BigO wrote:crowhead76 wrote:BigO wrote:
Oh, and did I mention that there is no championship without Hammond? It's a simple concept and one can hate everything else he did, but being informed means accepting reality and crediting people even when you don't want to.
Horst was Hammond's gopher and has done a decent job. Getting Holiday was an obvious move, but getting Lopez was not, and he has been fantastic. Signing Portis and Tucker were great moves. There's always misses, but he's been decent.
The two key moves that no one else was calling for at the time was Giannis and Khris. And no revisionism can debunk that. Call it luck, call it anything you want.
I do not think anyone has said that Hammond does not deserve credit and appreciation for drafting Giannis and trading for Khris, however your inability to give credit or show appreciation for what Horst and his team have done proves you to be nothing more than a stubborn self serving hypocrite. Hammond deserves credit for drafting Giannis and acquiring Khris, Horst deserves credit for taking the roster he was giving it and making the correct moves to eventually win an NBA Championship. Many have the opinion that Hammond would not have made the same moves as Horst and would have wasted the pick of Giannis and the acquisition of Kris, and based on track record I think that is completely fair. 2 moves alone do not make a championship. I am not sure why this is so complicated for you to concede? I would tell you it is time to sit down and shut up but we all are very aware about your opinions on standing.
1) Reading comprehension alludes you. I said multiple times Horst has done a good job. Good, not great.
2) I never said two moves make a championship. I said the two most important moves were made by Hammond and he gets little credit for that. Not a complicated concept.
My post: Hammond provided the groundwork, Horst engineered a championship roster.
Your post: We can debate whether Horst is responsible for bringing a championship, but it is not debatable that without Hammonds there is no championship.
I gave Hammond credit while also simply providing context as to how Horst capitalized on the roster he inherited (Giannis and Khris) you attempted to downplay the job Horst has done. I did not create the argument, that is on you.
In regards to Giannis and Khris, neither won a championship under the contract given to them under Hammond, so arguably resigning both players was equally as important and possibly a much more difficult task, especially when it came to Giannis. My point, you can not give credit to one and not the other, they both deserve their accolades, one built on the other. The one thing I think that you seem to take offense to is that many believe that in the same situation as provided to Horst (inheriting Giannis and Khris) Hammond would not have had the ability to build a championship roster or hire the coaching staff needed to provide the culture of winning that is in place now.
