2021 Knicks Offseason-Training Camp News and Videos

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Admit it y’all, you were bracing yourselves for the inevitable bad news that Elfrid Payton was re-signed to another Knicks contract

And then …..

….. it didn’t happen

You can breathe now

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Hey if he can turn into the next Dillon Brooks level player I'd be ecstatic. But I still have my doubts. It takes a lot more than just being a great college 3&D guy to make it in the NBA.

In college he was more than a 3 and D guy though. Tbh I’m not sure why he is labeled as that when the majority of his shots came off the dribble.

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He can create his own shot and playmake a bit (was a PG in high school). I see shades of Jamal Murray in his game imo.

He doesn't have the ball skills to do that in the NBA. Guys...there is a HUGE difference between HS and college and again between college and the NBA. If what a guy could do in HS was able to translate to college (didn't for Grimes) and then what he did in college would translate to the NBA then the whole who to pick would be a lot easier for NBA front offices.

This is a scouting report for Landry Fields coming out of Standford:

A wing player with terrific size and a great scoring touch … He has continued to make noticeable improvements to his game, and has become a scoring machine in his senior season … An extremely versatile player, he is able to beat you with the dribble, with the shot or with his back to the basket … He is comfortable handling the ball on the perimeter and attacking off the dribble … At his best operating out of the triple threat where he uses his long jabs and shotfakes to create separation … He is extremely good going to the basket, where he has terrific patience and a wide variety of counter moves he can use in order to get the best shot …

Sounds like what you guys are saying about Grimes right? How much of that became true for Fields in the NBA? 5%? 3%?

In fact if he could turn out to be a Landry Fields with a 3 I'd be fine. But that would get us just an intelligent 3&D guy right? Dillon Brooks caliber, I'd be ecstatic cause then he'd be a borderline all-star caliber player. But what I see of Grimes translating is his 3 point shot and his hard work on the defensive end. Ergo...3 and D. How much? I have no idea...how much a player can use the NBA level tools he has...that becomes mental. But I just don't see any of the other things he did in college translating to the NBA. But if it does, super!

Ultimately? I get it. He's a Knick. We as Knick fans want to be hyped and pumped up about anyone the Knicks draft. We did this every single year right? But at some point reality needs to supercede hope IMO. The chances that Grimes can translate his entire college game to the degree that I'm sensing some of you guys are imagining is extremely slim.

And no I'm not being negative and thinking every late 1st round pick can't amount to anything. I was EXTREMELY high on David Lee, Nate Robinson and Wilson Chandler coming out of college and thought that they had aspects of their game that would translate extremely well in the NBA and thought they were drafted way later than they should be. Grimes? Not so much.

[HerSports85]

Is it just me or Randle looks like he slimmed down.

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[3toheadmelo]

Hey if he can turn into the next Dillon Brooks level player I'd be ecstatic. But I still have my doubts. It takes a lot more than just being a great college 3&D guy to make it in the NBA.

In college he was more than a 3 and D guy though. Tbh I’m not sure why he is labeled as that when the majority of his shots came off the dribble.

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He can create his own shot and playmake a bit (was a PG in high school). I see shades of Jamal Murray in his game imo.

He doesn't have the ball skills to do that in the NBA. Guys...there is a HUGE difference between HS and college and again between college and the NBA. If what a guy could do in HS was able to translate to college (didn't for Grimes) and then what he did in college would translate to the NBA then the whole who to pick would be a lot easier for NBA front offices.

This is a scouting report for Landry Fields coming out of Standford:

A wing player with terrific size and a great scoring touch … He has continued to make noticeable improvements to his game, and has become a scoring machine in his senior season … An extremely versatile player, he is able to beat you with the dribble, with the shot or with his back to the basket … He is comfortable handling the ball on the perimeter and attacking off the dribble … At his best operating out of the triple threat where he uses his long jabs and shotfakes to create separation … He is extremely good going to the basket, where he has terrific patience and a wide variety of counter moves he can use in order to get the best shot …

Sounds like what you guys are saying about Grimes right? How much of that became true for Fields in the NBA? 5%? 3%?

In fact if he could turn out to be a Landry Fields with a 3 I'd be fine. But that would get us just an intelligent 3&D guy right? Dillon Brooks caliber, I'd be ecstatic cause then he'd be a borderline all-star caliber player. But what I see of Grimes translating is his 3 point shot and his hard work on the defensive end. Ergo...3 and D. How much? I have no idea...how much a player can use the NBA level tools he has...that becomes mental. But I just don't see any of the other things he did in college translating to the NBA. But if it does, super!

Ultimately? I get it. He's a Knick. We as Knick fans want to be hyped and pumped up about anyone the Knicks draft. We did this every single year right? But at some point reality needs to supercede hope IMO. The chances that Grimes can translate his entire college game to the degree that I'm sensing some of you guys are imagining is extremely slim.

And no I'm not being negative and thinking every late 1st round pick can't amount to anything. I was EXTREMELY high on David Lee, Nate Robinson and Wilson Chandler coming out of college and thought that they had aspects of their game that would translate extremely well in the NBA and thought they were drafted way later than they should be. Grimes? Not so much.

Well whoever typed up that scouting report on Fields must’ve watched fields with a blindfold on. Grimes is a much more skilled player than him and it isn’t even close. And they both play different positions. Grimes is a combo guard, Fields is a SG,SF. So I don’t really see the comparison besides being light skinned

I’m not saying this because Grimes is a Knick, I’m saying this because I’ve followed him since he was in HS. There’s a reason why he was projected to be a top 8 pick at one point. That talent showed in SL when he went off the last 3 games. So why can’t it translate? The only thing stopping him is consistency, not talent wise.

Imo I think you’re underselling his talent by quite a lot. A 3 and D guy is someone like Bullock who can’t dribble at all and stands in a corner. Grimes can do much more than that.

Let’s see how this plays out.

[HerSports85]

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Leon Rose: "Wait...we coulda paid him less?"

But yeah I said on the last NBNF podcast that Taj is probably my favorite Knick right now.

[TheGreenArrow]

Is it just me or Randle looks like he slimmed down.

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He’s a legit mvp favorite imo!!!!

[Zenzibar]

In college he was more than a 3 and D guy though. Tbh I’m not sure why he is labeled as that when the majority of his shots came off the dribble.

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He can create his own shot and playmake a bit (was a PG in high school). I see shades of Jamal Murray in his game imo.

He doesn't have the ball skills to do that in the NBA. Guys...there is a HUGE difference between HS and college and again between college and the NBA. If what a guy could do in HS was able to translate to college (didn't for Grimes) and then what he did in college would translate to the NBA then the whole who to pick would be a lot easier for NBA front offices.

This is a scouting report for Landry Fields coming out of Standford:

A wing player with terrific size and a great scoring touch … He has continued to make noticeable improvements to his game, and has become a scoring machine in his senior season … An extremely versatile player, he is able to beat you with the dribble, with the shot or with his back to the basket … He is comfortable handling the ball on the perimeter and attacking off the dribble … At his best operating out of the triple threat where he uses his long jabs and shotfakes to create separation … He is extremely good going to the basket, where he has terrific patience and a wide variety of counter moves he can use in order to get the best shot …

Sounds like what you guys are saying about Grimes right? How much of that became true for Fields in the NBA? 5%? 3%?

In fact if he could turn out to be a Landry Fields with a 3 I'd be fine. But that would get us just an intelligent 3&D guy right? Dillon Brooks caliber, I'd be ecstatic cause then he'd be a borderline all-star caliber player. But what I see of Grimes translating is his 3 point shot and his hard work on the defensive end. Ergo...3 and D. How much? I have no idea...how much a player can use the NBA level tools he has...that becomes mental. But I just don't see any of the other things he did in college translating to the NBA. But if it does, super!

Ultimately? I get it. He's a Knick. We as Knick fans want to be hyped and pumped up about anyone the Knicks draft. We did this every single year right? But at some point reality needs to supercede hope IMO. The chances that Grimes can translate his entire college game to the degree that I'm sensing some of you guys are imagining is extremely slim.

And no I'm not being negative and thinking every late 1st round pick can't amount to anything. I was EXTREMELY high on David Lee, Nate Robinson and Wilson Chandler coming out of college and thought that they had aspects of their game that would translate extremely well in the NBA and thought they were drafted way later than they should be. Grimes? Not so much.

Well whoever typed up that scouting report on Fields must’ve watched fields with a blindfold on. Grimes is a much more skilled player than him and it isn’t even close. And they both play different positions. Grimes is a combo guard, Fields is a SG,SF. So I don’t really see the comparison besides being light skinned

I’m not saying this because Grimes is a Knick, I’m saying this because I’ve followed him since he was in HS. There’s a reason why he was projected to be a top 8 pick at one point. That talent showed in SL when he went off the last 3 games. So why can’t it translate? The only thing stopping him is consistency, not talent wise.

Imo I think you’re underselling his talent by quite a lot. A 3 and D guy is someone like Bullock who can’t dribble at all and stands in a corner. Grimes can do much more than that.

Let’s see how this plays out.

By the time Evan Fournier's contract is up, there can be a real possibility that Grimes could be our Jamal Murray with better defense.

[KnixtapeH20]

Is it just me or Randle looks like he slimmed down.

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He’s a legit mvp favorite imo!!!!

He will def be in the running and not just a mention like last season. This guys work ethic for obvious reasons mirrors kobe but shouldn't be taken for granted bc not everyone that worked with kobe works as hard as him. Randle out for blood, oozing that orange and blue

[stuporman]

Using the HS scouting report of some random player who didn't really make it as an example to support your opinion is the same as using the HS scouting report of a player who became a star in the league to support your opinion.

It's not evidence of anything about the other player you are making the claim about... it's absolutely useless.

[3toheadmelo]

Using the HS scouting report of some random player who didn't really make it as an example to support your opinion is the same as using the HS scouting report of a player who became a star in the league to support your opinion.

It's not evidence of anything about the other player you are making the claim about... it's absolutely useless.

Who’s using HS scouting reports?

[TheGreenArrow]

He doesn't have the ball skills to do that in the NBA. Guys...there is a HUGE difference between HS and college and again between college and the NBA. If what a guy could do in HS was able to translate to college (didn't for Grimes) and then what he did in college would translate to the NBA then the whole who to pick would be a lot easier for NBA front offices.

This is a scouting report for Landry Fields coming out of Standford:



Sounds like what you guys are saying about Grimes right? How much of that became true for Fields in the NBA? 5%? 3%?

In fact if he could turn out to be a Landry Fields with a 3 I'd be fine. But that would get us just an intelligent 3&D guy right? Dillon Brooks caliber, I'd be ecstatic cause then he'd be a borderline all-star caliber player. But what I see of Grimes translating is his 3 point shot and his hard work on the defensive end. Ergo...3 and D. How much? I have no idea...how much a player can use the NBA level tools he has...that becomes mental. But I just don't see any of the other things he did in college translating to the NBA. But if it does, super!

Ultimately? I get it. He's a Knick. We as Knick fans want to be hyped and pumped up about anyone the Knicks draft. We did this every single year right? But at some point reality needs to supercede hope IMO. The chances that Grimes can translate his entire college game to the degree that I'm sensing some of you guys are imagining is extremely slim.

And no I'm not being negative and thinking every late 1st round pick can't amount to anything. I was EXTREMELY high on David Lee, Nate Robinson and Wilson Chandler coming out of college and thought that they had aspects of their game that would translate extremely well in the NBA and thought they were drafted way later than they should be. Grimes? Not so much.

Well whoever typed up that scouting report on Fields must’ve watched fields with a blindfold on. Grimes is a much more skilled player than him and it isn’t even close. And they both play different positions. Grimes is a combo guard, Fields is a SG,SF. So I don’t really see the comparison besides being light skinned

I’m not saying this because Grimes is a Knick, I’m saying this because I’ve followed him since he was in HS. There’s a reason why he was projected to be a top 8 pick at one point. That talent showed in SL when he went off the last 3 games. So why can’t it translate? The only thing stopping him is consistency, not talent wise.

Imo I think you’re underselling his talent by quite a lot. A 3 and D guy is someone like Bullock who can’t dribble at all and stands in a corner. Grimes can do much more than that.

Let’s see how this plays out.

By the time Evan Fournier's contract is up, there can be a real possibility that Grimes could be our Jamal Murray with better defense.

His potential is sky high man!!!!!

I honestly believe under the tutelage of johnnie Bryant and co he can be a mix of broy meets Alan Houston!!!!

People are really underestimating his creation abilities!!!!!

[TheGreenArrow]

Is it just me or Randle looks like he slimmed down.

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He’s a legit mvp favorite imo!!!!

He will def be in the running and not just a mention like last season. This guys work ethic for obvious reasons mirrors kobe but shouldn't be taken for granted bc not everyone that worked with kobe works as hard as him. Randle out for blood, oozing that orange and blue

Yep!!!!!

He embodies our culture!!!!!

[3toheadmelo]

He doesn't have the ball skills to do that in the NBA. Guys...there is a HUGE difference between HS and college and again between college and the NBA. If what a guy could do in HS was able to translate to college (didn't for Grimes) and then what he did in college would translate to the NBA then the whole who to pick would be a lot easier for NBA front offices.

This is a scouting report for Landry Fields coming out of Standford:



Sounds like what you guys are saying about Grimes right? How much of that became true for Fields in the NBA? 5%? 3%?

In fact if he could turn out to be a Landry Fields with a 3 I'd be fine. But that would get us just an intelligent 3&D guy right? Dillon Brooks caliber, I'd be ecstatic cause then he'd be a borderline all-star caliber player. But what I see of Grimes translating is his 3 point shot and his hard work on the defensive end. Ergo...3 and D. How much? I have no idea...how much a player can use the NBA level tools he has...that becomes mental. But I just don't see any of the other things he did in college translating to the NBA. But if it does, super!

Ultimately? I get it. He's a Knick. We as Knick fans want to be hyped and pumped up about anyone the Knicks draft. We did this every single year right? But at some point reality needs to supercede hope IMO. The chances that Grimes can translate his entire college game to the degree that I'm sensing some of you guys are imagining is extremely slim.

And no I'm not being negative and thinking every late 1st round pick can't amount to anything. I was EXTREMELY high on David Lee, Nate Robinson and Wilson Chandler coming out of college and thought that they had aspects of their game that would translate extremely well in the NBA and thought they were drafted way later than they should be. Grimes? Not so much.

Well whoever typed up that scouting report on Fields must’ve watched fields with a blindfold on. Grimes is a much more skilled player than him and it isn’t even close. And they both play different positions. Grimes is a combo guard, Fields is a SG,SF. So I don’t really see the comparison besides being light skinned

I’m not saying this because Grimes is a Knick, I’m saying this because I’ve followed him since he was in HS. There’s a reason why he was projected to be a top 8 pick at one point. That talent showed in SL when he went off the last 3 games. So why can’t it translate? The only thing stopping him is consistency, not talent wise.

Imo I think you’re underselling his talent by quite a lot. A 3 and D guy is someone like Bullock who can’t dribble at all and stands in a corner. Grimes can do much more than that.

Let’s see how this plays out.

By the time Evan Fournier's contract is up, there can be a real possibility that Grimes could be our Jamal Murray with better defense.

Yeah he definitely can if he keeps working hard. In SL we saw glimpses of what made him as a touted prospect in HS. He showed off his scoring ability and ability to playmake a bit.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Well whoever typed up that scouting report on Fields must’ve watched fields with a blindfold on. Grimes is a much more skilled player than him and it isn’t even close. And they both play different positions. Grimes is a combo guard, Fields is a SG,SF. So I don’t really see the comparison besides being light skinned

I’m not saying this because Grimes is a Knick, I’m saying this because I’ve followed him since he was in HS. There’s a reason why he was projected to be a top 8 pick at one point. That talent showed in SL when he went off the last 3 games. So why can’t it translate? The only thing stopping him is consistency, not talent wise.

Imo I think you’re underselling his talent by quite a lot. A 3 and D guy is someone like Bullock who can’t dribble at all and stands in a corner. Grimes can do much more than that.

Let’s see how this plays out.

By the time Evan Fournier's contract is up, there can be a real possibility that Grimes could be our Jamal Murray with better defense.

Yeah he definitely can if he keeps working hard. In SL we saw glimpses of what made him as a touted prospect in HS. He showed off his scoring ability and ability to playmake a bit.

looking like a steal there, like quickley was.

[F N 11]

This team looking like a family for real. It aint been like this in forever.

[stuporman]

Using the HS scouting report of some random player who didn't really make it as an example to support your opinion is the same as using the HS scouting report of a player who became a star in the league to support your opinion.

It's not evidence of anything about the other player you are making the claim about... it's absolutely useless.

Who’s using HS scouting reports?

You're missing the point, whether it's scouting from HS or college or even SL or whatever...players change alot over time even from the start of their career but they all look really good compared to their peers early on otherwise they wouldn't have gotten to the NBA.

So it's not really useful to use an example of some other player's scouting to make a point about another player, everyone is different and every circumstance is unique. Plus one never really knows who has the inner component that separates the good from the great because they all have some of it to a degree.

There are just some guys who can turn it up a notch when they are faced with the toughest challenge. Like with Randle, he's shown a next level amount of determination that wasn't revealed until he was put to the test that some may have shrunk from and we wouldn't know who is which until it plays out.

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Let’s goooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

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Let’s goooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

Pulls up and off the dribble jumpers for days.

[jvsimonetti0514]

One of the things I really wanted to see from RJ is him pulling up from three when someone goes under a screen on him and it looks like that’s what he’s been working on.