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Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#281 » by the_process » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:09 am

I want to go back to that rumor that was posted up last week by Negrodamus that he dug out of Twitter.

The one that said the Kings have a standing offer of Haliburton, Barnes, and a 1st.

If that is true, let’s just do that. Send another 1st and unprotect the 25 and dump Tobias on OKC.

Tell Rich Paul Maxey is going nowhere.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#282 » by TYO23 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:11 am

I’m down so bad that I’m seriously contemplating DLo/Beasley/McDaniels man..
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#283 » by Sixersftw » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:16 am

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#284 » by DCasey91 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:16 am

the_process wrote:I want to go back to that rumor that was posted up last week by Negrodamus that he dug out of Twitter.

The one that said the Kings have a standing offer of Haliburton, Barnes, and a 1st.

If that is true, let’s just do that. Send another 1st and unprotect the 25 and dump Tobias on OKC.

Tell Rich Paul Maxey is going nowhere.


Our owner is cheap but he is a massive whale and on a table that Paul and all of us will never see.

Imagine a big teenager taking away his little treat by a toddler.

I dunno maybe vengeance or spite is what I’m going for here. But this is sh*thouse atm

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#285 » by stormi » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:17 am

Hypothetically, these are on the table. Pick one.

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#286 » by DCasey91 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:19 am

KramerDSP wrote:Beyond Chet and Banchero, how deep is the ‘22 draft ?


There’s five that I like, it’s always a wait and see a year is a long long way away. Chet, Banch, Roko, Jovic, Hardy all easy top ten imo.

Chet and Banch though are better talents than this year’s draft to me (Green/Mobley are arguable).

So you’re gonna need the 1st/2nd pick which is a crapshoot to get on the chances with Ben being dealt as we speak.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#287 » by Negrodamus » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:19 am

Stanford wrote:Lillard added to Simmons Embiid Harris and Maxey is contender truth eye emojiiiiiis


I NEED to go to the Blazers board and get their take on this:

Danny Green
Andre Drummond
Seth Curry
Georges Niang
Furkan Korkmaz
Shake Milton
Matisse Thybulle
Paul Reed
Isaiah Joe
Jaden Springer
and pick swaps/picks indefinitely

for

Damian Lillard

Lillard posts emo tweets, so the Trailblazers aren't in a position to negotiate! I don't care about what they have to say, I just want to post it on their board so they have to experience it!
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#288 » by Mik317 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:21 am

Murray_17 wrote:
TYO23 wrote:The issue with that is Ant is a Klutch guy as well.



I know that, which is why i don't think Minny can get Ben.

Let me say too, that team would be ass. D'Lo and Ben would fight for the ball, KAT would take like 9 3's per game because Ben makes him a stretch 5. Edwards is not good enough yet to carry the team and for all the wing defense Ben gives them D'Lo and KAT are just zeros on that side


nah.

They'd be pretty good. The West is weaker this year too. Ben would thrive next to Towns and Edwards and Dlo even if just irrationally would be able to close games out.

If you are going to build around Ben..thats how you'd do it. Towns likes being a stretch big. DLo can play off ball (probably doesn't want to lol but he can). Ben would have to cover for a lot defensively tho...but that team would push it at every chance they got. The Wolves just want to make the playoffs at this point probably to save the franchise as I am sure ARod, despite what he says, is looking to move it somewhere sexier ...so either to stay or make moving even more appealing...being a playoff team even if fraudulent and treadmilly would be wise.

Honestly the only "bad" fit for Ben is the Cavs...most of the other rumored teams have ways to hide his issues. GS is the best fit as he can feast off of Curry, who loves playing off ball. The Kings seems weird considering Hield would have to be in the trade for contract reasons assuming its Haliburton as the main target...but Him and Fox would fly up the court and be nasty defensively (shooting would be ass tho)

He's not going to go to a spot that harms his brand tho. Gonna lock up all star spots and all defense nods and since for now sans the Warriors, most spots will just be happy making it...there will be no push back (not to mention he tends to only flame out in second rounds it seems lol).

Honestly I think beyond the Maxey ****, the fact that I just know Ben is going to be fine in his next spot is what irrationally and damn sure petty-ly why I am so pissed. I wish we could ship his ass to OKC...not even for good value just to see if he truly changes...but can't do that because his agent has pictures of SIlver **** goats or some **** and that would hurt us longterm...so gotta play the game.

I don't like wishing for ill will for anyone...feel like its bad karma. So I just hope Ben finds what he is looking for and we can all move on with our lives. Not going to spend my days being petty and mad because I just know that will end in more pain. I hate this franchise with all my might yo. I hate this fanbase. I hate myself lol. Sixers Basketball yall.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#289 » by Negrodamus » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:21 am

stormi wrote:
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Hypothetically, these are on the table. Pick one.

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Spurs trade is the only one that makes sense. We still need guys who can create on ball and none of the other guys can play anything close to resembling a PG.

Honestly, that's a fleece for Ben since Dejounte is a rich mans Ben.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#290 » by MavCarter » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:22 am

stormi wrote:Hypothetically, these are on the table. Pick one.

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Masai already promised pascal that he isnt getting traded. After the backlash he got from demar last time i cant see him doing it again. Raptors are probably not a legit trade partner
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#291 » by Mik317 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:25 am

Just Wiggins me up fam.

Its inevitable like Thanos at this point.

(Don't see how Siakam keeps getting rumored here....I understand the Camaroon angle but he and Tobias is a terrible pair, no?...feel like another move would have to be apart of that....also don't see why the Raptors do that...they have Barnes, OG and then Simmons....all various versions of the same dude, no?)
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#292 » by Mik317 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:25 am

Negrodamus wrote:
stormi wrote:
Spoiler:
Hypothetically, these are on the table. Pick one.

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Spurs trade is the only one that makes sense. We still need guys who can create on ball and none of the other guys can play anything close to resembling a PG.

Honestly, that's a fleece for Ben since Dejounte is a rich mans Ben.

He is also another Klutch client lol.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#293 » by Sportfan73 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:27 am

Feels like it’s going to end up being like Simmons and Maxey for Fox and Hield or something like that
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#294 » by DCasey91 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:29 am

Mik317 wrote:Ben is a whole ass ho.

You fail in big moments and get mad that people call you out for it after years of hand waving away everything.

**** off.

Morey is a whole ass ho

You ask for the world and now is sitting here with your dick out and those other deals will evaporate.

We are **** lol.

Need to pull a Spurs and sit Jo out all year so we can suck ass, get a high pick and fire Doc.

I swear to god if Ben goes elsewhere and starts shooting, Imma fly to antarica and punch a penguin.


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Also you can feed them first beforehand if you’re feeling really evil lmao.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#295 » by stormi » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:37 am

Sportfan73 wrote:Feels like it’s going to end up being like Simmons and Maxey for Fox and Hield or something like that


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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#296 » by Black Mage » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:38 am

IceManBK1 wrote:straight offer from Min: Malik Beasley(efficient SG), Jaden McDaniels(great potential to become an allstar), Jake Layman(energetic bench 3 or 4)Jared Vanderbilt(good defensive 4 capable of starting)Josh Okogie(Good defensive guard) 3 first rders..one top 3 protected..two lotto protected..and 1 second rder. Yes or No?


Straight Offer From Philly:

Edwards, McDaniels, Beasley and every pick Minne can send us without any protections. Either that or Minne can pull a "Flick" and go lick a freezing cold flag pole.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#297 » by Tomjas » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:39 am

DCasey91 wrote:
Mik317 wrote:Ben is a whole ass ho.

You fail in big moments and get mad that people call you out for it after years of hand waving away everything.

**** off.

Morey is a whole ass ho

You ask for the world and now is sitting here with your dick out and those other deals will evaporate.

We are **** lol.

Need to pull a Spurs and sit Jo out all year so we can suck ass, get a high pick and fire Doc.

I swear to god if Ben goes elsewhere and starts shooting, Imma fly to antarica and punch a penguin.


Oi visit to where I live Australia. You wouldn’t believe it but we have penguins here (random migration event funny story too .)

Also you can feed them first beforehand if you’re feeling really evil lmao.


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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#298 » by DCasey91 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:43 am

I’m guessing it’s like the Zingis ordeal. Honestly Ben will be moved in the next couple of days. I take the position of other peoples motives not my own when it comes to this.

Emotions aside it’s very logical that teams will be jumping on this very quickly.

Kings and Wolves - Playoff incentive pressure, friends, nepotism. I’ll say this again nepotism is always a huge factor at play.
Blazers - Tank/rebuild get young talented assets and more to come
Pels/Spurs - Sneaky back door

Ben isn’t the smartest tool in the shed and Maxey is 20 so the real world hasn’t happened to him yet. Paul is a snake in the grass, Edwards is a client to so obv there’ll be collateral. Contracts work etc.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#299 » by IceManBK1 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:54 am

Black Mage wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:straight offer from Min: Malik Beasley(efficient SG), Jaden McDaniels(great potential to become an allstar), Jake Layman(energetic bench 3 or 4)Jared Vanderbilt(good defensive 4 capable of starting)Josh Okogie(Good defensive guard) 3 first rders..one top 3 protected..two lotto protected..and 1 second rder. Yes or No?


Straight Offer From Philly:

Edwards, McDaniels, Beasley and every pick Minne can send us without any protections. Either that or Minne can pull a "Flick" and go lick a freezing cold flag pole.


it's gonna be Prince, Beasley, McDaniels..3 firsts and a 2nd book it. one of the first will be top 3 protected.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#300 » by mrdressup » Wed Sep 1, 2021 1:55 am

All Raptors are likely offering is a package around Chris Boucher, Gary Trent JR and picks. Simmons as a potential 5 is the only use they have for him. At this point who would want Simmons as anything but a skilled 5? You might have to include a nice piece to trade him. His prima donna attitude has floored his value and no one is jumping in to save Morey here. Things have really deteriorated fast. It's not like Ben is a leader.

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