OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread

[robillionaire]

this was BallSac's last post, in the morning hours of January 6th

"Let's get this party started. Some wild days ahead. Like I said before it's 73 million plus Trump supporters vs. a stack of fraudulent ballots and a platoon of Biden cardboard cutouts. It's why the prez asked supporters to come to D.C. The people will not be denied...or it may be the beginning of the end of the republic as we know it. Let's see what they choose."

I said I hope the police curbstomp him and I got a warning for that and personally I think it should be rescinded but whatever

[NYKnickerbocker]

The Alabama State Health Officer says they are reaching their breaking point.

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And here we the Governor of Mississippi and he is leading his residents off the end of the cliff. Does he truly believes this or is it just some red meat for the masses while his big donors pay him off? This is so crazy.

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lol I ain’t tryna get to heaven cause I chose to be stupid

[Capn'O]

I won't say anything about this individual as I got a warning, ironically it was on 1/6, and also if you check this user's profile

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so yeah I'm just gonna say it I think he's in jail or he's the guy who tased himself in the ballsac and died

Oh I thought you were drawing a behavioral connection to 1/6

If that was taped on 1/6 then yeah he was roiding on something insurrectionary

You were right, I was drawing a behavioral connection to 1/6

I mean the warning I got for talking about BallSac was on 1/6 even though he never posted again

Anyway BSB is probably in jail and speaking of jail, when's Trump supposed to be in there, inquiring minds need to know. Certainly he isn't still running around free with absolutely zero accountability?!?!?

Someone clearly isn't taking into account all the options of why that poster hasn't posted.

[Clyde_Style]

I won't say anything about this individual as I got a warning, ironically it was on 1/6, and also if you check this user's profile

Last active:Wed Jan 6, 2021 12:17 am
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so yeah I'm just gonna say it I think he's in jail or he's the guy who tased himself in the ballsac and died

Oh I thought you were drawing a behavioral connection to 1/6

If that was taped on 1/6 then yeah he was roiding on something insurrectionary

You were right, I was drawing a behavioral connection to 1/6

I mean the warning I got for talking about BallSac was on 1/6 even though he never posted again

Anyway BSB is probably in jail and speaking of jail, when's Trump supposed to be in there, inquiring minds need to know. Certainly he isn't still running around free with absolutely zero accountability?!?!?

The wheels of justice grind slowly, but they are grinding away quite convincingly aside from the hundreds of arrests of 1/6 capitol hooligans.

Trump’s right-hand man Weisselberg is going to jail if he doesn’t flip, but the COO Calamari has evidently flipped so it won’t matter. The NYC grand jury already issued those indictments and more are coming. Letitia James has upgraded her state probe from civil to criminal charges pending. And both the city and state offices are pooling their information. It is all basically a complete takedown of the Trump Org culminating with indictments of Trump himself though his kids may get charged before he does.

Look up Kurson. A Kushner insider. Kurson received a Trump pardon. Didn’t protect him. Arrested.

Look up Tom Barrack. Headed the woefully corrupt Inauguration Committee and was key to Kushner and Trump’s dirty dealings in the Middle East. Arrested

The whole family is about to get squeezed and don’t be surprised if Ivanka and Kushner flip or even already have. They are not taking the fall if they can help it.

Meanwhile the Atlanta grand jury steams ahead and will indict Trump for election fraud

And Washington DC is doing the same with the Inauguration funds

So yeah, the dragnet is tightening fast. Rudy will be arrested shortly and he’s dying in prison if he doesn’t flip on Trump. And Trump has already kicked him to the curb, so expect him to while he still has any faculties left to cooperate with.

Bannon will probably be indicted soon too

And Roger Stone is deep in the muck with 1/6 and his pardon does not protect him for that

So, yeah, Trump will be arrested and put on trial.

[robillionaire]

Oh I thought you were drawing a behavioral connection to 1/6

If that was taped on 1/6 then yeah he was roiding on something insurrectionary

You were right, I was drawing a behavioral connection to 1/6

I mean the warning I got for talking about BallSac was on 1/6 even though he never posted again

Anyway BSB is probably in jail and speaking of jail, when's Trump supposed to be in there, inquiring minds need to know. Certainly he isn't still running around free with absolutely zero accountability?!?!?

Someone clearly isn't taking into account all the options of why that poster hasn't posted.

[BKlutch]

The latest study of 800,000 people shows that while you could get myocarditis from the vaccine, it’s over 5 times more likely the unvaccinated will get it.

Another myth dispelled.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/25/health/covid-myocarditis-vaccine.html

[BKlutch]

Oh I thought you were drawing a behavioral connection to 1/6

If that was taped on 1/6 then yeah he was roiding on something insurrectionary

You were right, I was drawing a behavioral connection to 1/6

I mean the warning I got for talking about BallSac was on 1/6 even though he never posted again

Anyway BSB is probably in jail and speaking of jail, when's Trump supposed to be in there, inquiring minds need to know. Certainly he isn't still running around free with absolutely zero accountability?!?!?

Someone clearly isn't taking into account all the options of why that poster hasn't posted.

From what he wrote, I hope one of those other options is the reason.

[Clyde_Style]

Almost 170,000 newly documented infections on Friday alone

The U.S. has more known active infections than any other country. I realize other countries may have poor data like Russia that suppresses it or India which is overwhelmed so it is not a truly reliable assertion. Nonetheless, that America is even in question for the lead on current cases is pretty appalling considering the resources we have vs. other less fortunate countries

[robillionaire]

Almost 170,000 newly documented infections on Friday alone

The U.S. has more known active infections than any other country. I realize other countries may have poor data like Russia that suppresses it or India which is overwhelmed so it is not a truly reliable assertion. Nonetheless, that America is even in question for the lead on current cases is pretty appalling considering the resources we have vs. other less fortunate countries

I’m starting to think maybe we should just give the vaccines away to the other countries who value their lives and the lives of others in their society a little more than the US does. Plus being in shorter supply might make people want to get them. People in our consumer driven society only want things that are perceived as rare. In fact maybe instead of free, we should start charging $100 for them but then put them out for $20 a pop on a Black Friday doorbuster sale. Maybe that will finally get the attention of the plague hogs since people laying in the hallways in the hospitals don’t seem to bother them

[Clyde_Style]

Almost 170,000 newly documented infections on Friday alone

The U.S. has more known active infections than any other country. I realize other countries may have poor data like Russia that suppresses it or India which is overwhelmed so it is not a truly reliable assertion. Nonetheless, that America is even in question for the lead on current cases is pretty appalling considering the resources we have vs. other less fortunate countries

I’m starting to think maybe we should just give the vaccines away to the other countries who value their lives and the lives of others in their society a little more than the US does. Plus being in shorter supply might make people want to get them. People in our consumer driven society only want things that are perceived as rare. In fact maybe instead of free, we should start charging $100 for them but then put them out for $20 a pop on a Black Friday doorbuster sale. Maybe that will finally get the attention of the plague hogs since people laying in the hallways in the hospitals don’t seem to bother them

Just save one booster shot pour moi. I’ll be five months in a month. I think the majority of American value their free shots, but we have a massive minority that does not

[spree8]

I will say that you obviously have a closely held fear that this vaccine may do you harm. I will not try and change your mind about that. That said, you also have a responsibility to your community, i.e. the people you come into close contact with on a daily basis. So I have a couple of questions for you:

1. Have you had a serious conversation with you doctor about this issue? What was their medical advice?

2. Do you take any precautions when you go into public, i.e. indoor shopping, eating, movies, concerts, etc.

For sure, mainly because of how quickly it came out and the issues with the J&J vaccine. Plus this doctor I saw on TV named Dr. Hooman Noorchashm talking about the natural immunity vs vaccine topic. There are others too, but I remember him off hand.

My doctor said I should take it, but my girlfriend’s doctor said not to after she was hospitalized for a week from the virus (she had pneumonia and got the plasma because it was so bad).

I know people who’ve been fine after taking the vaccine and others who said they felt like they were dying for a few days. It def scares me especially with the other possible side effects (heart inflammation) and all.

But yes, I know I should be helping to protect others, and I try to stay away from indoor places… when I do things it’s mainly outdoors, beaches, parks, pool, basketball court, etc, but distance from strangers. If I have to go to a public place indoors, I always wear my N95 mask.

I understand that there were some problems with the J&J vaccine (btw, fck the Johnson brothers ... I'm glad I got the Pfizer vaccine to be honest).

So, I have two questions:

1. I don't understand what your girlfriend's COVID-related pneumonia has to do with why HER doctor suggested that you not get vaxxed, when YOUR doctor told you the opposite, i.e. to take the vaccine; and

2. Would you be more inclined to take the vaccine if you could get the Pfizer shots, which are now FDA approved?

I will say that the first 24 hours after each vaccination I felt fine but the next 48 hours after that, I felt like crap ... like I had the flu. Yeah, it sucked but it's better than getting COVID and either dealing with the residual permanent conditions for the rest of your life and/or dying, IMO.

I would ask you to have another conversation with YOUR doctor and tell him what your concerns are. Ask him if the Pfizer vaccine is available to you. If you don't have any underlying physical conditions, like my 91-year-old mother has (she has a blood disorder which compromises her immune system which is further complicated by the fact that she also suffers from "off the charts" rheumatoid arthritis bc the medications for each conflict and therefore have to be balanced out). She got both shots of the Pfizer, felt like crap for a few days, and recovered. She's doing fine now.

EDIT: Zero COVID deaths in Iceland.

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It was really just because a doctor was advising someone (my gf) who had the virus not to get it. That in general gave me pause. Combined with the other talk, it was enough for me to wrestle with the idea.

If/when I do take it, I’m likely going with the Pfizer one. I am leaning towards it, but still wanna do some more due diligence… like meeting with my doctor again and getting an antibody test. According to this Virologist, Dr. Shane Crotty, immunity for previously infected people is most robust at 6-8 months. I’m at the 6 month mark now. But again, I’m leaning towards it.

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[HarthorneWingo]

For sure, mainly because of how quickly it came out and the issues with the J&J vaccine. Plus this doctor I saw on TV named Dr. Hooman Noorchashm talking about the natural immunity vs vaccine topic. There are others too, but I remember him off hand.

My doctor said I should take it, but my girlfriend’s doctor said not to after she was hospitalized for a week from the virus (she had pneumonia and got the plasma because it was so bad).

I know people who’ve been fine after taking the vaccine and others who said they felt like they were dying for a few days. It def scares me especially with the other possible side effects (heart inflammation) and all.

But yes, I know I should be helping to protect others, and I try to stay away from indoor places… when I do things it’s mainly outdoors, beaches, parks, pool, basketball court, etc, but distance from strangers. If I have to go to a public place indoors, I always wear my N95 mask.

I understand that there were some problems with the J&J vaccine (btw, fck the Johnson brothers ... I'm glad I got the Pfizer vaccine to be honest).

So, I have two questions:

1. I don't understand what your girlfriend's COVID-related pneumonia has to do with why HER doctor suggested that you not get vaxxed, when YOUR doctor told you the opposite, i.e. to take the vaccine; and

2. Would you be more inclined to take the vaccine if you could get the Pfizer shots, which are now FDA approved?

I will say that the first 24 hours after each vaccination I felt fine but the next 48 hours after that, I felt like crap ... like I had the flu. Yeah, it sucked but it's better than getting COVID and either dealing with the residual permanent conditions for the rest of your life and/or dying, IMO.

I would ask you to have another conversation with YOUR doctor and tell him what your concerns are. Ask him if the Pfizer vaccine is available to you. If you don't have any underlying physical conditions, like my 91-year-old mother has (she has a blood disorder which compromises her immune system which is further complicated by the fact that she also suffers from "off the charts" rheumatoid arthritis bc the medications for each conflict and therefore have to be balanced out). She got both shots of the Pfizer, felt like crap for a few days, and recovered. She's doing fine now.

EDIT: Zero COVID deaths in Iceland.

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It was really just because a doctor was advising someone (my gf) who had the virus not to get it. That in general gave me pause. Combined with the other talk, it was enough for me to wrestle with the idea.

If/when I do take it, I’m likely going with the Pfizer one. I am leaning towards it, but still wanna do some more due diligence… like meeting with my doctor again and getting an antibody test. According to this Virologist, Dr. Shane Crotty, immunity for previously infected people is most robust at 6-8 months. I’m at the 6 month mark now. But again, I’m leaning towards it.

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Glad to hear that you’re doing your homework and keeping an open mind by meeting with your doctor. Definitely go with the Pfizer if/when you get it.

How’s your gf doing now?

[spree8]

I understand that there were some problems with the J&J vaccine (btw, fck the Johnson brothers ... I'm glad I got the Pfizer vaccine to be honest).

So, I have two questions:

1. I don't understand what your girlfriend's COVID-related pneumonia has to do with why HER doctor suggested that you not get vaxxed, when YOUR doctor told you the opposite, i.e. to take the vaccine; and

2. Would you be more inclined to take the vaccine if you could get the Pfizer shots, which are now FDA approved?

I will say that the first 24 hours after each vaccination I felt fine but the next 48 hours after that, I felt like crap ... like I had the flu. Yeah, it sucked but it's better than getting COVID and either dealing with the residual permanent conditions for the rest of your life and/or dying, IMO.

I would ask you to have another conversation with YOUR doctor and tell him what your concerns are. Ask him if the Pfizer vaccine is available to you. If you don't have any underlying physical conditions, like my 91-year-old mother has (she has a blood disorder which compromises her immune system which is further complicated by the fact that she also suffers from "off the charts" rheumatoid arthritis bc the medications for each conflict and therefore have to be balanced out). She got both shots of the Pfizer, felt like crap for a few days, and recovered. She's doing fine now.

EDIT: Zero COVID deaths in Iceland.

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It was really just because a doctor was advising someone (my gf) who had the virus not to get it. That in general gave me pause. Combined with the other talk, it was enough for me to wrestle with the idea.

If/when I do take it, I’m likely going with the Pfizer one. I am leaning towards it, but still wanna do some more due diligence… like meeting with my doctor again and getting an antibody test. According to this Virologist, Dr. Shane Crotty, immunity for previously infected people is most robust at 6-8 months. I’m at the 6 month mark now. But again, I’m leaning towards it.

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Glad to hear that you’re doing your homework and keeping an open mind by meeting with your doctor. Definitely go with the Pfizer if/when you get it.

How’s your gf doing now?

True. I did hear Dr. Rhonda Fitzpatrick talking on Rogan’s podcast about how the Pfizer vaccine has dropped in effectiveness from around 90+% to now 42% against the Delta variant, but the Moderna vaccine is around 77% because of the dose of mRNA being 3x more. As a result though, the immune response will be greater and it’ll be worse to deal with for a few days. My mom and a few family members got that one and they were all fine. I was leaning towards Pfizer, but after hearing this (dunno if it’s 100% true), I have to do more research.

My gf is back to normal though, thanks. She’s leaning towards taking the vaccine too now, and wants to do the Pfizer one because she doesn’t wanna get a crazy immune response after what she went through (if that report is true). But still a bit more research left to do.

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[HarthorneWingo]

It was really just because a doctor was advising someone (my gf) who had the virus not to get it. That in general gave me pause. Combined with the other talk, it was enough for me to wrestle with the idea.

If/when I do take it, I’m likely going with the Pfizer one. I am leaning towards it, but still wanna do some more due diligence… like meeting with my doctor again and getting an antibody test. According to this Virologist, Dr. Shane Crotty, immunity for previously infected people is most robust at 6-8 months. I’m at the 6 month mark now. But again, I’m leaning towards it.

Watch on YouTube

Glad to hear that you’re doing your homework and keeping an open mind by meeting with your doctor. Definitely go with the Pfizer if/when you get it.

How’s your gf doing now?

True. I did hear Dr. Rhonda Fitzpatrick talking on Rogan’s podcast about how the Pfizer vaccine has dropped in effectiveness from around 90+% to now 42% against the Delta variant, but the Moderna vaccine is around 77% because of the dose of mRNA being 3x more. As a result though, the immune response will be greater and it’ll be worse to deal with for a few days. My mom and a few family members got that one and they were all fine. I was leaning towards Pfizer, but after hearing this (dunno if it’s 100% true), I have to do more research.

My gf is back to normal though, thanks. She’s leaning towards taking the vaccine too now, and wants to do the Pfizer one because she doesn’t wanna get a crazy immune response after what she went through (if that report is true). But still a bit more research left to do.

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Good work! Very impressive. Get back to me on the efficacy those booster shots when you get done researching it.

I still have a few month before I'm due for one ... at least based on what we know now.

Btw, let me know if Dr. Rhonda is taking any new patients.

[HarthorneWingo]

Now we’re getting into dangerous territory. Hopefully, an appeals court rectifies this stupid decision and suspends the judge while he’s investigated.

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[HarthorneWingo]

New variant from South Africa looks like a real problem. I wonder if it’s here in the US already?

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/south-africa-detects-new-coronavirus-variant-still-studying-its-mutations-2021-08-30/

The new variant, known as C.1.2, was first detected in May and has now spread to most South African provinces and to seven other countries in Africa, Europe, Asia and Oceania, according to research which is yet to be peer-reviewed.

It contains many mutations associated in other variants with increased transmissibility and reduced sensitivity to neutralising antibodies, but they occur in a different mix and scientists are not yet sure how they affect the behaviour of the virus. Laboratory tests are underway to establish how well the variant is neutralised by antibodies.

Richard Lessells, an infectious disease specialist and one of the authors of the research on C.1.2, said its emergence tells us "this pandemic is far from over and that this virus is still exploring ways to potentially get better at infecting us".

[Capn'O]

Now we’re getting into dangerous territory. Hopefully, an appeals court rectifies this stupid decision and suspends the judge while he’s investigated.

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Does that order extend to bleach?

[BKlutch]

Now we’re getting into dangerous territory. Hopefully, an appeals court rectifies this stupid decision and suspends the judge while he’s investigated.

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Does that order extend to bleach?

In fact, it does apply to a subset of patients — only those who are certified stable geniuses.

[HarthorneWingo]

Now we’re getting into dangerous territory. Hopefully, an appeals court rectifies this stupid decision and suspends the judge while he’s investigated.

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Does that order extend to bleach?

We're just waiting for the next imbecile to get a phony doctor and shyster lawyer, paid off by the Koch Brothers, to bring the claim. The plaintiff here had to present "expert testimony" to the court from a doctor who would say that Ivermectin will properly treat this patient's COVID virus "within a reasonable degree of medical certainty".

This is fcking crazy for a judge to order this and for any real doctor to put their license on the line like this.

[stuporman]

So it's interesting how the 'muh bleefs' argument works in the minds of the religious right.

Doctors, corporations, organizations and even public programs have denied certain medical procedures and treatments because someone somewhere has a 'belief' that doesn't agree with it.

Now they want to force doctors, corporations, organizations and even public programs to do certain medical procedures and treatments because the patient wants it to be done because of their 'belief'.

Again we have another example of how the hypocritical religious right have control over the powers that be to get a double standard of rights and treatment in the US.

How I would love if in the future the ones who are being discriminated against and prevented their medical treatment sue by using this judgement as a precedent to bite the bigots in the ass who pushed for this.