2021 Free Agency & Off-season

Wizop · Post #381 » by **Wizop** » Wed Sep 1, 2021 3:25 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:Pushed back to October 19. Not sure if he got any partial guarantee out of it, as yet.

it really doesn't matter but it is not clear whether the date was pushed back twice or if the date first reported was wrong.

Post #382 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Sep 1, 2021 3:27 pm

Wizop wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:Pushed back to October 19. Not sure if he got any partial guarantee out of it, as yet.

it really doesn't matter but it is not clear whether the date was pushed back twice or if the date first reported was wrong.

You’re absolutely right.

Pacers Forever · Post #383 » by **Pacers Forever** » Fri Sep 3, 2021 9:05 pm

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Wizop · Post #384 » by **Wizop** » Fri Sep 3, 2021 9:11 pm

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Would Alize be more useful than Martin? Would his contract be cheaper?

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Pacers Forever · Post #385 » by **Pacers Forever** » Fri Sep 3, 2021 9:32 pm

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Would Alize be more useful than Martin? Would his contract be cheaper?

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I’m not sure what he would cost, but being a power forward he would conflict with Brissett for minutes behind our starter. I’m not sure of his defense but he can rebound and score from close in. I think he’s a better player than Martin, but not sure if Pacers want more forward depth ? I think they could afford to lose Martin’s SG depth if the price is right for Alize. Guessing they can’t fit his salary though. :dontknow:

Post #386 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Fri Sep 3, 2021 10:57 pm

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Would Alize be more useful than Martin? Would his contract be cheaper?

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Alize’s contract is $61k more than what Kelan is non-guaranteed for. Claiming Alize would also guarantee his contract for the year, as he was waived on his guarantee date.

Otherwise, I think we replaced (and improved upon) Alize with Oshae.

Wizop · Post #387 » by **Wizop** » Fri Sep 3, 2021 11:06 pm

Alize is more of a forward than Martin but I don't think he's likely to be claimed by anyone. He could be an option after a Lamb trade.

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Tom White · Post #388 » by **Tom White** » Fri Sep 3, 2021 11:10 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:Otherwise, I think we replaced (and improved upon) Alize with Oshae.

Yeah. I think re-signing him would be a bit of a "been there, done that" sort of move.

I have nothing against Alize, but I remember him as being a decent rebounder who was limited in most other ways.
We already know who he is, and should probably not expect him to improve much from here on. Meanwhile, with Martin, I expect we can count on some amount of continued growth and improvement. He is, at this point, an unfinished prospect.

Pacers Forever · Post #389 » by **Pacers Forever** » Sat Sep 4, 2021 12:26 am

I guess I just haven’t seen enough of Martin playing to think he’s going to develop.

Pacers Forever · Post #390 » by **Pacers Forever** » Sat Sep 4, 2021 4:36 pm

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Post #391 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Mon Sep 6, 2021 9:46 pm

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Good for him. Hope he gets some guarantee out of it. Might have a chance to get some play there, too.

Post #392 » by **boomershadow** » Tue Sep 7, 2021 5:01 pm

Everything I read said the Nets didn't really wanna let him go. They just had to in order to make the tax saving move.

Post #393 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Tue Sep 7, 2021 5:45 pm

boomershadow wrote:Everything I read said the Nets didn't really wanna let him go. They just had to in order to make the tax saving move.

They chose LaMarcus Aldridge and monumental tax savings over Alize. There’s no shame for Alize in that.

Wizop · Post #394 » by **Wizop** » Tue Sep 7, 2021 6:03 pm

Yogi got waived. I'm an IU fan but I'm also a Butler fan and think Kelan offers more. I'd like to think between our two two-way point guards, we've got one who is taller and will be more useful that Yogi

Tom White · Post #395 » by **Tom White** » Tue Sep 7, 2021 6:13 pm

Wizop wrote:Yogi got waived. I'm an IU fan but I'm also a Butler fan and think Kelan offers more. I'd like to think between our two two-way point guards, we've got one who is taller and will be more useful that Yogi

I've always liked Yogi, and am an IU fan as well. But, I still don't like short guards in general. They are too limited on both ends of the floor by their physical stature. At IU he could kind of play around it, but not in the NBA.

Wizop · Post #396 » by **Wizop** » Tue Sep 7, 2021 6:26 pm

Tom White wrote:But, I still don't like short guards in general.

and one is enough. TJ is the only short guard I want on the roster.

Pacers Forever · Post #397 » by **Pacers Forever** » Tue Sep 7, 2021 10:02 pm

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Post #398 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Tue Sep 7, 2021 10:08 pm

I remember they liked Hinton out of his draft last year. Probably a good target to try and steer to Ft. Wayne, too. And, obviously, he was a 2 way last year with Dallas, so have to assume Rick recommended him, too.

Pacers Forever · Post #399 » by **Pacers Forever** » Thu Sep 9, 2021 11:07 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:I remember they liked Hinton out of his draft last year. Probably a good target to try and steer to Ft. Wayne, too. And, obviously, he was a 2 way last year with Dallas, so have to assume Rick recommended him, too.

Exactly. I’m thinking now that Rick is here there’s a big push on getting the best talent in Fort Wayne which is the smartest way to go. Never know when a G league prospect will bust out and be ready to try to help the Pacers like Brissett did last year. Which I was pushing earlier this year to strengthen the Mad Ants and use them as a farm system of sorts.

Post #400 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:01 am

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