OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins

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Nagy is getting in his own way. He's been traumatized by Mitch. Fields is not Mitch. At All.

I think we make the playoffs in a transitional year with Fields. It will be hilarious when we miss the playoffs by a game with Dalton starting the season with 3 losses.

No, he's just an awful coach. He's getting is his own way because that's just what he does because he's not competent. If he wanted to stay out of his way he'd have continued letting Lazor draw up plays and focus on big picture stuff, but his ego is far larger than his talent.

On some level when a coach has a quarterback, a lot of things can fall into place so it is easier. But he isn’t Andy Reid or another coach that can build discipline, leadership and organization apart from having a truly elite QB if necessary. Pace was wrong about his collaborator among other things. Fields will make it easier to build, but it is probably a risk to entrust Nagy with Fields’ development. And probably a risk for McCaskey to entrust Pace to oversee the process in the first place. There is a non-zero chance to screw this up. Hopefully next summer a housecleaning takes place. This is the Bears though, and weakness abounds. McCaskey is the weakest of all. He’ll try and force it all to work to out of pride imo. They all pray the rookie will make them look good, but so far they almost got him killed in his second pro game.

[Chi town]

If Fields gets the reigns after two games… no way Nagy plays Dalton after an 0-2 start… I see Fields with a season similar to Justin Herbert. 4,000 yards 30 TDs 12INTs 5 Rushing TDs

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Nagy's losing credibility by the minute here

Except it was stated before training camp started there is no qb competition.

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It doesn't matter. If you have a player outplaying another and stick your neck out for the worse player, it's going to cause issues in that locker room before long.

there is zero report of players being upset that dalton has the starting job. he clearly gets along great with fields and it is widely assumed that he will be holding a clipboard sooner rather than later. if the team sucks and dalton has been mediocre come the bye week, maybe then we'll see locker room grumblings. but i don't think that that will be the scenario. as soon as the team heads south, fields will be out there. hell, trubisky was yanked for freaking foles after starting the season with fluke WINS. i assume that dalton's leash will be similarly short

and if you'd get past the sportcenter highlights you're realize that dalton is doing his job just fine. no wow factor, but also doesn't throw the ball 5 feet over everyone's head on a 4th and goal like fields did (which you know you would have crucified dalton for). i would guess that dalton's QBR, which is situational and factors in QB runs, is higher than that of fields so far this preseason. despite playing against marginally better defensive units and WITH similarly crappy offensive support

and hell, if we're going off a few quarters of preseason action, let's get that mitch trubisky for MVP train rolling

"We need to see him in the regular season" is one of the most tone deaf, stupid things I've heard from a head coach in a minute. What the hell do you need to see from Andy Dalton? He's not changing his stripes.

andy dalton was rated the #20 QB in the NFL PFF heading into his last season with the bengals. then his contract expired and he couldn't find a starting job. know why? because teams would rather roll the dice on a new young guy than have a below average starting QB on the wrong side of 30. then he did a credible job last season in a total dumpster fire in dallas

know what fields has NOT proved he can be...yet? a marginally below average starting nfl QB. we have limited evidence that he can get there rather quickly, but it is nowhere near a certainty. PFF, who generally likes fields as a prospect, slotted him as the #25 QB heading into this season under the assumption that he would be the starter

so yes, we do know what dalton is. and it won't make the bears contenders this season. but fields is highly unlikely to as well and there's the future to think of. for god's sake he nearly got decapitated yesterday. he's lucky if he didn't get concussed

it makes zero sense if you're so pissed about having nagy as a coach that you would be upset that he is starting dalton. if you're so convinced that that is a mistake, why not take joy in watching dalton assist in getting nagy fired? after all, that would clear the decks for the golden boy. better sooner than later, right?

[Jimako10]

Eh this is all moot point because Aaron Donald will probably murder Dalton week 1.

[Chi town]

Trey Lance with a shaker start. Happy feet. Over throws. Pick. Played with the starters in the 2nd Q.

He settled in and made some nice throws. Two TDs. Niners rushing attack was helpful.

[ATRAIN53]

the smart $$ bet big on Trubisky coming here and playing like Tom Brady.
Of course that was gonna happen. Big deal.


I really can't believe we left our brand new shiny franchise savior out there to be blocked by 2nd and 3rd stringers.

No more please.

That hit when he almost got decapitated.
50 years we've been searching for a QB, the football gods gift us one.
One hit and it can all be over.

The guy has IT, you don't need to see anything else to know it. It's clear.
I don't want to see him get hit again until it counts in an actual NFL game.
You pay to protect that kid and if you can't protect him then don't play him.


I know we all want to see him but he needs to sit for a few weeks and watch, learn and let the line get in shape and then play when Dalton goes down.

Patience, NFL season is a marathon, not a sprint.
We're not winning anything this year anyways.
This season is Rogers Last Dance vs the Brady Bunch and winner gets Mahomes in the SB.

[Susan]

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Ifedi is back. I feel a bit better about the o-line if they have 4/5 spots locked down and they can work with Peters/Borom throughout the year.

[Susan]

Except it was stated before training camp started there is no qb competition.

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It doesn't matter. If you have a player outplaying another and stick your neck out for the worse player, it's going to cause issues in that locker room before long.

there is zero report of players being upset that dalton has the starting job. he clearly gets along great with fields and it is widely assumed that he will be holding a clipboard sooner rather than later. if the team sucks and dalton has been mediocre come the bye week, maybe then we'll see locker room grumblings. but i don't think that that will be the scenario. as soon as the team heads south, fields will be out there. hell, trubisky was yanked for freaking foles after starting the season with fluke WINS. i assume that dalton's leash will be similarly short

and if you'd get past the sportcenter highlights you're realize that dalton is doing his job just fine. no wow factor, but also doesn't throw the ball 5 feet over everyone's head on a 4th and goal like fields did (which you know you would have crucified dalton for). i would guess that dalton's QBR, which is situational and factors in QB runs, is higher than that of fields so far this preseason. despite playing against marginally better defensive units and WITH similarly crappy offensive support

and hell, if we're going off a few quarters of preseason action, let's get that mitch trubisky for MVP train rolling

"We need to see him in the regular season" is one of the most tone deaf, stupid things I've heard from a head coach in a minute. What the hell do you need to see from Andy Dalton? He's not changing his stripes.

andy dalton was rated the #20 QB in the NFL PFF heading into his last season with the bengals. then his contract expired and he couldn't find a starting job. know why? because teams would rather roll the dice on a new young guy than have a below average starting QB on the wrong side of 30. then he did a credible job last season in a total dumpster fire in dallas

know what fields has NOT proved he can be...yet? a marginally below average starting nfl QB. we have limited evidence that he can get there rather quickly, but it is nowhere near a certainty. PFF, who generally likes fields as a prospect, slotted him as the #25 QB heading into this season under the assumption that he would be the starter

so yes, we do know what dalton is. and it won't make the bears contenders this season. but fields is highly unlikely to as well and there's the future to think of. for god's sake he nearly got decapitated yesterday. he's lucky if he didn't get concussed

it makes zero sense if you're so pissed about having nagy as a coach that you would be upset that he is starting dalton. if you're so convinced that that is a mistake, why not take joy in watching dalton assist in getting nagy fired? after all, that would clear the decks for the golden boy. better sooner than later, right?

Andy Dalton was 2-11 in his last season with the Bengals, 4-5 with a monstrous lineup (Zeke, Lamb, Cooper, Gallop).

You're the only person who's saying Dalton is outplaying Fields. He's a bad starter, nothing he's done here has pisproven that. Not interested in going that much further into this because it's so moronic.

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Fields is getting play with the ones for the first time this preseason.

[BullsFTW]

It doesn't matter. If you have a player outplaying another and stick your neck out for the worse player, it's going to cause issues in that locker room before long.

there is zero report of players being upset that dalton has the starting job. he clearly gets along great with fields and it is widely assumed that he will be holding a clipboard sooner rather than later. if the team sucks and dalton has been mediocre come the bye week, maybe then we'll see locker room grumblings. but i don't think that that will be the scenario. as soon as the team heads south, fields will be out there. hell, trubisky was yanked for freaking foles after starting the season with fluke WINS. i assume that dalton's leash will be similarly short

and if you'd get past the sportcenter highlights you're realize that dalton is doing his job just fine. no wow factor, but also doesn't throw the ball 5 feet over everyone's head on a 4th and goal like fields did (which you know you would have crucified dalton for). i would guess that dalton's QBR, which is situational and factors in QB runs, is higher than that of fields so far this preseason. despite playing against marginally better defensive units and WITH similarly crappy offensive support

and hell, if we're going off a few quarters of preseason action, let's get that mitch trubisky for MVP train rolling

"We need to see him in the regular season" is one of the most tone deaf, stupid things I've heard from a head coach in a minute. What the hell do you need to see from Andy Dalton? He's not changing his stripes.

andy dalton was rated the #20 QB in the NFL PFF heading into his last season with the bengals. then his contract expired and he couldn't find a starting job. know why? because teams would rather roll the dice on a new young guy than have a below average starting QB on the wrong side of 30. then he did a credible job last season in a total dumpster fire in dallas

know what fields has NOT proved he can be...yet? a marginally below average starting nfl QB. we have limited evidence that he can get there rather quickly, but it is nowhere near a certainty. PFF, who generally likes fields as a prospect, slotted him as the #25 QB heading into this season under the assumption that he would be the starter

so yes, we do know what dalton is. and it won't make the bears contenders this season. but fields is highly unlikely to as well and there's the future to think of. for god's sake he nearly got decapitated yesterday. he's lucky if he didn't get concussed

it makes zero sense if you're so pissed about having nagy as a coach that you would be upset that he is starting dalton. if you're so convinced that that is a mistake, why not take joy in watching dalton assist in getting nagy fired? after all, that would clear the decks for the golden boy. better sooner than later, right?

Andy Dalton was 2-11 in his last season with the Bengals, 4-5 with a monstrous lineup (Zeke, Lamb, Cooper, Gallop).

You're the only person who's saying Dalton is outplaying Fields. He's a bad starter, nothing he's done here has pisproven that. Not interested in going that much further into this because it's so moronic.

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Fields is getting play with the ones for the first time this preseason.

Didn’t the Cowboys also have one of the best offensive line in the NFL?

[Jeffster81]

If Fields gets the reigns after two games… no way Nagy plays Dalton after an 0-2 start… I see Fields with a season similar to Justin Herbert. 4,000 yards 30 TDs 12INTs 5 Rushing TDs

I still believe that Nagy, even if/when he pulls the trigger and make the switch at QB, will be a hinderance to Fields potential. If Pace wants Fields to reach his fullest potential, then a correction at the HC position will need to be made after this season.

[Michael Jackson]

If Fields gets the reigns after two games… no way Nagy plays Dalton after an 0-2 start… I see Fields with a season similar to Justin Herbert. 4,000 yards 30 TDs 12INTs 5 Rushing TDs

I still believe that Nagy, even if/when he pulls the trigger and make the switch at QB, will be a hinderance to Fields potential. If Pace wants Fields to reach his fullest potential, then a correction at the HC position will need to be made after this season.

Well in general I think that is part of Pace's survival plan in general he will try to buy an extra year or two by making a change at head coach. I'm not a Nagy fan but I am less of a pace fan.

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[Susan]

there is zero report of players being upset that dalton has the starting job. he clearly gets along great with fields and it is widely assumed that he will be holding a clipboard sooner rather than later. if the team sucks and dalton has been mediocre come the bye week, maybe then we'll see locker room grumblings. but i don't think that that will be the scenario. as soon as the team heads south, fields will be out there. hell, trubisky was yanked for freaking foles after starting the season with fluke WINS. i assume that dalton's leash will be similarly short

and if you'd get past the sportcenter highlights you're realize that dalton is doing his job just fine. no wow factor, but also doesn't throw the ball 5 feet over everyone's head on a 4th and goal like fields did (which you know you would have crucified dalton for). i would guess that dalton's QBR, which is situational and factors in QB runs, is higher than that of fields so far this preseason. despite playing against marginally better defensive units and WITH similarly crappy offensive support

and hell, if we're going off a few quarters of preseason action, let's get that mitch trubisky for MVP train rolling


andy dalton was rated the #20 QB in the NFL PFF heading into his last season with the bengals. then his contract expired and he couldn't find a starting job. know why? because teams would rather roll the dice on a new young guy than have a below average starting QB on the wrong side of 30. then he did a credible job last season in a total dumpster fire in dallas

know what fields has NOT proved he can be...yet? a marginally below average starting nfl QB. we have limited evidence that he can get there rather quickly, but it is nowhere near a certainty. PFF, who generally likes fields as a prospect, slotted him as the #25 QB heading into this season under the assumption that he would be the starter

so yes, we do know what dalton is. and it won't make the bears contenders this season. but fields is highly unlikely to as well and there's the future to think of. for god's sake he nearly got decapitated yesterday. he's lucky if he didn't get concussed

it makes zero sense if you're so pissed about having nagy as a coach that you would be upset that he is starting dalton. if you're so convinced that that is a mistake, why not take joy in watching dalton assist in getting nagy fired? after all, that would clear the decks for the golden boy. better sooner than later, right?

Andy Dalton was 2-11 in his last season with the Bengals, 4-5 with a monstrous lineup (Zeke, Lamb, Cooper, Gallop).

You're the only person who's saying Dalton is outplaying Fields. He's a bad starter, nothing he's done here has pisproven that. Not interested in going that much further into this because it's so moronic.

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Fields is getting play with the ones for the first time this preseason.

Didn’t the Cowboys also have one of the best offensive line in the NFL?

Lots of injuries.

[biggestbullsfan]

I think if the score we got in the second preseason game was the score we ended up with after the first game of the season, I think you pull the trigger. But they made the mistake of giving Andy a promise before camp when they signed him. I think you have to play him otherwise, they lose credibility not just with the team, but with any potential future positions they might hold. Your word has to mean something, especially among these agents, players and Front Offices. I guess he can sleep at night know he was consistent with his message, even if it was the wrong one. It might cost us a season tho.

[The Evidence]

Everytime a Chicago GM makes a promise, it usually never ends well for the player or the GM.

[Michael Jackson]

Everytime a Chicago GM makes a promise, it usually never ends well for the player or the GM.

Chandler Hutchinson is nodding in agreement

[ATRAIN53]

even if it is a USAA ad - this was still a pretty good little 4 min window into Justin Fields world-

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and here's a link to a 10 episode series from Fields HS season - it's like a Hard Knocks following him around!

https://ontapsportsnet.com/2021/05/11/where-to-find-qb1-beyond-the-lights-season-2-featuring-justin-fields/

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Hub says Fields is the third most capable QB on the roster at this time. Hub. And that Foles has thrown the ball as well as Fields and Dalton in practice. And that if Dalton got hurt, he doesn’t know which QB Nagy would play first. This is a good time to finally say it. Hub needs a real name. It has been eating me up for years.

[HearshotKDS]

I have a sneaking suspicion we will see Fields take over the starting job in game 4 against DET. I think Nagy and maybe Pace expect to sell "look at the progress Fields showed going into the end of the season, dont look at the wins and losses, we are on teh cusp of something great" to George and I'm pretty certain George is dumb enough to buy that.

[Jcool0]

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