JonFromVA wrote:What I wonder is what was Markkanen and/or the Bulls going to do if Lauri's best offer was the MLE?
He was going to take the QO I’m assuming. I don’t think they pulled it.
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JonFromVA wrote:What I wonder is what was Markkanen and/or the Bulls going to do if Lauri's best offer was the MLE?
LivingLegend wrote:JonFromVA wrote:jbk1234 wrote:I don't think he's great, but he had the best advanced stats on the team over the last two years and was clearly missed when he was out (which was admittedly too often). Due to his versatility, he balanced an imbalanced roster in a way that I don't see Lauri doing.
I wish I liked this trade more, but I would've taken DJJ and the first.
Larry made us better, no doubt about that, but there's also little doubt one of the imbalances on the roster is shooting and drafting Mobley has not likely helped that - at least in the short term.
I was looking forward to Larry helping Evan develop his skills because they have a lot of the same all-around skills, but in that same sense they're kind of redundant.
What happens with Kevin is certainly a big question and as one of the big proponents of dumping him ASAP, surely you see the shooting hole that creates sooner if not later.
Just because this roster needs shooting doesn't mean you have to go get another PF to do so which creates another disaster of a lineup.
The Cavs could have traded Nance for Ross, Reddish, either or both of the Utah veterans, ECT. All of which would have been a better fit than Lauri. This is just flat out embarrassing
JonFromVA wrote:LivingLegend wrote:JonFromVA wrote:
Larry made us better, no doubt about that, but there's also little doubt one of the imbalances on the roster is shooting and drafting Mobley has not likely helped that - at least in the short term.
I was looking forward to Larry helping Evan develop his skills because they have a lot of the same all-around skills, but in that same sense they're kind of redundant.
What happens with Kevin is certainly a big question and as one of the big proponents of dumping him ASAP, surely you see the shooting hole that creates sooner if not later.
Just because this roster needs shooting doesn't mean you have to go get another PF to do so which creates another disaster of a lineup.
The Cavs could have traded Nance for Ross, Reddish, either or both of the Utah veterans, ECT. All of which would have been a better fit than Lauri. This is just flat out embarrassing
In a swamp of bad choices we picked shooting, talent, length, and youth.
We could have done worse.
We also could have just kept Larry.
But the fit of this team is going to continue to be a big question mark until we decide what to do with Sexland/Okoro.
Until that happens, at least we have another shooter.
I'm having a difficult time disagreeing with Legend here. We're basically making an all-in bet on big men, before we buyout the last big we overpaid.LivingLegend wrote:JonFromVA wrote:LivingLegend wrote:
Just because this roster needs shooting doesn't mean you have to go get another PF to do so which creates another disaster of a lineup.
The Cavs could have traded Nance for Ross, Reddish, either or both of the Utah veterans, ECT. All of which would have been a better fit than Lauri. This is just flat out embarrassing
In a swamp of bad choices we picked shooting, talent, length, and youth.
We could have done worse.
We also could have just kept Larry.
But the fit of this team is going to continue to be a big question mark until we decide what to do with Sexland/Okoro.
Until that happens, at least we have another shooter.
So we are just going to continue to triple down on terrible roster construction in the meantime just for the sake of making a move? That's not even to mention the contract we gave him in the process
LivingLegend wrote:JonFromVA wrote:LivingLegend wrote:
Just because this roster needs shooting doesn't mean you have to go get another PF to do so which creates another disaster of a lineup.
The Cavs could have traded Nance for Ross, Reddish, either or both of the Utah veterans, ECT. All of which would have been a better fit than Lauri. This is just flat out embarrassing
In a swamp of bad choices we picked shooting, talent, length, and youth.
We could have done worse.
We also could have just kept Larry.
But the fit of this team is going to continue to be a big question mark until we decide what to do with Sexland/Okoro.
Until that happens, at least we have another shooter.
So we are just going to continue to triple down on terrible roster construction in the meantime just for the sake of making a move? That's not even to mention the contract we gave him in the process
jbk1234 wrote:I'm having a difficult time disagreeing with Legend here. We're basically making an all-in bet on big men, before we buyout the last big we overpaid.LivingLegend wrote:JonFromVA wrote:
In a swamp of bad choices we picked shooting, talent, length, and youth.
We could have done worse.
We also could have just kept Larry.
But the fit of this team is going to continue to be a big question mark until we decide what to do with Sexland/Okoro.
Until that happens, at least we have another shooter.
So we are just going to continue to triple down on terrible roster construction in the meantime just for the sake of making a move? That's not even to mention the contract we gave him in the process
JonFromVA wrote:jbk1234 wrote:I'm having a difficult time disagreeing with Legend here. We're basically making an all-in bet on big men, before we buyout the last big we overpaid.LivingLegend wrote:
So we are just going to continue to triple down on terrible roster construction in the meantime just for the sake of making a move? That's not even to mention the contract we gave him in the process
Sounds like the right order to me, might even be connected in that they may not have been willing to buy Love out without a viable replacement. Larry can knock down an open 3, but he has 0 gravity.
Once Love is off the books our frontcourt payroll will be similar to Atlanta's with Capella, Collins, and Gallanari.
LivingLegend wrote:JonFromVA wrote:jbk1234 wrote:I'm having a difficult time disagreeing with Legend here. We're basically making an all-in bet on big men, before we buyout the last big we overpaid.
Sounds like the right order to me, might even be connected in that they may not have been willing to buy Love out without a viable replacement. Larry can knock down an open 3, but he has 0 gravity.
Once Love is off the books our frontcourt payroll will be similar to Atlanta's with Capella, Collins, and Gallanari.
I think the part thats missing here is that we took our biggest trade asset and DIDNT use it to address the biggest weakness of the team (SF). How TF does that even happen.
They wasted a Willy Wonka golden ticket on a 3rd helping of pie instead of their 1st helping of steak.
KuruptedCav wrote:Moving on, at least his offensive gravity will allow Okoro to run at SF without destroying spacing.
Or if we end up sliding Okoro to the 2 one day, it will help. But currently, we're still undersized 1-3, we got worse defensively at the 4, and the ability of Nance to switch out on smaller players is gone.KuruptedCav wrote:Moving on, at least his offensive gravity will allow Okoro to run at SF without destroying spacing.
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jbk1234 wrote:Or if we end up sliding Okoro to the 2 one day, it will help. But currently, we're still undersized 1-3, we got worse defensively at the 4, and the ability of Nance to switch out on smaller players is gone.KuruptedCav wrote:Moving on, at least his offensive gravity will allow Okoro to run at SF without destroying spacing.
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kapo wrote:My wishlist as a Markkanen fan:
1. Let Lauri use and develop his mid range game
2. Let Lauri run the floor and even push the ball himself to fast breaks
Markkanen is loyal to the system, so these are coaching decisions.
jbk1234 wrote:I don't think the Cavs are good enough defensively to prioritize spacing above all else this way.
Also, our softness just increased to Charmin levels.
I think we just traded our best win-now player for another we'll-see young guy. I suspect the second best offer for Lauri wasn't anywhere near this good, in terms of dollars or trade compensation.
I'm not sure Lauri is better than Hartenstein.
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