Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million

[Prez]

Complaining about losing nothing players like Forbes and Merrill while being happy about replacing Tucker with Semi Ojeleye is peak Fotis lmao.

Forbes sucks, he shut me up for a bit in the first round but went right back to the playoff liability I thought he’d be after that. Merrill is a nothing player too.

[skones]

I don't know how you can say "Forbes contributed to winning" when he was pretty trash after the first round and Teague was getting past him on the depth chart

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I mean, he pretty clearly contributed in a big way vs. Miami. I also don't think Teague passed him on the depth chart. Forbes was never running the point. Think the two are separate.

[ShootingtheJ]

I don’t think the Bucks signed Hood on day 1 with the idea that he’s a crapshoot. Pretty sure they know he’s going to contribute.

They signed DJA on day 1 a year ago. Don't give them too much credit. I'll predict right now we'll end up attaching a 2nd rounder to Hood to get him off the roster before the season is over. I hope Suki and staff can work a miracle with him, but I'm not confident.

[ShootingtheJ]

I don't know how you can say "Forbes contributed to winning" when he was pretty trash after the first round and Teague was getting past him on the depth chart

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I mean, he pretty clearly contributed in a big way vs. Miami. I also don't think Teague passed him on the depth chart. Forbes was never running the point. Think the two are separate.

Sure, but we were blowing out Miami with or without him. Teague passed him because Teague was semi- tolerable defensively.

[Fotis St]

I don't know how you can say "Forbes contributed to winning" when he was pretty trash after the first round and Teague was getting past him on the depth chart

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We could agree that Regular Season winning doesn't matter that much ... BUT why 1st Round doesn't count ? It wasn't just one game, it was a whole series.
The amount of disrespect Forbes has got is hilarious imo. "He was a star in his role" , I loved him and the fact that he was as cheap as it gets.

[Matches Malone]

Rather have Hartenstein than Marc to be honest.

The only offseason move I liked is Semi to replace PJ.

So we replaced Forbes with Allen using Merrill & assets 2 2nds to acquire him
Signed G. Hill using our MLE to replace Teague, while Schroeder became available afterwards and maybe we could get Pat Beverley in a trade.
Drafted 2 non NBA players Mamu, George (bad selections imo but it is rare to find a good player like Merrill again that low. )
Anyway the thing I don't like is that , we traded
Sam Merrill + # 31 for Allen , Mamu and George.
I can swallow the trade, but with the loss of Forbes it looks way worse. If we could keep Forbes I would be OK. I don't know what Hood and Donte can give us, I expect nothing from them and most importantly I don't know their availability cause of their severe injuries. I expect nothing from Hill too to be honest. He looks washed in my eyes.
Anyway nothing to panic about but we lost 2 players Tucker and Forbes that contributed to winning and added players with injury concerns and asterisks for their playoff performances, especially shooting wise.
Defensively we look really good though. maybe Nwora does a Forbes come playoffs and things fall into place and we repeat.

You're not going to even realize Forbes is not on the team anymore after a week of games. Outside his Miami series, he looked unplayable during our run. Even his shooting started looking streaky. Allen can score in more ways than spot of 3's and has passable defense, something I doubt Merrill or Forbes will ever get to. Adding in a healthy DDV who can defend and provides invaluable rebounding from the guard spot, I think we'll be okay.

[RRyder823]

I don't know how you can say "Forbes contributed to winning" when he was pretty trash after the first round and Teague was getting past him on the depth chart

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We could agree that Regular Season winning doesn't matter that much ... BUT why 1st Round doesn't count ? It wasn't just one game, it was a whole series.
The amount of disrespect Forbes has got is hilarious imo. "He was a star in his role" , I loved him and the fact we was as cheap as it gets.

Sure 1st round counts but you don't get to make the statement you did when he went to sucking for rounds 2, 3 and 4.

That's 3 consecutive series where he was about as far from "a star in his role" as you can get. I honestly can't believe someone unironically posted that statement

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[FrieAaron]

Allen can 100% get hot from three for a series and will be a much better defender, despite how much heart Bryn always played with. It's a complete non-worry for me.

[skones]

I don't know how you can say "Forbes contributed to winning" when he was pretty trash after the first round and Teague was getting past him on the depth chart

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I mean, he pretty clearly contributed in a big way vs. Miami. I also don't think Teague passed him on the depth chart. Forbes was never running the point. Think the two are separate.

Sure, but we were blowing out Miami with or without him. Teague passed him because Teague was semi- tolerable defensively.

Forbes making 16 threes through three games is a big reason why we were blowing out Miami. You don't just get to wipe that away based upon a complete hypothetical.

[blazza18]

Any interest in Ryan Arcidiacono as the third guard? Just realised Chicago didn't offer him anything.

[ShootingtheJ]

I mean, he pretty clearly contributed in a big way vs. Miami. I also don't think Teague passed him on the depth chart. Forbes was never running the point. Think the two are separate.

Sure, but we were blowing out Miami with or without him. Teague passed him because Teague was semi- tolerable defensively.

Forbes making 16 threes through three games is a big reason why we were blowing out Miami. You don't just get to wipe that away based upon a complete hypothetical.

If he's not shooting, someone else is. They couldn't stop anyone.

[skones]

Sure, but we were blowing out Miami with or without him. Teague passed him because Teague was semi- tolerable defensively.

Forbes making 16 threes through three games is a big reason why we were blowing out Miami. You don't just get to wipe that away based upon a complete hypothetical.

If he's not shooting, someone else is. They couldn't stop anyone.

lol, that's not how it works.

Forbes was 16/30 the last three games of that series. The rest of the team was 32/101.

[DutchManDanFan]

I mean, he pretty clearly contributed in a big way vs. Miami. I also don't think Teague passed him on the depth chart. Forbes was never running the point. Think the two are separate.

Sure, but we were blowing out Miami with or without him. Teague passed him because Teague was semi- tolerable defensively.

Forbes making 16 threes through three games is a big reason why we were blowing out Miami. You don't just get to wipe that away based upon a complete hypothetical.

MIami didn’t defend Forbes, because they build the wall for Giannis. The Nets did defend Forbes and he became useless. But the Nets didn’t have a wall for Giannis.

[skones]

Sure, but we were blowing out Miami with or without him. Teague passed him because Teague was semi- tolerable defensively.

Forbes making 16 threes through three games is a big reason why we were blowing out Miami. You don't just get to wipe that away based upon a complete hypothetical.

MIami didn’t defend Forbes, because they build the wall for Giannis. The Nets did defend Forbes and he became useless. But the Nets didn’t have a wall for Giannis.

So? None of that changes anything I've stated.

[paulpressey25]

To resurrect the old term of “elite” on this board, Forbes was elite at three point shooting. Much more so than the guys we had the year prior (Matthews, Korver, Sterling, Hill). And it helped a lot in the regular season and round one.

Too much focus on labeling a guy trash because he wasn’t capable of stepping up in the later rounds. By that calculus, Joe Harris is a trash player also.

[Baddy Chuck]

We paid Bryn Forbes $2 million lol. He was awesome for what he was brought in as.

[raferfenix]

I hope this is the year we don't need to waste our time on a buyout carcas.

Is it too early to know who some of those people might be?

If history is our guide, it will be old players who are too old and slow to keep up in the playoffs.

I’m not about to claim Marvin Williams or Pau Gasol or the like worked out for us…

…but the Nets did just hit on Blake Griffin.

Now that we are the reigning champs a ring chaser vet with some gas left in the tank might be more readily available than before.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

I don’t think the Bucks signed Hood on day 1 with the idea that he’s a crapshoot. Pretty sure they know he’s going to contribute.

They signed DJA on day 1 a year ago. Don't give them too much credit. I'll predict right now we'll end up attaching a 2nd rounder to Hood to get him off the roster before the season is over. I hope Suki and staff can work a miracle with him, but I'm not confident.

woah woah woah... is this a serious concern you have? hes on a 1 year vet min did you miss that?

[Milbucks96]

Speaking of, it’s weird that Forbes contract info isn’t available anywhere. Him leaving doesn’t hurt but I’m curious as to how he ended up back in San Antonio. I thought he was going to get a decent contract even after the dnps in the later rounds but I guess not.

[ShootingtheJ]

I don’t think the Bucks signed Hood on day 1 with the idea that he’s a crapshoot. Pretty sure they know he’s going to contribute.

They signed DJA on day 1 a year ago. Don't give them too much credit. I'll predict right now we'll end up attaching a 2nd rounder to Hood to get him off the roster before the season is over. I hope Suki and staff can work a miracle with him, but I'm not confident.

woah woah woah... is this a serious concern you have? hes on a 1 year vet min did you miss that?

With the idea that this deal would bring in someone who might help, but yeah, I think there's a good chance he's dead weight.

We'll no longer just be cutting a player now that we're in the tax. Every outgoing salary will be found a new home, some teams do this with cash deals, but our ownership never does those.