CJ TRADE IDEAS

[Case2012]

I would happily take Love on a vet minimum. He’s not “cooked” at 32 or whatever, Jesus. The man can play, Cleveland just sucked his soul away and he’s been extremely vocal about his desire to back to play for hometown. I’m sure he would get back to being a 20 and 10 guy in PDX if he can maintain his health. Doesn’t matter though, he’s not giving up 60 million.

[Dame Lizard]

How about a 3-way: POR/CLE/PHI

Portland trades: CJ to PHI
Cleveland trades: Love and Mobley to POR
Philly trades: Harris to CLE

Blazers get a more balanced roster, an NBA champion that I think can still ball hard for 20mpg / for 2 more years, and get one less year of CJ's money. Portland also gets a rookie that should be able to play right away with spot minutes to begin with, and a gradual increase. Better than Zeller day 1, and will eventually have all of his minutes.

Cleveland moves on from Love and his $60 mil, at the cost of a big "Blue chip" while getting Harris, a highly skilled PF they can easily pair with Lauri and Allen, to make for a decent 3-man PF/C rotation.

Philly gets much needed perimeter shooting, while clearing out the painted area for Simmons to operate more efficiently with Joel. The three bigs were one too many IMO, and CJ could be an All-Star for them next year, especially if the Sixers look like contenders.

BLAZERS ROSTER:
Dame / Simons
Powell
ROCO / Little
Nance Jr. / Love
Nurkic / Mobley

Cleveland have no real incentives to trade Love. Their salary cap must be spent somewhere, and Love is only contracted for two seasons.

Mobley is their #3 pick from the current draft, who is their most valuable building block. They won't be trading him to get rid of Love's contract.

Mobley is the kind of piece we'd be expecting (plus further assets), from a Dame trade. We won't be getting him from a CJ trade though unfortunately.

[BlazersBroncos]

Not only does CLE not get rid of Love's contract in this proposal, they take on a longer, more expensive deal for a win-now piece that isnt elevating their team in any meaningful way. There isnt a chance in hell they would be interested in turning Love and the 3rd pick in the draft into Tobias Harris.

[HoopsFanAZ]

Unfortunately -- and though I was hopeful -- Morey -- you are our only hope. If he decides to trade Simmons in a 3 teamer with Portland and Golden State. Or there will be a miracle and Beal will want out to join Tatum in Boston and a 3-teamer with the Wizards getting CJ (and Simons and Little) will deliver Jaylen Brown and Payton Pritchard to the Blazers.

CJ TRADE IDEAS as a thread is noble and wise and all good things seem to begin with the words "CJ" and "Trade." Maybe the trade deadline will deliver this dream.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

Unfortunately -- and though I was hopeful -- Morey -- you are our only hope. If he decides to trade Simmons in a 3 teamer with Portland and Golden State. Or there will be a miracle and Beal will want out to join Tatum in Boston and a 3-teamer with the Wizards getting CJ (and Simons and Little) will deliver Jaylen Brown and Payton Pritchard to the Blazers.

CJ TRADE IDEAS as a thread is noble and wise and all good things seem to begin with the words "CJ" and "Trade." Maybe the trade deadline will deliver this dream.

Washington would 100% just take Brown for themselves.


CJs age, fit and salary make him worth very little on the trade market. We are basically stuck with him because he's much more valuable on the court than what he can bring back in a trade.

[Myth]

I’m sure he would get back to being a 20 and 10 guy in PDX if he can maintain his health.

Lol, yes, Portland is the place to come to get healthy.

[PDXKnight]

I’m feeling like cj + first for simmons could happen if we want it. Feels like phillys options are running out and unless morey wants to hold onto him for awhile i think we may find ourselves in a good position

[Norm2953]

That would be a HR deal for Portland. Likely there would need to be a meeting with Simmons and Dame
to sell Simmons on going to Portland.

[The Sebastian Express]

I'd do CJ + two firsts, honestly. We need to make this happen. Simmons' defense is amazing, great playmaking, pushes the pace, and he wouldn't be in a large market anymore.

Dame/Simons
Powell/BenM
Covington/Little
Simmons/Nance
Nurkic/Zeller

That's not a bad team at all.

[b33nine]

I think the primary reason you won't see a Simmons to Portland deal is because Dame and CJ are on the same team, and the narrative has been pushed all summer long that Philadelphia is making every attempt to trade Simmons for Dame. Were CJ on a different team doing similar things to what he does here, he'd most definitely be considered more heavily in a trade for Simmons.

If Morey "settles" for CJ, there's gonna be some insanely upset Philly fans.

That said, I'm on board for it *BUT* I'd probably give Philly a better chance at a title with their resulting roster than I would our resulting roster.

[BlazersBroncos]

I'd do CJ + two firsts, honestly. We need to make this happen. Simmons' defense is amazing, great playmaking, pushes the pace, and he wouldn't be in a large market anymore.

Dame/Simons
Powell/BenM
Covington/Little
Simmons/Nance
Nurkic/Zeller

That's not a bad team at all.

I think RoCo can guard SF, but I think Ben is better. I would switch that role. I posted in another thread, make that move and get Love on a buyout and suddenly we might be a team in a position to go very deep in the POs if luck provides (Any team w/o stacked superstar rosters needs to rely on luck).

Also think Snell gets minutes over Ben and Little, he can guard well and most importantly is a elite 3PT guy. I honestly think this would be the best roster since the healthy Roy/LMA/Oden days (All like 25 games of that lol)

G - Damian Lillard (34) / Anfernee Simons (14)
G - Norman Powell (30) / Anfernee Simons (10) / Tony Snell (8) / Ben Mclemore
F - Ben Simmons (30) / Robert Covington (10) / Tony Snell (8) / Nassir Little
F - Robert Covington (20) / Larry Nance Jr (28) / Greg Brown
C - Jusuf Nurkic (28) / Kevin Love (20) / Cody Zeller

That can make noise. Legitimate noise IMO. But it wont happen.

[Norm2953]

It'd be interesting to know if Portland has a standing offer of CJ + picks for Simmons. Offer could be
tweaked a bit for it appears Tyreese Maxey is likely going to be going out of town with Simmons due
to agent issues which would make the trade CJ + Simons for Simmons + Maxey

[BlazersBroncos]

It'd be interesting to know if Portland has a standing offer of CJ + picks for Simmons. Offer could be
tweaked a bit for it appears Tyreese Maxey is likely going to be going out of town with Simmons due
to agent issues which would make the trade CJ + Simons for Simmons + Maxey

I think for PHI the best move, assuming they settle for CJ and Maxey still wants out, would be to reroute Maxey and 1 of the PDX FRPs to another team for a cheap rotation guy.

[PDXKnight]

I think the primary reason you won't see a Simmons to Portland deal is because Dame and CJ are on the same team, and the narrative has been pushed all summer long that Philadelphia is making every attempt to trade Simmons for Dame. Were CJ on a different team doing similar things to what he does here, he'd most definitely be considered more heavily in a trade for Simmons.

If Morey "settles" for CJ, there's gonna be some insanely upset Philly fans.

That said, I'm on board for it *BUT* I'd probably give Philly a better chance at a title with their resulting roster than I would our resulting roster.

Philly isn’t getting dame for simmons without adding a significant boatload to ben simmons. I think Portland is not dealing dame unless he wants out & in lieu of recent events with the kings wizards and warriors both stating they aren’t giving up their premiere pieces for simmons along with portland being adement about no dame being involved i think we might have the best piece philly can acquire short of a situation like beal’s changing. But then i can’t see beal turning down a 5 year supermax if he demands a trade it’ll be in a couple years once he’s secured that contract imo.

Philly can’t afford to wait, they need to compete and i think cj is their best realistic route at this moment. They can’t get a top 5-10 player with simmons so short of holding onto him/ convincing him to play i simply cannot see Philly finding a better option. Moreys pie in the sky “40 acres and a mule” dreams are crumbling by the day, either he accepts less or he keeps simmons but ultimately i think the cj + 1-2 firsts deal has to be one they consider in philly

[PDXKnight]

I'd do CJ + two firsts, honestly. We need to make this happen. Simmons' defense is amazing, great playmaking, pushes the pace, and he wouldn't be in a large market anymore.

Dame/Simons
Powell/BenM
Covington/Little
Simmons/Nance
Nurkic/Zeller

That's not a bad team at all.

This is a team i think has a legit shot at being a dark horse contender. Lots of glue guys and powell fits better beside dame

I wonder how much powell, not dame, hurt cj’s value. Teams know cj is now more of a luxury for Portland which could easily make trade talks more challenging

[DusterBuster]

I'd do CJ + two firsts, honestly. We need to make this happen. Simmons' defense is amazing, great playmaking, pushes the pace, and he wouldn't be in a large market anymore.

Dame/Simons
Powell/BenM
Covington/Little
Simmons/Nance
Nurkic/Zeller

That's not a bad team at all.

Exactly why I hated the Lance deal... Losing that FRP in the deal is already (potentially) hurting the team.

[The Sebastian Express]

I'd do CJ + two firsts, honestly. We need to make this happen. Simmons' defense is amazing, great playmaking, pushes the pace, and he wouldn't be in a large market anymore.

Dame/Simons
Powell/BenM
Covington/Little
Simmons/Nance
Nurkic/Zeller

That's not a bad team at all.

Exactly why I hated the Lance deal... Losing that FRP in the deal is already (potentially) hurting the team.

I'll disagree. Unless we have significant injuries to Dame next year, it's going to Cleveland next year. Philly would most likely want future picks that have a better shot at being lottery to go along with their win-now piece they're acquiring.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

I'd do CJ + two firsts, honestly. We need to make this happen. Simmons' defense is amazing, great playmaking, pushes the pace, and he wouldn't be in a large market anymore.

Dame/Simons
Powell/BenM
Covington/Little
Simmons/Nance
Nurkic/Zeller

That's not a bad team at all.

Exactly why I hated the Lance deal... Losing that FRP in the deal is already (potentially) hurting the team.

Once we made that deal I figured we had no shot at (or no interest in) Ben Simmons. I can see Morey being one of those people, like many fans you run into on here, that just irrationally hates CJ's game and thinks he's a purely negative asset on his contract.

As far as the picks go, we could give up unprotected picks worded something like 2 years after previous pick is conveyed, and to be honest Portlands 2024+ and 2026+ picks are gonna be worth more than our 2022, for even if we land Simmons by then Dame will be seriously falling off and Simmons will have had a chance to test free agency and I see no scenario in which Ben is not lured away by LA or something.

[PDXKnight]

I'd do CJ + two firsts, honestly. We need to make this happen. Simmons' defense is amazing, great playmaking, pushes the pace, and he wouldn't be in a large market anymore.

Dame/Simons
Powell/BenM
Covington/Little
Simmons/Nance
Nurkic/Zeller

That's not a bad team at all.

Exactly why I hated the Lance deal... Losing that FRP in the deal is already (potentially) hurting the team.

I'll disagree. Unless we have significant injuries to Dame next year, it's going to Cleveland next year. Philly would most likely want future picks that have a better shot at being lottery to go along with their win-now piece they're acquiring.

could always do a 2022 first that flips to a future first if cleveland claims it as well. That might be lucrative to philly

[DusterBuster]

I'd do CJ + two firsts, honestly. We need to make this happen. Simmons' defense is amazing, great playmaking, pushes the pace, and he wouldn't be in a large market anymore.

Dame/Simons
Powell/BenM
Covington/Little
Simmons/Nance
Nurkic/Zeller

That's not a bad team at all.

Exactly why I hated the Lance deal... Losing that FRP in the deal is already (potentially) hurting the team.

Once we made that deal I figured we had no shot at (or no interest in) Ben Simmons. I can see Morey being one of those people, like many fans you run into on here, that just irrationally hates CJ's game and thinks he's a purely negative asset on his contract.

As far as the picks go, we could give up unprotected picks worded something like 2 years after previous pick is conveyed, and to be honest Portlands 2024+ and 2026+ picks are gonna be worth more than our 2022, for even if we land Simmons by then Dame will be seriously falling off and Simmons will have had a chance to test free agency and I see no scenario in which Ben is not lured away by LA or something.

Agreed, I guess my point wasn’t so much about Simmons in particular, but the ability to jump into any major trade discussion at all.

Yes, I’m sure there are some hoops they could go through, maybe trading the 2022 pick top 1-14 it goes to Philly so that it doesn’t conflict with the Cavs protection… I think Morey was actually the one to do that before. Still would have been better just to not have to give up that asset for a backup.