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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1481 » by Tor_Raps » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:28 pm

Toronto Trades:
Fred
Boucher
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Toronto Receives:
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Philadelphia Trades:
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2nd Rounder (Mavs)

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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1482 » by everdiso » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:31 pm

Why do we want a max guy that can't even succeed as a #4 option?
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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1483 » by AJ416 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:32 pm

The idiots Philly fans, and smug front office of the 76ers can get a slice of "i told you so" pie here. Everyone understands how short a title window can be. Philly coulda flipped us a first and Maxey for Lowry for their run this year but overvalued assets..well guess what you lose Maxey for basically nothing now. You coulda have made a realistic trade for Ben..well guess what you will be lucky to get table scraps for him now. I wouldn't want anything to do with Simmonds, he is a trash person and player and basically philly tanked his value so low and we know he will eventually walk to the Lakers or Clippers anyways. You get what you deserved Philly!LOL
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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1484 » by tdotrep2 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:53 pm

had that idiot just went for kyle, simmons wouldnt be doing this right now. and they probably have a championship lmao, absolute morons defending morey
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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1485 » by Los_29 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:58 pm

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Johnny Bball wrote:
FluLikeSymptoms wrote:Philly should’ve traded the #1 pick and avoided having to deal with this situation. At no point was the combo going to work, and at no point did Ben look to be better than Joel. Failing that, they should’ve traded him in any year since. Drafting Joel remains the only good move of the process.


Hinkie was awful and had no idea how to build a team. Only how to intentionally lose and trade away his better players.

He never got the chance, by the time it was time to build around his stars he was canned. We know Both his predecessors did **** it up (tho that team with Butler in 2019 was actually great)

They were only terrible for 3 years. Even with the flaws they quickly became one of the best teams in the east for 4 straight years built around 2 young players


Me, you and everyone on else on RealGM could've done what Hinkie did. Hinkie's strategy required absolutely no skill and is very similar to the strategy I employed when I built teams on franchise mode in Madden when I was 12 years old. There is a reason why Hinkie hasn't been able to get a job in the NBA since. In fact, he had to completely change sports he was so bad.

"The Process" was an absolute disaster and only netted them Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons despite having nearly ten lottery picks.
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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1486 » by Los_29 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:58 pm

dkb9696 wrote:
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dkb9696 wrote:I would flip Siakam for him.


Thank god you're not our GM.

Daryl Morey has been an absolute train wreck in Philly.

And Simmons may prefer to be in California but unfortunately, he has no choice on the matter.


He could fit right in at PF. Spicy P does nothing elite and has just as much of a pissy attitude as Simmons. Simmons is a DPOY candidate and is considerably younger.

VanVleet/Trent JR/Anunoby/Simmons/Achuwia would be devastating defensively. Flipping Siakam for Simmons is a no brainer move for the Raptors if it is on the table.


Stop it.
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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1487 » by Jef » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:01 am

dkb9696 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
dkb9696 wrote:I would flip Siakam for him.


Thank god you're not our GM.

Daryl Morey has been an absolute train wreck in Philly.

And Simmons may prefer to be in California but unfortunately, he has no choice on the matter.


He could fit right in at PF. Spicy P does nothing elite and has just as much of a pissy attitude as Simmons. Simmons is a DPOY candidate and is considerably younger.

VanVleet/Trent JR/Anunoby/Simmons/Achuwia would be devastating defensively. Flipping Siakam for Simmons is a no brainer move for the Raptors if it is on the table.


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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1488 » by dkb9696 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:02 am

Los_29 wrote:
dkb9696 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Thank god you're not our GM.

Daryl Morey has been an absolute train wreck in Philly.

And Simmons may prefer to be in California but unfortunately, he has no choice on the matter.


He could fit right in at PF. Spicy P does nothing elite and has just as much of a pissy attitude as Simmons. Simmons is a DPOY candidate and is considerably younger.

VanVleet/Trent JR/Anunoby/Simmons/Achuwia would be devastating defensively. Flipping Siakam for Simmons is a no brainer move for the Raptors if it is on the table.


Stop it.


Stop what? Simmons is a much better overall player. Easily.
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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1489 » by dkb9696 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:07 am

Jef wrote:
dkb9696 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Thank god you're not our GM.

Daryl Morey has been an absolute train wreck in Philly.

And Simmons may prefer to be in California but unfortunately, he has no choice on the matter.


He could fit right in at PF. Spicy P does nothing elite and has just as much of a pissy attitude as Simmons. Simmons is a DPOY candidate and is considerably younger.

VanVleet/Trent JR/Anunoby/Simmons/Achuwia would be devastating defensively. Flipping Siakam for Simmons is a no brainer move for the Raptors if it is on the table.


Mods please ban.

And ban anyone else hoping to get this over-entitled jerkstore. You know who you are. Raise your hands so the mods can ban you.


You are acing like a weirdo. You need to learn more about basketball and what makes Simmons a 3 time All-Star, 2 time All-Defensive 1st team, All-NBA Player and Rookie of the year. Your ass should been banned for being a homer and backing up Spicy P and his soft whinny ass.
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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1490 » by AJ416 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:10 am

Simmonds is a marginally better defender over-all than Pascal. Yes he defends the perimeter much better but over-all the gulf defensively isn't as wide as you think. Offensively Siakam twice the player Simmonds is. I wouldn't even consider a PS for Ben swap. Is Simmons is a much better player then I look forward to seeing the top 10 player Philly lands for him when they trade him
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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1491 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:10 am

Seems like it might be Simmons + Maxey, that sucks for the Sixers.

As Dumas explains, both Simmons and Maxey are represented by Rich Paul of Klutch Sports Group. Dumas suggests that Paul would prefer to have both of his clients out of Philadelphia.


In a separate tweet, Dumas says that some Philadelphia-based organizations were interested in partnering with Maxey on community events, but were told to cancel those plans, since Paul doesn’t want the 2020 first-round pick to establish substantial roots in a city he may soon leave.


https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/08/tyrese-maxey-likely-to-be-included-in-any-simmons-trade.html
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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1492 » by anotherhomer » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:13 am

Man....this is getting too heated

Pascal for Ben Simmons can't be outright dismissed

It's risky for both sides as pascal operates in the same area as embiid on offense

But in theory, they can suboptimally play off ball
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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1493 » by dkb9696 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:16 am

AJ416 wrote:Simmonds is a marginally better defender over-all than Pascal. Yes he defends the perimeter much better but over-all the gulf defensively isn't as wide as you think. Offensively Siakam twice the player Simmonds is. I wouldn't even consider a PS for Ben swap. Is Simmons is a much better player then I look forward to seeing the top 10 player Philly lands for him when they trade him


They are not even in the same league defensively. Simmons is a legit DPOY candidate. Siakam flares his arms all around, runs around like a chicken with his head cut off and gets bodied by bigger stronger players. I really wonder sometimes if posters on here have any idea about NBA basketball or maybe they just watch Raptors games or something. Simmons had better win shares, per, effective field goal percentage, steals, blocks, assists. The man somehow even shot a better percentage from 3. Siakam could not c=even crack 30 percent from 3.
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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1494 » by anotherhomer » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:18 am

dkb9696 wrote:
AJ416 wrote:Simmonds is a marginally better defender over-all than Pascal. Yes he defends the perimeter much better but over-all the gulf defensively isn't as wide as you think. Offensively Siakam twice the player Simmonds is. I wouldn't even consider a PS for Ben swap. Is Simmons is a much better player then I look forward to seeing the top 10 player Philly lands for him when they trade him


They are not even in the same league defensively. Simmons is a legit DPOY candidate. Siakam flares his arms all around, runs around like a chicken with his head cut off and gets bodied by bigger stronger players. I really wonder sometimes if posters on here have any idea about NBA basketball or maybe they just watch Raptors games or something.


Dude, I think Ben Simmons is good but you don't need to be dismissive of pascal. It leads to a polarizing discussion unless that's what you want
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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1495 » by dkb9696 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:23 am

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dkb9696 wrote:
AJ416 wrote:Simmonds is a marginally better defender over-all than Pascal. Yes he defends the perimeter much better but over-all the gulf defensively isn't as wide as you think. Offensively Siakam twice the player Simmonds is. I wouldn't even consider a PS for Ben swap. Is Simmons is a much better player then I look forward to seeing the top 10 player Philly lands for him when they trade him


They are not even in the same league defensively. Simmons is a legit DPOY candidate. Siakam flares his arms all around, runs around like a chicken with his head cut off and gets bodied by bigger stronger players. I really wonder sometimes if posters on here have any idea about NBA basketball or maybe they just watch Raptors games or something.


Dude, I think Ben Simmons is good but you don't need to be dismissive of pascal. It leads to a polarizing discussion unless that's what you want


Simmons had better win shares, per, effective field goal percentage, steals, blocks, assists. The man somehow even shot a better percentage from 3. Siakam could not even crack 30 percent from 3. I think it is silly to not support a trade of Siakam for Simmons straight up. You would need to be a homer not to do so.
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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1496 » by CANsportsguru » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:32 am

John Murdoch wrote:
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Raptors..but Morey prob thinks thats not enough value . He thinks Lillard or Beal will demand out sometime soon but he will be left with a disgruntled player in the end



I don't want Simmons but come on FVV and scraps isn't getting the deal done. Dragic doesn't seem atm to have much value given his contact. It would start with FFV, OG at the very least.


What leverage does morey have? Simmons is the one disgruntled willing not to come into camp. Mccollum..Haliburton and Hield...Malik Beasly and fillers..Brogdon + 1st ...its not like he has tons of options


Morey would have the same leverage as we would with Simmons. If he doesn't want to play here he doesn't have to play here. Few weeks ago didn't him or his agent come out and say Toronto was a bad situation that they didn't want to come too? He's made it known that he wants to go to Cali.

At the same time Simmons is a much better player than FFV and the 76ers would be dumb to pull the trigger on a trade centered around just FVV as they would actually take a step back in terms of title contention and no GTJ doesn't move the needle either. So obviously we're not trading Barnes or Pascal for Simmons so realistically what other offer do we have .... OG. Again it a dumb trade on both sides and there's no way it gets done. We probably could have put a package together before with Lowry but that time has come and gone.
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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1497 » by Los_29 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:42 am

dkb9696 wrote:
anotherhomer wrote:
dkb9696 wrote:
They are not even in the same league defensively. Simmons is a legit DPOY candidate. Siakam flares his arms all around, runs around like a chicken with his head cut off and gets bodied by bigger stronger players. I really wonder sometimes if posters on here have any idea about NBA basketball or maybe they just watch Raptors games or something.


Dude, I think Ben Simmons is good but you don't need to be dismissive of pascal. It leads to a polarizing discussion unless that's what you want


Simmons had better win shares, per, effective field goal percentage, steals, blocks, assists. The man somehow even shot a better percentage from 3. Siakam could not even crack 30 percent from 3. I think it is silly to not support a trade of Siakam for Simmons straight up. You would need to be a homer not to do so.


Can you remind me how Ben Simmons did in the playoffs this year?
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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1499 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:51 am

Mixed reports on Simmons only wanting to play on Cali teams. I honestly believe that isnt true and he's happy just to get out of that dumpster team who treated him like garbage.

Masai had the same issue with Demar with his playoff blunders and Masai never called him out neither did Casey. No support from Philly whatsoever. They played it all wrong hoping to get Lillard or Beal and theyre not. Now they getting screwed.

If Philly wants to take any of FVV, Dragic, Flynn, Boucher - I'm all for it. Other than that, we arent biting.
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Re: Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons 

Post#1500 » by LJKO » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:56 am

At this rate if I was Philly i'd trade Simmons asap. Stop expecting/asking for way too much from other teams and accept the best you can get

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