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Re: Official Celtics 2021-22 Off-Season Thread 

Post#1221 » by bucknersrevenge » Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:47 pm

Great interview with Ime. And you know everyone's gonna ask him about Nia Long.

and that's "MR. Irrelevant" to you!!

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Post#1222 » by Hal14 » Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:05 pm

bucknersrevenge wrote:Great interview with Ime. And you know everyone's gonna ask him about Nia Long.


Nice.

This what, the 3rd, 4th maybe 5th piece of content I've seen now where Udoka keeps mentioning this idea of really working with the Jays to become better play makers.

He really seems to be beating it like a dead horse.

I love it.

and haha, love his response and reaction to jalen's question about Nia Long. Udoka sure has a likable personality.
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Post#1223 » by threrf23 » Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:44 am

RickyDizzle wrote:

Horford's triumphant return is to play 15 minutes per game for 27.5 million per year?


I'd rather him play low minutes on fresh legs than big minutes on worn legs.

With fresh legs/knees, he is still a top 10-20ish player IMO.
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Post#1224 » by BostonCouchGM » Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:49 am

threrf23 wrote:
RickyDizzle wrote:

Horford's triumphant return is to play 15 minutes per game for 27.5 million per year?


I'd rather him play low minutes on fresh legs than big minutes on worn legs.

With fresh legs/knees, he is still a top 10-20ish player IMO.


what's that now?
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Post#1225 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:09 am

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Post#1226 » by Gomes3PC » Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:23 pm

Ime knows we are only going to be as good as our stars. Love to hear he's focused on helping the Jays take a leap - they both have another level in them, but a new voice like Ime's could be the way to achieve it.
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Post#1227 » by ParticleMan » Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:21 pm

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threrf23 wrote:
RickyDizzle wrote:

Horford's triumphant return is to play 15 minutes per game for 27.5 million per year?


I'd rather him play low minutes on fresh legs than big minutes on worn legs.

With fresh legs/knees, he is still a top 10-20ish player IMO.


what's that now?


:o yeah that seems excessive. he might be a top 10-20 at the C position :lol: .
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Post#1228 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:08 pm

I'm expecting Horford to be a very solid 25 mpg player for the Celtics this year. Big Al's numbers were very good last year and OKC shut him down not because he was injured but because they were winning too many games and they wanted a high draft pick also they wanted to get a look at young guys. Big Al will be fine.

Big Al had 14 ppg, 6.5 rpg 45% FG and 37% 3PT in 27 minutes last year. I am expecting the same this year, maybe a little lower in points.
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Post#1229 » by snowman » Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:31 pm

With the recent extensions in place, I think our starting line up is pretty much set.
Smart, Richardson, Brown, Tatum and Timelord.
Timelord over Horford starting to save Horfords body and give the inside presence / rebounding / shot blocking in the starting unit.

Our 2nd team is set too.
Pritchard, Schroder, Nesmith, ( ??? ) Horford.
I think that our 2nd team needs an enforcer at the 4. We have potentially enough shooting with Pritchard, Nesmith and Horford. We have the slashing / drive to the hoop in Schroder. I think Fernando should be our backup 4, unless we trade for someone. Things are looking bleak on that front though. Fernando is much better defensively and a better rebounder than Parker or G. Will. He brings the energy, defense, inside presence and rebounding that our 2nd team lacks when G. Will or Parker is on the floor. He can be, somewhat, to the 2nd unit, that Timelord brings to the starters. This also balances out the floor spacing and the lineup.

Langford, Parker and Kanter are pretty good for a 3rd team. Just need to trade Edwards, Dunn and G. Will.
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Post#1230 » by Parliament10 » Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:48 pm

snowman wrote:With the recent extensions in place, I think our starting line up is pretty much set.
Smart, Richardson, Brown, Tatum and Timelord.
Timelord over Horford starting to save Horfords body and give the inside presence / rebounding / shot blocking in the starting unit.

Our 2nd team is set too.
Pritchard, Schroder, Nesmith, ( ??? ) Horford.
I think that our 2nd team needs an enforcer at the 4. We have potentially enough shooting with Pritchard, Nesmith and Horford. We have the slashing / drive to the hoop in Schroder. I think Fernando should be our backup 4, unless we trade for someone. Things are looking bleak on that front though. Fernando is much better defensively and a better rebounder than Parker or G. Will. He brings the energy, defense, inside presence and rebounding that our 2nd team lacks when G. Will or Parker is on the floor. He can be, somewhat, to the 2nd unit, that Timelord brings to the starters. This also balances out the floor spacing and the lineup.

Langford, Parker and Kanter are pretty good for a 3rd team. Just need to trade Edwards, Dunn and G. Will.

Starters: Smart - Brown - Tatum - (????) - R. Williams
Rotation: Schröder - Richardson - Nesmith - Fernando - Horford
Reserves:Pritchard - Langford - G. Williams/Parker? - Kanter
20-Man: Dunn? - Edwards?



I still want to See Tatum at the 3, and Brown at the 2. That looks like it may be slipping away, though.
We need a Starting PF (other than Tatum), IMO.

Dunn and Edwards are my ones to move. Not so sure about Parker.
G. Williams can switch off pretty well. I'd keep him, on his Rookie Contract.
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Post#1231 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:58 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
snowman wrote:With the recent extensions in place, I think our starting line up is pretty much set.
Smart, Richardson, Brown, Tatum and Timelord.
Timelord over Horford starting to save Horfords body and give the inside presence / rebounding / shot blocking in the starting unit.

Our 2nd team is set too.
Pritchard, Schroder, Nesmith, ( ??? ) Horford.
I think that our 2nd team needs an enforcer at the 4. We have potentially enough shooting with Pritchard, Nesmith and Horford. We have the slashing / drive to the hoop in Schroder. I think Fernando should be our backup 4, unless we trade for someone. Things are looking bleak on that front though. Fernando is much better defensively and a better rebounder than Parker or G. Will. He brings the energy, defense, inside presence and rebounding that our 2nd team lacks when G. Will or Parker is on the floor. He can be, somewhat, to the 2nd unit, that Timelord brings to the starters. This also balances out the floor spacing and the lineup.

Langford, Parker and Kanter are pretty good for a 3rd team. Just need to trade Edwards, Dunn and G. Will.

Starters: Smart - Brown - Tatum - (????) - R. Williams
Rotation: Schröder - Richardson - Nesmith - Fernando - Horford
Reserves:Pritchard - Langford - G. Williams/Parker? - Kanter
20-Man: Dunn? - Edwards?



I still want to See Tatum at the 3, and Brown at the 2. That looks like it may be slipping away, though.
We need a Starting PF (other than Tatum), IMO.

Dunn and Edwards are my ones to move. Not so sure about Parker.
G. Williams can switch off pretty well. I'd keep him, on his Rookie Contract.

Pritchard is going to take Richardson's spot on the 2nd team and one of Richardson/Nesmith will start. Kanter/G Williams/Parker will be the 2nd team PF depending on matchups. That' what I expect. Langford odd man out. Dunn, Edwards, Fernando deep bench.
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Post#1232 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:25 pm

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Post#1234 » by moonie_mcgee » Sat Aug 28, 2021 12:43 am

Celts17Pride wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
snowman wrote:With the recent extensions in place, I think our starting line up is pretty much set.
Smart, Richardson, Brown, Tatum and Timelord.
Timelord over Horford starting to save Horfords body and give the inside presence / rebounding / shot blocking in the starting unit.

Our 2nd team is set too.
Pritchard, Schroder, Nesmith, ( ??? ) Horford.
I think that our 2nd team needs an enforcer at the 4. We have potentially enough shooting with Pritchard, Nesmith and Horford. We have the slashing / drive to the hoop in Schroder. I think Fernando should be our backup 4, unless we trade for someone. Things are looking bleak on that front though. Fernando is much better defensively and a better rebounder than Parker or G. Will. He brings the energy, defense, inside presence and rebounding that our 2nd team lacks when G. Will or Parker is on the floor. He can be, somewhat, to the 2nd unit, that Timelord brings to the starters. This also balances out the floor spacing and the lineup.

Langford, Parker and Kanter are pretty good for a 3rd team. Just need to trade Edwards, Dunn and G. Will.

Starters: Smart - Brown - Tatum - (????) - R. Williams
Rotation: Schröder - Richardson - Nesmith - Fernando - Horford
Reserves:Pritchard - Langford - G. Williams/Parker? - Kanter
20-Man: Dunn? - Edwards?



I still want to See Tatum at the 3, and Brown at the 2. That looks like it may be slipping away, though.
We need a Starting PF (other than Tatum), IMO.

Dunn and Edwards are my ones to move. Not so sure about Parker.
G. Williams can switch off pretty well. I'd keep him, on his Rookie Contract.

Pritchard is going to take Richardson's spot on the 2nd team and one of Richardson/Nesmith will start. Kanter/G Williams/Parker will be the 2nd team PF depending on matchups. That' what I expect. Langford odd man out. Dunn, Edwards, Fernando deep bench.


Minutes will be found. I bet Nesmith gets the starting 2 spot. He has great size, can shoot and he has the energy to defend 2s. Celtsxwill continue with JB and JT as fwds.
Schroder, Pritch, Richardson and Horford will be the 2nd unit w Bruno, Grant and Parker vying for that last spot. Them plus Kanter and Romey will get minutes over the season. I like it tbh. Now if they play to their ability we're a top 4 team. Can't wait for the retribution tour and showing the Hawks and Knicks our new roster and commitment.

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Post#1235 » by moonie_mcgee » Sat Aug 28, 2021 12:50 am

snowman wrote:With the recent extensions in place, I think our starting line up is pretty much set.
Smart, Richardson, Brown, Tatum and Timelord.
Timelord over Horford starting to save Horfords body and give the inside presence / rebounding / shot blocking in the starting unit.

Our 2nd team is set too.
Pritchard, Schroder, Nesmith, ( ??? ) Horford.
I think that our 2nd team needs an enforcer at the 4. We have potentially enough shooting with Pritchard, Nesmith and Horford. We have the slashing / drive to the hoop in Schroder. I think Fernando should be our backup 4, unless we trade for someone. Things are looking bleak on that front though. Fernando is much better defensively and a better rebounder than Parker or G. Will. He brings the energy, defense, inside presence and rebounding that our 2nd team lacks when G. Will or Parker is on the floor. He can be, somewhat, to the 2nd unit, that Timelord brings to the starters. This also balances out the floor spacing and the lineup.

Langford, Parker and Kanter are pretty good for a 3rd team. Just need to trade Edwards, Dunn and G. Will.

That may be the closing unit for their defense but I wouldn't start Smart and Richardson. I bet that goes to Nesmith. He's gonna get alot of open looks. Richardson is a great utility knife off the bench and can sub for multiple guys. Plus he's secure with a new contract so he should be cool with it. Winning is the goal now and everyone needs to buy into it. We are much better up and down the roster than last year.
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Post#1236 » by Hal14 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:01 am

snowman wrote:With the recent extensions in place, I think our starting line up is pretty much set.
Smart, Richardson, Brown, Tatum and Timelord.
Timelord over Horford starting to save Horfords body.

Horford's body isn't the one that needs saving.

Are you seriously not aware of Rob's injury history?

Bone edema in his hip.

PAES in his knees.

Ankle sprain which caused him to miss playoff games last year.

Turf toe.

Rob and Al. One of them (Al) has proven time and time again, year after year that he's reliable, that he's durable and his body can handle the pounding that comes with being a starter and playing an 82 game season. The other guy (rob) has not proven any of that.

Last yr Horford played 28 mins a game. he sarted in every game he played in. and it would have been more more mins but the thunder were tanking. Rob meanwhile, averaged only 18 mins a game and came off the bench most of the time because his body can't handle starting.

Is it really a question who should start?

Sure, maybe if rom can prove that he can stay healthy this season then maybe in 2022-2023 you put him in the starting lineup. By then horford will be a year older and less able to handle starter's mins anyways,.

Who cares rob just signed an extension? the extension doesn't kick in till 2022-2023 season. This year in 2021-2022, Rob is making like $4 mil and horford is making like $28 mil.

You think horford's body needs saving cause he's 35? Look at Lebron, CP3, PJ Tucker, Lowry, Ariza, Melo, Dwight Howard. They're doing just fine. Dudes careers are lasting longer these days.
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Post#1237 » by Hal14 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:08 am

moonie_mcgee wrote:
snowman wrote:With the recent extensions in place, I think our starting line up is pretty much set.
Smart, Richardson, Brown, Tatum and Timelord.
Timelord over Horford starting to save Horfords body and give the inside presence / rebounding / shot blocking in the starting unit.

Our 2nd team is set too.
Pritchard, Schroder, Nesmith, ( ??? ) Horford.
I think that our 2nd team needs an enforcer at the 4. We have potentially enough shooting with Pritchard, Nesmith and Horford. We have the slashing / drive to the hoop in Schroder. I think Fernando should be our backup 4, unless we trade for someone. Things are looking bleak on that front though. Fernando is much better defensively and a better rebounder than Parker or G. Will. He brings the energy, defense, inside presence and rebounding that our 2nd team lacks when G. Will or Parker is on the floor. He can be, somewhat, to the 2nd unit, that Timelord brings to the starters. This also balances out the floor spacing and the lineup.

Langford, Parker and Kanter are pretty good for a 3rd team. Just need to trade Edwards, Dunn and G. Will.

That may be the closing unit for their defense but I wouldn't start Smart and Richardson. I bet that goes to Nesmith. He's gonna get alot of open looks. Richardson is a great utility knife off the bench and can sub for multiple guys. Plus he's secure with a new contract so he should be cool with it. Winning is the goal now and everyone needs to buy into it. We are much better up and down the roster than last year.

Richardson is a much better, more proven player than Nesmith. Richardson is a much better defender. Nesmith couldn't even guard dudes in the summer league who won't even make an NBA roster.

I like Nesmith and think one day he could develop into a good player. But you don't start a 21 yr old kid on a team that has the potential to be a legit top 4 team in the conference - not when you have better options like Smart, Richardson, Schroder.

Smart/Richardson/Schroder should all play 28-31 mins a game.

Nesmith/Pritchard/Langford a.ka. our young kids who are projects who are unproven? 15-20 mins a game.
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Post#1239 » by Parliament10 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 12:51 pm

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Very Nice.
Good to see these Guys getting back into the swing of things.
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Post#1240 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:21 pm

Ex-Celtic Semi, Current Celtic Enes, Future Celtic Brad Beal. Tatum must be pooping during the run but he should be there.

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