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People actually critiquing this fight and not gonna pretend they were showing Mayweather V. the Big Show as prefight highlights?
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spykelee wrote:Not a huge Woodley fan, and I'm just sad I missed those 2-1 odds when the fight was announced. I would have put as much down as possible. Jake has slightly more of a chance than Logan does tonight.
ok but I'm going on the record as saying that conditioning will probably be the thing that decides that fight.
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I don't know why people are shocked that Floyd didn't knock him out. When has Floyd ever been that type of fighter? Even if this was 10 years ago he wouldn't have knocked him out. The main reason why Logan took the fight because he knew he wasn't going to have to worry about being embarrassed with first round knockout. Throw him in there with a brawler and he's done by round 3.
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I just watched the Mayweather v Paul pay-per-view on a free stream and I want my money back.
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Theo Ratliff wrote:I don't know why people are shocked that Floyd didn't knock him out. When has Floyd ever been that type of fighter? Even if this was 10 years ago he wouldn't have knocked him out. The main reason why Logan took the fight because he knew he wasn't going to have to worry about being embarrassed with first round knockout. Throw him in there with a brawler and he's done by round 3.
He's got 27 wins by knockout. Not even knocking down the **** Paul brother is laughable.
Then again he just pocketed an absurd amount of money to just dick around for a bit so joke's on everyone else I guess.
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ReasonablySober wrote:Theo Ratliff wrote:I don't know why people are shocked that Floyd didn't knock him out. When has Floyd ever been that type of fighter? Even if this was 10 years ago he wouldn't have knocked him out. The main reason why Logan took the fight because he knew he wasn't going to have to worry about being embarrassed with first round knockout. Throw him in there with a brawler and he's done by round 3.
He's got 27 wins by knockout. Not even knocking down the **** Paul brother is laughable.
Then again he just pocketed an absurd amount of money to just dick around for a bit so joke's on everyone else I guess.
I'm talking about actual knockouts. Not technical knockouts. He's had 3 of those during his career and the last one came in the 90's. Floyd is a tango dancer not a fighter.
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Theo Ratliff wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:Theo Ratliff wrote:I don't know why people are shocked that Floyd didn't knock him out. When has Floyd ever been that type of fighter? Even if this was 10 years ago he wouldn't have knocked him out. The main reason why Logan took the fight because he knew he wasn't going to have to worry about being embarrassed with first round knockout. Throw him in there with a brawler and he's done by round 3.
He's got 27 wins by knockout. Not even knocking down the **** Paul brother is laughable.
Then again he just pocketed an absurd amount of money to just dick around for a bit so joke's on everyone else I guess.
I'm talking about actual knockouts. Not technical knockouts. He's had 3 of those during his career and the last one came in the 90's. Floyd is a tango dancer not a fighter.
He was fighting Logan Paul.
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Floyd saw it as entertainment... He didn't train at all, had no abs and was content to just pick and pop but he never let his hands go....just kept walking into him and letting him hang on. I felt like he had a duty to represent boxing and combat sports as a whole here. That it isn't a joke in between those ropes. In that vein I think it's embarrassing. To let this guy go the distance, and win a couple rounds against one of the GOAT's lets them further their own narrative and who wants that? At least Woodley is going to come in looking to fight. It isn't going to be just "entertainment"
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These YouTube boys beating fighters and doing well against 50-0 boxes doesn’t really look good for the Conor would smash Zion type argument. he would but just saying it’s making fighters look bad.
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spykelee wrote:Cavsfansince84 wrote:spykelee wrote:
LMAO! Woodley has been a championship level fighter for like a decade and has put people to sleep. This is a guy who has trained boxing for the vast majority of his life and an athlete that even at 40 years old is in tremendous shape. I'm pretty sure you are overrating Jake Pauls skills. He has 0% chance. None.
Woodley is a wrestler who can throw hands but whose only real go to punch is an overhead right and mma guys are not at the level of boxers when it comes to putting on gloves and only throwing punches. I'm not saying I think JP will win but you are the one doing the over and underrating here which is why professional oddsmakers see it as an even fight. It could go either way.
Woodley has trained standup for decades. He knows to keep his hands up, and he knows how to throw proper punches, coupled with huge power and explosiveness, an elite athlete. Even if Jake manages to hit him and hurt him, which is unlikely imo, Woodley knows how to adjust and persevere. I maintain that Jake has no chance in this fight and the odds actually have Woodley as a favorite now as he should be. All the money must have rolled in when Woodley was a 2-1 underdog.
He has never demonstrated that he knows how to "throw proper punches"...not with his left hand or in 10oz gloves. Literally, show me a picture or gif of him throwing with his left hand or in combination over his entire career. Look up a highlight. It's just lead or counter right hands. The only image of him throwing with his left I found had him sorta throw a slappy jab to set up a right hand against Luque...and he got countered, KDd, and finished.
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Theo Ratliff wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:Theo Ratliff wrote:I don't know why people are shocked that Floyd didn't knock him out. When has Floyd ever been that type of fighter? Even if this was 10 years ago he wouldn't have knocked him out. The main reason why Logan took the fight because he knew he wasn't going to have to worry about being embarrassed with first round knockout. Throw him in there with a brawler and he's done by round 3.
He's got 27 wins by knockout. Not even knocking down the **** Paul brother is laughable.
Then again he just pocketed an absurd amount of money to just dick around for a bit so joke's on everyone else I guess.
I'm talking about actual knockouts. Not technical knockouts. He's had 3 of those during his career and the last one came in the 90's. Floyd is a tango dancer not a fighter.
But why are you talking about knockouts but not TKOs when the question is why Floyd couldn't finish him?
Stinging punches in combination that opponents don't see eff them up. Floyd has teh capacity to put those together. He didn't so much as hurt the dude, nevermind come close to finishing him. That's a serious discredit to him.
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Dupp wrote:These YouTube boys beating fighters and doing well against 50-0 boxes doesn’t really look good for the Conor would smash Zion type argument. he would but just saying it’s making fighters look bad.
I agree.
Except that Paul has one component that we don't know Zion has, and that's an ability to get smashed in the mouth and not turtle. Not everyone does. He's clearly a tough who has done soem rough sparring and come out the other end. I feel like Zion (I don't even know who this is TBH) takes one hard punch to the nose and turns to avoid. It's what almost everyone does.
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Yea and? There's more to boxing and fighting than throwing combos. He looks to setup and throw huge right hands. Hands that he has huge power in and has put guys to sleep with. He's also a guy that understands footwork, distance, movement and timing. He's an elite and explosive athlete with championship experience who knows what it feels like to be hurt. He isn't coming here to entertain. Don't get me wrong I don't love Woodley but his athletic prowess and experience should carry this fight never mind the rest of it.cowboyronnie wrote:spykelee wrote:Cavsfansince84 wrote:
Woodley is a wrestler who can throw hands but whose only real go to punch is an overhead right and mma guys are not at the level of boxers when it comes to putting on gloves and only throwing punches. I'm not saying I think JP will win but you are the one doing the over and underrating here which is why professional oddsmakers see it as an even fight. It could go either way.
Woodley has trained standup for decades. He knows to keep his hands up, and he knows how to throw proper punches, coupled with huge power and explosiveness, an elite athlete. Even if Jake manages to hit him and hurt him, which is unlikely imo, Woodley knows how to adjust and persevere. I maintain that Jake has no chance in this fight and the odds actually have Woodley as a favorite now as he should be. All the money must have rolled in when Woodley was a 2-1 underdog.
He has never demonstrated that he knows how to "throw proper punches"...not with his left hand or in 10oz gloves. Literally, show me a picture or gif of him throwing with his left hand or in combination over his entire career. Look up a highlight. It's just lead or counter right hands. The only image of him throwing with his left I found had him sorta throw a slappy jab to set up a right hand against Luque...and he got countered, KDd, and finished.
Paul boys only hope is to pay him off to let him stand like they probably did for Floyd. Logan had his hands down for half that fight ffs
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spykelee wrote:Yea and? There's more to boxing and fighting than throwing combos.
More to fighting than ever, ever, EVER throwing a combination? There's not. You can't win a boxing match without throwing a combination. You have to have a lead hand in some capacity.
Also, you cannot turn your knuckles over in a right hand with 10oz gloves like you can in 4s. Nor can you just sprint at your opponent. Your opponent is bladed in a way that they will **** you up coming in like that. You can't come over the top of someone standing perpendicular, like boxers do but MMAers don't.
These, and dozens of others, are distinct differences that annul most of Woodley's already limited game.
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Paul boys only hope is to pay him off to let him stand like they probably did for Floyd. Logan had his hands down for half that fight ffs
You don't know what you're looking at.
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Who knew Paul would become more likable the longer he got into the fight game?
Who knew Paul would become more likable the longer he got into the fight game?
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Who knew Paul would become more likable the longer he got into the fight game?
Paul knows how to pick opponents.
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Don’t care how much a douche he is he’s won me over with his crusade over ufc fighter pay.
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