What 25 players would you add for the 75th year?

[jokeboy86]

there is zero chance they take off someone from the original 50, ir would be seen as disrespectful or at least bad taste

I'm pretty sure I've heard they're actually going to remake the 75, not just include 25 new ones and keep the 50 from 1997.

If they do this then the NBA is once again really trying to hard to pander to the youngest demographic or at least those not older than 50 and it remind me what Rolling Stone did when they revamped their 500 greatest albums and removed some older albums and acts to pander to the youth. I'm not a fan of this trend in sports now to basically ignore or overlook anything before basic cable simply because there's no footage or not enough. The NFL, MLB, and NHL simply would not do this.

[Feed Your Head]

there is zero chance they take off someone from the original 50, ir would be seen as disrespectful or at least bad taste

I'm pretty sure I've heard they're actually going to remake the 75, not just include 25 new ones and keep the 50 from 1997.

If they do this then the NBA is once again really trying to hard to pander to the youngest demographic or at least those not older than 50 and it remind me what Rolling Stone did when they revamped their 500 greatest albums and removed some older albums and acts to pander to the youth. I'm not a fan of this trend in sports now to basically ignore or overlook anything before basic cable simply because there's no footage or not enough. The NFL, MLB, and NHL simply would not do this.

Or, sometimes the new players/songs are actually better.

Need to take things changing into account.

[jokeboy86]

I'm pretty sure I've heard they're actually going to remake the 75, not just include 25 new ones and keep the 50 from 1997.

If they do this then the NBA is once again really trying to hard to pander to the youngest demographic or at least those not older than 50 and it remind me what Rolling Stone did when they revamped their 500 greatest albums and removed some older albums and acts to pander to the youth. I'm not a fan of this trend in sports now to basically ignore or overlook anything before basic cable simply because there's no footage or not enough. The NFL, MLB, and NHL simply would not do this.

Or, sometimes the new players/songs are actually better.

Need to take things changing into account.

But to me that like music can be subjective depending who you talk to. Add to the original list or don't put a definitive number on it. Personally I hate all of these list that rank and compare people from different eras because context is rarely taken into consideration. The GOAT basketball talk to me is kind of silly.

[YogurtProducer]

In 96-97 season the NBA came up with a list of the top 50 players off all time to coumarate the anniversary. What about adding an additional 25 players for the 75th year anniversary? My list is not in any order, it's not scientific, just names that popped into my head at the time. Who would you add? Who would you remove?

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Tim Duncan
3. Lebron James
4. Dirk Nowitski
5. Kevin Garnett
6. Ray Allen
7. Chris Bosh
8. Carmelo Anthony
9. Dwight Howard
10. Kawhi Leonard
11. Jason Kidd
12. Steph Curry
13. Kevin Durant
14. James Harden
15. Giannis antetokounmpo
16. Chris Paul
17. Russell Westbrook
18. Klay Thompson
19. Allen Iverson
20. Paul Pierce
21. Anthony Davis
22. Damian lillard
23. Dwayne Wade
24. Steve Nash
25. Nikola Jokic

From your list, I'd remove 7 players: Allen, Bosh, Klay, Dame, Giannis, AD and Jokic.
The last 3 are too young to be on this.

And replace them with:
- Dominique Wilkins
- Reggie Miller
- Dikembe Mutombo
- Tracy McGrady
- Chris Webber
- Vince Carter
- Yao Ming (might as well get them global $$)

You just cant remove MVP's IMO they should be locks. Rose should be added as well because it is impossible to tell the story of the NBA without bringing up Rose, Giannis, or Jokic.

I would take Giannis, Rose, or Jokic's career over Vince or Yao tbh even though they had amazing impact fan wise

[YogurtProducer]

If they do this then the NBA is once again really trying to hard to pander to the youngest demographic or at least those not older than 50 and it remind me what Rolling Stone did when they revamped their 500 greatest albums and removed some older albums and acts to pander to the youth. I'm not a fan of this trend in sports now to basically ignore or overlook anything before basic cable simply because there's no footage or not enough. The NFL, MLB, and NHL simply would not do this.

Or, sometimes the new players/songs are actually better.

Need to take things changing into account.

But to me that like music can be subjective depending who you talk to. Add to the original list or don't put a definitive number on it. Personally I hate all of these list that rank and compare people from different eras because context is rarely taken into consideration. The GOAT basketball talk to me is kind of silly.

So anything subjective cannot be ranked?

If we have a top 50 list and they expand it to top 75, but 30 of the 50 greatest players have played in the last 25 years we just do not recognize those last 5?

Just like Music; just because something was the goat at one time does not mean it still is

[beeshma]

Who would you add? Who would you remove?

I like your list. I would remove Lillard, Pierce, and Bosh. I would consider adding Luka and Embiid. I realize it's a bit early in their careers...

[JN61]

Yeh. I think if you want to have the ultimate list you would remove good 8-15 guys from the original list and fill with better players.

[JN61]

Who would you add? Who would you remove?

I like your list. I would remove Lillard, Pierce, and Bosh. I would consider adding Luka and Embiid. I realize it's a bit early in their careers...

Lillard is definitely far more accomplished than Embiid and this is one of those and not even close cases. Lillard is top 70-80 all time and Embiid isn't even in top 100.

[JN61]

Reggie Miller is my all time favorite player but I didn't see how was an overall better player than any of the other guys.

Reggie Miller is 21st All-Time in Regular Season VORP (Value Over Replacement), and 15th All-Time in Regular Season Win Shares. For the playoffs he's 27th in VORP and 24th in Win Shares. I would say he definitely deserves to be in, look at this

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/vorp_career.html

to see that every single guy ahead of him on the career VORP list either was or is a superstar.

Well as always that's just longeativity... This is like bragging LeBron is all time leader in playoff points. Of course because he played twice as many games due to how league was than most of other candidates...

[Triple7]

First the undebatable... somewhat in my order
1. Lebron James
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Tim Duncan
4. Kevin Durant
5. Dirk Nowitzki
6. Steph Curry
7. Kevin Garnett
8. Giannis Antetokounmpo
9. Dwayne Wade
10. Chris Paul
11. Kawahi Lenord
12. Steve Nash
13. James Harden
14. Russell Westbrook
15. Jason Kidd
16. Allen Iverson

Then a small gap/debatable

17.Dwight Howard
18.Gary Payton
19.Paul Pierce
20. Manu Ginobli
21. Pau Gasol
22. Reggie Miller
23. Ray Allen
24. Tony Parker
25. Anthony Davis

Snubs could be 17-25,Klay Thompson, Tracy McGrady, Dominque Wilkins, Artis Gilmore, Bob McAdoo, Carmelo Anthony, Ben Wallace, Dikembe Mutumbo,Dennis Rodman, Rasheed Wallace, Yao Ming, Chauncy Billups, Chris Bosh

the list was nice except for Anthony Davis. What has he really achieved? No Mvp, no fmvp, no DPOY. Being injured most of his career, so he even doesn’t have longevity for his arguement. I’d take Ben Wallace and Mutombo over him. at least those guys have multiple DPOY awards.

[ATRAIN53]

great idea OP

I hope the NBA is paying attention.

expanding the list allows us to celebrate 25 more great players from this new generation.
instead of taking guys off the original list and everyone arguing and getting salty.

again - GREAT IDEA!

[falcolombardi]

Reggie Miller is my all time favorite player but I didn't see how was an overall better player than any of the other guys.

Reggie Miller is 21st All-Time in Regular Season VORP (Value Over Replacement), and 15th All-Time in Regular Season Win Shares. For the playoffs he's 27th in VORP and 24th in Win Shares. I would say he definitely deserves to be in, look at this

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/vorp_career.html

to see that every single guy ahead of him on the career VORP list either was or is a superstar.

Well as always that's just longeativity... This is like bragging LeBron is all time leader in playoff points. Of course because he played twice as many games due to how league was than most of other candidates...

you act like longevity doesnt matter, if average level of someone peak was all that mattered bill walton would be a top 20 player of all time at minimum

[CircleCitysportsfan]

First the undebatable... somewhat in my order
1. Lebron James
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Tim Duncan
4. Kevin Durant
5. Dirk Nowitzki
6. Steph Curry
7. Kevin Garnett
8. Giannis Antetokounmpo
9. Dwayne Wade
10. Chris Paul
11. Kawahi Lenord
12. Steve Nash
13. James Harden
14. Russell Westbrook
15. Jason Kidd
16. Allen Iverson

Then a small gap/debatable

17.Dwight Howard
18.Gary Payton
19.Paul Pierce
20. Manu Ginobli
21. Pau Gasol
22. Reggie Miller
23. Ray Allen
24. Tony Parker
25. Anthony Davis

Snubs could be 17-25,Klay Thompson, Tracy McGrady, Dominque Wilkins, Artis Gilmore, Bob McAdoo, Carmelo Anthony, Ben Wallace, Dikembe Mutumbo,Dennis Rodman, Rasheed Wallace, Yao Ming, Chauncy Billups, Chris Bosh

the list was nice except for Anthony Davis. What has he really achieved? No Mvp, no fmvp, no DPOY. Being injured most of his career, so he even doesn’t have longevity for his arguement. I’d take Ben Wallace and Mutombo over him. at least those guys have multiple DPOY awards.

You're correct! To do it over I'd take Mutombo

[DoItALL9]

Alonzo Mourning's career is more impressive than Anthony Davis' so far imo.

Mourning played in a tougher, more competitive era at his position.

[DoItALL9]

there is zero chance they take off someone from the original 50, ir would be seen as disrespectful or at least bad taste

I'm pretty sure I've heard they're actually going to remake the 75, not just include 25 new ones and keep the 50 from 1997.

If they do this then the NBA is once again really trying to hard to pander to the youngest demographic or at least those not older than 50 and it remind me what Rolling Stone did when they revamped their 500 greatest albums and removed some older albums and acts to pander to the youth. I'm not a fan of this trend in sports now to basically ignore or overlook anything before basic cable simply because there's no footage or not enough. The NFL, MLB, and NHL simply would not do this.

Depends on how it plays out...

Could they pander to some older players too...

Wilkins, McAdoo, Bellamy, Thurmond, English, AD, Bernard King, Gilmore, David Thompson

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[DoctorX]

The NBA is going to release a new upgraded list this season in which they will add 25 new players to the old 50 greatest players list they created way back in 97. With that being said who do you guys think will make the 25 added slots?

[infinite11285]

The NBA is going to release a new upgraded list this season in which they will add 25 new players to the old 50 greatest players list they created way back in 97. With that being said who do you guys think will make the 25 added slots?

Merged

[Tesla]

First the undebatable... somewhat in my order
1. Lebron James
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Tim Duncan
4. Kevin Durant
5. Dirk Nowitzki
6. Steph Curry
7. Kevin Garnett
8. Giannis Antetokounmpo
9. Dwayne Wade
10. Chris Paul
11. Kawahi Lenord
12. Steve Nash
13. James Harden
14. Russell Westbrook
15. Jason Kidd
16. Allen Iverson

Then a small gap/debatable

17.Dwight Howard
18.Gary Payton
19.Paul Pierce
20. Manu Ginobli
21. Pau Gasol
22. Reggie Miller
23. Ray Allen
24. Tony Parker
25. Anthony Davis

Snubs could be 17-25,Klay Thompson, Tracy McGrady, Dominque Wilkins, Artis Gilmore, Bob McAdoo, Carmelo Anthony, Ben Wallace, Dikembe Mutumbo,Dennis Rodman, Rasheed Wallace, Yao Ming, Chauncy Billups, Chris Bosh

the list was nice except for Anthony Davis. What has he really achieved? No Mvp, no fmvp, no DPOY. Being injured most of his career, so he even doesn’t have longevity for his arguement. I’d take Ben Wallace and Mutombo over him. at least those guys have multiple DPOY awards.

No issue with either of those guys over him. I picked Anthony Davis because no one left had a playoff run like he had in 2020 and then combine it with the ridiculous numbers he’s had single season wise, I felt like he gets the nod based on that kind of peak but of course I had him last there, mainly the 2020 playoffs is what gets him in for me (and maybe a bit of my own bias)

[WarriorGM]

Okay if they add 25 but to replace any of the earlier 50 unless there was immediate controversy at the time the list was originally created seems deeply disrespectful of older players and older generations. For example I see people here questioning Sam Jones' inclusion a 10x champion who was the leading scorer on that team for multiple years? I just don't think it should be easy for anyone not of that era to contradict such a record.

[dhsilv2]

In 96-97 season the NBA came up with a list of the top 50 players off all time to coumarate the anniversary. What about adding an additional 25 players for the 75th year anniversary? My list is not in any order, it's not scientific, just names that popped into my head at the time. Who would you add? Who would you remove?

1.Lebron James
2.Tim Duncan
3.Kobe Bryant
4.Dirk Nowitski
5.Kevin Garnett
6.Ray Allen
7.Chris Bosh
8.Carmelo Anthony
9.Dwight Howard
10.Kawhi Lenoard
11.Jason Kidd
12.Steph Curry
13.Kevin Durant
14.James Harden
15. Giannis antetokounmpo
16. Chris Paul
17. Russell Westbrook
18. Klay Thompson
19. Allen Iverson
20. Paul Pierce
21. Anthony Davis
22. Damian lillard
23. Dwayne Wade
24. Steve Nash
25. Nikola Jokic

Interesting List but we'd have to instantly remove Klay, he shouldn't even be a consideration.

Some adds missing from your list.

Miller - an odd one as he was skipped the first time but he had a pretty nice career post 96 so we can fix his omission.
Billups - this one might not happen but he's got to be on the list
Gary Payton - Another playing at the time but he'd have some great years post 96 and again, he's an obvious add.
Pau Gasol - Underrated guy in general and might miss out but should be ahead of Klay by a mile. Likely over AD as well
Ginobili - has to be here imo. Too important to the game and just flat out too good. Allstar game stubs and all.
Mutombo - 4x DPOY, carried a team to the finals. Nuff said.

Now ideally we could fix the original list and remove a few but without that. Lets drop Jokic due to short career, Klay as he isn't in the top 100 considerations, I'd drop Melo but he won't be so he stays, AD drops, and I hate myself but maybe drop Lilard.

So we add Miller, Billups, Payton, and I hate it but Mutombo with Manu and Gasol being horrible snubs, assuming I can't fix the original list.

God this sucks...but at least we can all 100% agree to drop klay