd stuff Weaver has been doing. I mean, fans from other teams are starting to agree that he is absolutely awful and his cap management is a crime.



Your take is absolutely awful. :crazy:


After your "it's for the minimum, relax" comment, I think I can't expect anything different from you right?

Anyways, thanks for your deep arguments and contribution to the discussion, and welcome to the hate squad btw, you'll be popular quickly around here attacking me, so well done :crazy:
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Post#24 » by DetroitSho » Sat Aug 21, 2021 5:44 am

vege wrote:
Obe1ball wrote:
vege wrote:
I am but maybe it will take someone from the midia to write about it for some people to understand the absurd stuff Weaver has been doing. I mean, fans from other teams are starting to agree that he is absolutely awful and his cap management is a crime.



Your take is absolutely awful. :crazy:


After your "it's for the minimum, relax" comment, I think I can't expect anything different from you right?

Anyways, thanks for your deep arguments and contribution to the discussion, and welcome to the hate squad btw, you'll be popular quickly around here attacking me, so well done :crazy:
He literally said your TAKE is horrible. Please end the victim bullsh... now. You've yet to be attacked. Get over yourself.

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Post#25 » by Pharaoh » Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:03 am

DetroitSho wrote:
vege wrote:
Obe1ball wrote:

Your take is absolutely awful. :crazy:


After your "it's for the minimum, relax" comment, I think I can't expect anything different from you right?

Anyways, thanks for your deep arguments and contribution to the discussion, and welcome to the hate squad btw, you'll be popular quickly around here attacking me, so well done :crazy:
He literally said your TAKE is horrible. Please end the victim bullsh... now. You've yet to be attacked. Get over yourself.

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Far easier to paint yourself as the voice of reason if you're battling numerous enemies who attack you all the time.

Instead of being just another random dude sharing your opinion on a forum

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Post#26 » by DetroitSho » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:02 pm

Pharaoh wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:
vege wrote:
After your "it's for the minimum, relax" comment, I think I can't expect anything different from you right?

Anyways, thanks for your deep arguments and contribution to the discussion, and welcome to the hate squad btw, you'll be popular quickly around here attacking me, so well done :crazy:
He literally said your TAKE is horrible. Please end the victim bullsh... now. You've yet to be attacked. Get over yourself.

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Far easier to paint yourself as the voice of reason if you're battling numerous enemies who attack you all the time.

Instead of being just another random dude sharing your opinion on a forum

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That's exactly what he's doing. His shtick is well past expiration.

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Post#27 » by JohnReese » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:09 pm

Lavine is the only good FA we might have a shoot at and so many "if". Bulls should look bad, our season needs to be good and Cunningham needs to prove that is gonna be superstar short term.
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Post#28 » by big_ol_stones » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:30 pm

GreekAlex wrote:I only like the upcoming RFA’s.

I wonder if they could get Miles Bridges, JJJ or Michael Porter Jr?


Would love to steal MPjr, all the potential in the world. Feel like he'd really have to play poorly for Denver to not match, especially since they'd take so much heat from the fan base for letting him go.

Bringing in one of the former spartans would be less sexy but I like spending money on potential.
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Post#29 » by 7r5ur » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:39 pm

I just hope that if we don't land a big name like Lavine or whomever, Gores doesn't pressure Weaver into committing long-term money to mediocre players just because they have the money to spend. No Charlie V & Ben Gordon or Jon Leuer situations please. Trade-able contracts only.
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Post#30 » by Snakebites » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:42 pm

Short of an injury or regression I don't think there's an offer we could give that the Nuggets wouldn't ultimately match for MPJ.

The others? Hard to say. Hard to imagine Bridges leaving the Suns unless they lowball him. JJJ? Not sure.
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Post#31 » by DBC10 » Sat Aug 21, 2021 4:03 pm

I'd think I'd stay on the side of standing pat during FA next season. Since there will only be 3 or so teams that have the deep pockets, the teams will have more leverage than the players.

I think who we chase or don't chase will be entirely on how we do next season. If Cade comes out swinging but we barely miss the playoffs, I can see a guy like Lavine open up to playing with him. If we're still more or less lottery fodder, than no, it'd be dumb to chase one of these guys very aggressively
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Post#32 » by bstein14 » Sat Aug 21, 2021 4:30 pm

I actually like Mikal Bridges over Zach LaVine. He shoots the ball incredibly well and defends well. He was a huge part of why Phoenix went to the finals last year. Didn't get the spotlight of their big 3 but played an important role and is still just 24 years old. He fits our young core great. I think he will be a borderline all star in a few years. I'd give him 4 years $80 to $88 million without hesitation. Hard to say whether or not Phoenix ownership will go big into the tax with max deals already for Paul, Booker and Ayton.

Give me Mikal at $22 million per over LaVine at $36 million per.
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Post#33 » by GreekAlex » Sat Aug 21, 2021 5:44 pm

Snakebites wrote:Short of an injury or regression I don't think there's an offer we could give that the Nuggets wouldn't ultimately match for MPJ.

The others? Hard to say. Hard to imagine Bridges leaving the Suns unless they lowball him. JJJ? Not sure.


I mentioned Miles Bridges of Charlotte not Mikal Bridges of the Suns although he’d be nice too.

Miles might be more attainable based on all the contracts the Hornets have handed out and the role that’s available for him.
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Post#34 » by FloridaMan78 » Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:03 pm

Yea I would’ve wanted Lavine at his max 39 mil, but unless the Bulls implode that’s not happening. I expect some smaller moves.

I like DiVencenzo at an overpay around 18-20 mil. No way the Bucks can match. He’s pretty much Frank Jackson on Offense and Hayes on Defense. Great fit with Cade. Anfernee Simmons has potential, but who knows what Portland will do. JJJR would be nice, but he would have to suck for Memphis not to match.

I really wanted them to compete sooner but looks like the 2022 free agency has evaporated. I’m guessing we’re aiming for 2023 and will stay flexible if that drys up too.
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Post#35 » by FloridaMan78 » Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:32 pm

Just checked Zack Lavine’s Catch and shoot 3pt%

48.6% on 2.6 attempts a game

Man I wanted him, he is a monster scorer which is exactly what we need. Ugh.
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Post#36 » by Snakebites » Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:32 pm

FloridaMan78 wrote:Yea I would’ve wanted Lavine at his max 39 mil, but unless the Bulls implode that’s not happening. I expect some smaller moves.

I like DiVencenzo at an overpay around 18-20 mil. No way the Bucks can match. He’s pretty much Frank Jackson on Offense and Hayes on Defense. Great fit with Cade. Anfernee Simmons has potential, but who knows what Portland will do. JJJR would be nice, but he would have to suck for Memphis not to match.

I really wanted them to compete sooner but looks like the 2022 free agency has evaporated. I’m guessing we’re aiming for 2023 and will stay flexible if that drys up too.

Yeah, keep in mind Lavine would have to take a pay cut to go from Chicago to Detroit. That's an obstacle you'd have to overcome with ANY max level free agent.

Thats...not happening.
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Post#37 » by Snakebites » Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:34 pm

GreekAlex wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Short of an injury or regression I don't think there's an offer we could give that the Nuggets wouldn't ultimately match for MPJ.

The others? Hard to say. Hard to imagine Bridges leaving the Suns unless they lowball him. JJJ? Not sure.


I mentioned Miles Bridges of Charlotte not Mikal Bridges of the Suns although he’d be nice too.

Miles might be more attainable based on all the contracts the Hornets have handed out and the role that’s available for him.

Miles is nice. Doesn't fill a need in the same way Mikal would- he's a combo forward.

Not sure what he's worth.
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Post#38 » by FloridaMan78 » Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:47 pm

Snakebites wrote:
FloridaMan78 wrote:Yea I would’ve wanted Lavine at his max 39 mil, but unless the Bulls implode that’s not happening. I expect some smaller moves.

I like DiVencenzo at an overpay around 18-20 mil. No way the Bucks can match. He’s pretty much Frank Jackson on Offense and Hayes on Defense. Great fit with Cade. Anfernee Simmons has potential, but who knows what Portland will do. JJJR would be nice, but he would have to suck for Memphis not to match.

I really wanted them to compete sooner but looks like the 2022 free agency has evaporated. I’m guessing we’re aiming for 2023 and will stay flexible if that drys up too.

Yeah, keep in mind Lavine would have to take a pay cut to go from Chicago to Detroit. That's an obstacle you'd have to overcome with ANY max level free agent.

Thats...not happening.


If the Bulls suck and don’t make the playoffs I think he leaves and loses the extra year on the table, or demands a sign and trade. Not probable, but possible.
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Post#39 » by bstein14 » Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:53 pm

FloridaMan78 wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
FloridaMan78 wrote:Yea I would’ve wanted Lavine at his max 39 mil, but unless the Bulls implode that’s not happening. I expect some smaller moves.

I like DiVencenzo at an overpay around 18-20 mil. No way the Bucks can match. He’s pretty much Frank Jackson on Offense and Hayes on Defense. Great fit with Cade. Anfernee Simmons has potential, but who knows what Portland will do. JJJR would be nice, but he would have to suck for Memphis not to match.

I really wanted them to compete sooner but looks like the 2022 free agency has evaporated. I’m guessing we’re aiming for 2023 and will stay flexible if that drys up too.

Yeah, keep in mind Lavine would have to take a pay cut to go from Chicago to Detroit. That's an obstacle you'd have to overcome with ANY max level free agent.

Thats...not happening.


If the Bulls suck and don’t make the playoffs I think he leaves and loses the extra year on the table, or demands a sign and trade. Not probable, but possible.


They added players this offseason to make a playoff run. I do agree its likely he wants out of they miss the playoffs... not sure he wants out to join Detroit though. San Antonio and Orlando both have the appeal of warmer weather and no state income tax.
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Post#40 » by Snakebites » Sat Aug 21, 2021 8:24 pm

FloridaMan78 wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
FloridaMan78 wrote:Yea I would’ve wanted Lavine at his max 39 mil, but unless the Bulls implode that’s not happening. I expect some smaller moves.

I like DiVencenzo at an overpay around 18-20 mil. No way the Bucks can match. He’s pretty much Frank Jackson on Offense and Hayes on Defense. Great fit with Cade. Anfernee Simmons has potential, but who knows what Portland will do. JJJR would be nice, but he would have to suck for Memphis not to match.

I really wanted them to compete sooner but looks like the 2022 free agency has evaporated. I’m guessing we’re aiming for 2023 and will stay flexible if that drys up too.

Yeah, keep in mind Lavine would have to take a pay cut to go from Chicago to Detroit. That's an obstacle you'd have to overcome with ANY max level free agent.

Thats...not happening.


If the Bulls suck and don’t make the playoffs I think he leaves and loses the extra year on the table, or demands a sign and trade. Not probable, but possible.

It's not unthinkable that he may leave.

Didn't they close that loophole that allows guys to sign a max contract at their home teams' rate only to be immediately traded? Aren't sign and trades capped at the receiving teams' max now?

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