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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#201 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Sep 3, 2021 9:31 pm

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BKlutch wrote:I had Pfizer and minimal reactions. The day my 21 year old son got his second vaccine, he worried he didn't get the real thing because he didn't even feel it. His fever and malaise the next day convinced him, but it was mild and lasted 24 hours. My younger son had minimal or no reactions to the Pfizer. My wife had Moderna and had arm pain and malaise starting about 8 hours after the shot, lasting about 24 hours, each time.

My worst reaction was to another vaccine I had 2 years ago - 101.5 fever and chills for a day.

On the whole, I'd prefer any of the above to gasping for breath and living my last hours on a respirator.


yes lawd.

and i'd say i'm feeling a little fatigue and soreness about the lymph node. but nothing alarming. normal day otherwise.

I know there are some people who like to complain about the amount of side effects you're experiencing, but I lost a long time friend and another was sick for many months of lasting problems from Covid. So I just decided not to be a baby when I got mine, and I always appreciate others who keep their perspective on this, too.

Is it possible that some of those who scream the loudest about not wanting the vaccine are just afraid afraid of needles and just being big babies? Misery loves company, so they try to get others to refuse, too, and put many others at risk.

Most people don't know it, but in the past, if a person were bitten by a dog — and that dog was potentially rabid — they had to receive a series of injections that were so painful that they had to be injected in the the big muscle in your belly (the rectus abdomens) — because injecting into smaller muscles could destroy those muscles. People were in agony from the rabies vaccine, but it was a choice of either accepting that torture or certain death in a horribly way within days. There is nothing about the Covid vaccines that is anywhere nearly as bad as that.

Congrats on doing the right thing.


I’m sorry for your loss. I too have lost loved ones during this pandemic. I also work in healthcare, so this has been a very exhausting and saddening experience.

I think people not getting vaccinated are standing firmly in beliefs. I don’t understand all of them. Some of them are not rooted in reality. In the case of my background, black people are distrustful. We have reason to be. But not everything is a trap or conspiracy. I’m alarmed at the extent to which masses have been confused. It’s a public health problem for our entire country.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#202 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Sep 3, 2021 10:58 pm

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Are We Ther Yet wrote:Got my second shot Wednesday. My daughter brought home the Delta virus two weeks ago. She was sick for about 5 days. Not too bad. Lost taste and smell...had a fever. Slight cough. Feels better and bake to work.

My other friend had it too during the same period. Same thing. Couple days under the weather...couple days no taste or smell. Both were always in my house..so me and my old lady were also exposed. Neither of us got sick. We never even tested. Just did 10 days in quarantine. Whatever.

Good luck to everyone... vaccine not not. I'm over all of it.


Oh, YOU'RE over it, eh? I didn't know it was as simple as that. Can it be over for us too? :lol: Did you ask Mr. COVID if it was over too? I hate to break it to you but the only way this can be "over" is for everybody to get vaccinated.

That said, glad to see that your vaxxed and safe.


Herd immunity is the answer. Why do people act like natural immunity is meaningless? I mean....you think booster shots every 8 months is the answer? It will go away when it runs through everyone. All we have managed to do is slow the pace and lessen the symptoms. Nothing is stopping this.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#203 » by BKlutch » Sat Sep 4, 2021 1:00 am

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BKlutch wrote:
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yes lawd.

and i'd say i'm feeling a little fatigue and soreness about the lymph node. but nothing alarming. normal day otherwise.

I know there are some people who like to complain about the amount of side effects you're experiencing, but I lost a long time friend and another was sick for many months of lasting problems from Covid. So I just decided not to be a baby when I got mine, and I always appreciate others who keep their perspective on this, too.

Is it possible that some of those who scream the loudest about not wanting the vaccine are just afraid afraid of needles and just being big babies? Misery loves company, so they try to get others to refuse, too, and put many others at risk.

Most people don't know it, but in the past, if a person were bitten by a dog — and that dog was potentially rabid — they had to receive a series of injections that were so painful that they had to be injected in the the big muscle in your belly (the rectus abdomens) — because injecting into smaller muscles could destroy those muscles. People were in agony from the rabies vaccine, but it was a choice of either accepting that torture or certain death in a horribly way within days. There is nothing about the Covid vaccines that is anywhere nearly as bad as that.

Congrats on doing the right thing.


I’m sorry for your loss. I too have lost loved ones during this pandemic. I also work in healthcare, so this has been a very exhausting and saddening experience.

I think people not getting vaccinated are standing firmly in beliefs. I don’t understand all of them. Some of them are not rooted in reality. In the case of my background, black people are distrustful. We have reason to be. But not everything is a trap or conspiracy. I’m alarmed at the extent to which masses have been confused. It’s a public health problem for our entire country.

After years of being abused and played, being skeptical is certainly understandable. But almost all doctors and so many white people have gotten vaccinated, so that should be a sign. This all goes to show that racism, lack of education, exclusion from the political process, and so many other things that happen in our society are insidious and kill people in ways we'd never have expected.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#204 » by Knick4Real » Sat Sep 4, 2021 1:29 am

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Brooklyn Nets, New York Knicks and Golden State Warriors players who haven't received a COVID-19 vaccine won't be allowed to play in their home arenas without an exemption, The Athletic's Shams Charania reports.

Per the report, local regulations in New York and San Francisco bar unvaccinated players from even entering the Barclays Center, Madison Square Garden and the Chase Center without an approved medical or religious exemption. The NBA has informed teams that those laws indeed apply to players.

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-unvaccinated-nets-knicks-warriors-players-wont-be-allowed-to-play-in-home-arenas-221836256.html
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#205 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Sep 4, 2021 1:41 am

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Yup. All fun and games until you get a serious case of Covid.

I can't for the life of me understand how people can on the one hand dismiss the entire body of research related to Covid and on the other just randomly accept some theory that an unrelated drug or substance is just what the doctor ordered. Let alone one that is only approved for livestock. Combined stupidity and arrogance is a dangerous cocktail.


I hope this Ivermectin scandal and the Regeron treatments pushed by Govs. Abbott and De Santis is investigated by the DOJ. There are too many political anti-vaxxers who are profiteering off people getting sick and then desperate for a cure. There is very little belief involved, just self-interest in many cases. Meanwhile, the gullible public that repeats the BS they are fed prop up these dirty politicians.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#206 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Sep 4, 2021 1:46 am

Are We Ther Yet wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:Got my second shot Wednesday. My daughter brought home the Delta virus two weeks ago. She was sick for about 5 days. Not too bad. Lost taste and smell...had a fever. Slight cough. Feels better and bake to work.

My other friend had it too during the same period. Same thing. Couple days under the weather...couple days no taste or smell. Both were always in my house..so me and my old lady were also exposed. Neither of us got sick. We never even tested. Just did 10 days in quarantine. Whatever.

Good luck to everyone... vaccine not not. I'm over all of it.


Oh, YOU'RE over it, eh? I didn't know it was as simple as that. Can it be over for us too? :lol: Did you ask Mr. COVID if it was over too? I hate to break it to you but the only way this can be "over" is for everybody to get vaccinated.

That said, glad to see that your vaxxed and safe.


Herd immunity is the answer. Why do people act like natural immunity is meaningless? I mean....you think booster shots every 8 months is the answer? It will go away when it runs through everyone. All we have managed to do is slow the pace and lessen the symptoms. Nothing is stopping this.


Maybe the world should have all volunteered to get polio instead of getting the polio vaccine and been happy with our crippled arms and legs to achieve herd immunity.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#207 » by Capn'O » Sat Sep 4, 2021 2:07 am

It looks like we'll get to herd immunity one way or the other with this one but you can't let it run without checks or the health care system would be beyond overwhelmed. We've already seen it here and elsewhere with this virus.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#208 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Sep 4, 2021 2:14 am

Capn'O wrote:It looks like we'll get to herd immunity one way or the other with this one but you can't let it run without checks or the health care system would be beyond overwhelmed. We've already seen it here and elsewhere with this virus.


Perhaps, but don’t be too confident in that, because it will rage for some time in other regions. For instance, Africa is almost completely unvaccinated. It will continue mutating globally and crossing borders. Only super vigilant countries like NZ will be able to keep it in check.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#209 » by Capn'O » Sat Sep 4, 2021 2:29 am

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Capn'O wrote:It looks like we'll get to herd immunity one way or the other with this one but you can't let it run without checks or the health care system would be beyond overwhelmed. We've already seen it here and elsewhere with this virus.


Perhaps, but don’t be too confident in that, because it will rage for some time in other regions. For instance, Africa is almost completely unvaccinated. It will continue mutating globally and crossing borders. Only super vigilant countries like NZ will be able to keep it in check.


Lol. You should know me better than to read that as optimism.

And some of the super vigilant countries, Australia in particular, are taking measures that are concerning in their own right in controlling the virus.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#210 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Sep 4, 2021 2:35 am

Capn'O wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:It looks like we'll get to herd immunity one way or the other with this one but you can't let it run without checks or the health care system would be beyond overwhelmed. We've already seen it here and elsewhere with this virus.


Perhaps, but don’t be too confident in that, because it will rage for some time in other regions. For instance, Africa is almost completely unvaccinated. It will continue mutating globally and crossing borders. Only super vigilant countries like NZ will be able to keep it in check.


Lol. You should know me better than to read that as optimism.

And some of the super vigilant countries, Australia in particular, are taking measures that are concerning in their own right in controlling the virus.


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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#211 » by Zenzibar » Sat Sep 4, 2021 2:47 am

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BKlutch wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
yes lawd.

and i'd say i'm feeling a little fatigue and soreness about the lymph node. but nothing alarming. normal day otherwise.

I know there are some people who like to complain about the amount of side effects you're experiencing, but I lost a long time friend and another was sick for many months of lasting problems from Covid. So I just decided not to be a baby when I got mine, and I always appreciate others who keep their perspective on this, too.

Is it possible that some of those who scream the loudest about not wanting the vaccine are just afraid afraid of needles and just being big babies? Misery loves company, so they try to get others to refuse, too, and put many others at risk.

Most people don't know it, but in the past, if a person were bitten by a dog — and that dog was potentially rabid — they had to receive a series of injections that were so painful that they had to be injected in the the big muscle in your belly (the rectus abdomens) — because injecting into smaller muscles could destroy those muscles. People were in agony from the rabies vaccine, but it was a choice of either accepting that torture or certain death in a horribly way within days. There is nothing about the Covid vaccines that is anywhere nearly as bad as that.

Congrats on doing the right thing.


I’m sorry for your loss. I too have lost loved ones during this pandemic. I also work in healthcare, so this has been a very exhausting and saddening experience.

I think people not getting vaccinated are standing firmly in beliefs. I don’t understand all of them. Some of them are not rooted in reality. In the case of my background, black people are distrustful. We have reason to be. But not everything is a trap or conspiracy. I’m alarmed at the extent to which masses have been confused. It’s a public health problem for our entire country.


Understand that during the initial crisis leadership was lacking, unprofessional and contentious.

Now the same government (regardless of affiliation) confused, lackluster and embroiled, want us to follow them.

People are not having it. Lies, deciet, old, pitting Americans against eachother and we're suppose to trust you?

Delta, varriants, wu, boosters, Bill Gates, Fauci, bats, etc.

No wonder only 52% of Americans are diving head first into these vaccination
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#212 » by stuporman » Sat Sep 4, 2021 4:11 am

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stuporman wrote:The conspiratorial mind doesn't have to be logical in it's reasoning and can justify anything as long as it supports their already held belief/opinion.

That's probably the correct explanation. If they can't accept reality, they change what they believe is reality to fit their illogical conclusions.

So if I don't want to believe falling off a cliff would kill me, I just just step right off the edge of the Grand Canyon and enjoy the ride down.

Or not.


Further compounding the circumstances in addition to the motivated reasoning and conformation bias of the 'believers' there can also be a strong element of magical thinking and belief in the absence of or despite the evidence.

As an example many of them reject the overwhelming evidence that supports the efficacy and safety of the vaccines while believing the notion that livestock dewormer or some other fringe treatment/chemical is the cure. With all these overlaying psychological dynamics it's virtually impossible for true reality to penetrate the mindset.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#213 » by Zenzibar » Sat Sep 4, 2021 6:00 am

https://www.news18.com/news/lifestyle/measles-mumps-and-rubella-vaccines-likely-to-lower-risk-of-severe-covid-19-infection-4152065.html


Measles, Mumps and Rubella Vaccines Likely To Lower Risk of Severe Covid-19 Infection


The Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) vaccine, given during early childhood, and Tetanus-Diphtheria-Pertussis (Tdap) vaccine, given every 10 years, may help lower the risk of severe Covid-19, according to researchers.

Besides eliciting a protective response against the diseases it is possible that both MMR and Tdap vaccines may also elicit cross-reactive memory T cells capable of responding to protein targets called antigens that are present in other microbes that cause diseases — including the viral antigens in SARS-CoV-2, said researchers from the Brigham and Women’s Hospital in the US.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#214 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Sep 4, 2021 12:25 pm

Zenzibar wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
BKlutch wrote:I know there are some people who like to complain about the amount of side effects you're experiencing, but I lost a long time friend and another was sick for many months of lasting problems from Covid. So I just decided not to be a baby when I got mine, and I always appreciate others who keep their perspective on this, too.

Is it possible that some of those who scream the loudest about not wanting the vaccine are just afraid afraid of needles and just being big babies? Misery loves company, so they try to get others to refuse, too, and put many others at risk.

Most people don't know it, but in the past, if a person were bitten by a dog — and that dog was potentially rabid — they had to receive a series of injections that were so painful that they had to be injected in the the big muscle in your belly (the rectus abdomens) — because injecting into smaller muscles could destroy those muscles. People were in agony from the rabies vaccine, but it was a choice of either accepting that torture or certain death in a horribly way within days. There is nothing about the Covid vaccines that is anywhere nearly as bad as that.

Congrats on doing the right thing.


I’m sorry for your loss. I too have lost loved ones during this pandemic. I also work in healthcare, so this has been a very exhausting and saddening experience.

I think people not getting vaccinated are standing firmly in beliefs. I don’t understand all of them. Some of them are not rooted in reality. In the case of my background, black people are distrustful. We have reason to be. But not everything is a trap or conspiracy. I’m alarmed at the extent to which masses have been confused. It’s a public health problem for our entire country.


Understand that during the initial crisis leadership was lacking, unprofessional and contentious.

Now the same government (regardless of affiliation) confused, lackluster and embroiled, want us to follow them.

People are not having it. Lies, deciet, old, pitting Americans against eachother and we're suppose to trust you?

Delta, varriants, wu, boosters, Bill Gates, Fauci, bats, etc.

No wonder only 52% of Americans are diving head first into these vaccination


How so?

Biden’s administration made it so you could walk into a pharmacy in every town and get a free shot. The characterization of Trump’s handling is accurate, but not of the current regime. They mobilized quickly the largest vaccination program in our country’s history.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#215 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Sep 4, 2021 12:26 pm

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Zenzibar wrote:Who will be the 1st Knick player to refuse to play at the garden due to the new MSG vaccine mandate?

Noone is saying that Dolan is a dick due to the mandate? What a revelation.


Can we prevent unvaccinated away players and staff from playing in our arena?

Maybe we can get more wins that way.


They’ll all get their shots. I don’t think we’ll live to see a player throw his career away over an anti-vaxx stance
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Post#216 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Sep 4, 2021 1:17 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:
Oh, YOU'RE over it, eh? I didn't know it was as simple as that. Can it be over for us too? :lol: Did you ask Mr. COVID if it was over too? I hate to break it to you but the only way this can be "over" is for everybody to get vaccinated.

That said, glad to see that your vaxxed and safe.


Herd immunity is the answer. Why do people act like natural immunity is meaningless? I mean....you think booster shots every 8 months is the answer? It will go away when it runs through everyone. All we have managed to do is slow the pace and lessen the symptoms. Nothing is stopping this.


Maybe the world should have all volunteered to get polio instead of getting the polio vaccine and been happy with our crippled arms and legs to achieve herd immunity.


What a stupid comment.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#217 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Sep 4, 2021 1:23 pm

Zenzibar wrote:https://www.news18.com/news/lifestyle/measles-mumps-and-rubella-vaccines-likely-to-lower-risk-of-severe-covid-19-infection-4152065.html


Measles, Mumps and Rubella Vaccines Likely To Lower Risk of Severe Covid-19 Infection


The Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) vaccine, given during early childhood, and Tetanus-Diphtheria-Pertussis (Tdap) vaccine, given every 10 years, may help lower the risk of severe Covid-19, according to researchers.

Besides eliciting a protective response against the diseases it is possible that both MMR and Tdap vaccines may also elicit cross-reactive memory T cells capable of responding to protein targets called antigens that are present in other microbes that cause diseases — including the viral antigens in SARS-CoV-2, said researchers from the Brigham and Women’s Hospital in the US.


So another dose of those vaccines or...we are already vaccinated? :lol:
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#218 » by Zenzibar » Sat Sep 4, 2021 4:41 pm

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Zenzibar wrote:
Jeff Van Gully wrote:
I’m sorry for your loss. I too have lost loved ones during this pandemic. I also work in healthcare, so this has been a very exhausting and saddening experience.

I think people not getting vaccinated are standing firmly in beliefs. I don’t understand all of them. Some of them are not rooted in reality. In the case of my background, black people are distrustful. We have reason to be. But not everything is a trap or conspiracy. I’m alarmed at the extent to which masses have been confused. It’s a public health problem for our entire country.


Understand that during the initial crisis leadership was lacking, unprofessional and contentious.

Now the same government (regardless of affiliation) confused, lackluster and embroiled, want us to follow them.

People are not having it. Lies, deciet, old, pitting Americans against eachother and we're suppose to trust you?

Delta, varriants, wu, boosters, Bill Gates, Fauci, bats, etc.

No wonder only 52% of Americans are diving head first into these vaccination


How so?

Biden’s administration made it so you could walk into a pharmacy in every town and get a free shot. The characterization of Trump’s handling is accurate, but not of the current regime. They mobilized quickly the largest vaccination program in our country’s history.


That's true bit I also understand that affiliations have a tendency to cloud perceptions but Americans just don't trust the Government as an entity and in general.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#219 » by Jeff Van Gully » Sat Sep 4, 2021 4:48 pm

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Jeff Van Gully wrote:
BKlutch wrote:I know there are some people who like to complain about the amount of side effects you're experiencing, but I lost a long time friend and another was sick for many months of lasting problems from Covid. So I just decided not to be a baby when I got mine, and I always appreciate others who keep their perspective on this, too.

Is it possible that some of those who scream the loudest about not wanting the vaccine are just afraid afraid of needles and just being big babies? Misery loves company, so they try to get others to refuse, too, and put many others at risk.

Most people don't know it, but in the past, if a person were bitten by a dog — and that dog was potentially rabid — they had to receive a series of injections that were so painful that they had to be injected in the the big muscle in your belly (the rectus abdomens) — because injecting into smaller muscles could destroy those muscles. People were in agony from the rabies vaccine, but it was a choice of either accepting that torture or certain death in a horribly way within days. There is nothing about the Covid vaccines that is anywhere nearly as bad as that.

Congrats on doing the right thing.


I’m sorry for your loss. I too have lost loved ones during this pandemic. I also work in healthcare, so this has been a very exhausting and saddening experience.

I think people not getting vaccinated are standing firmly in beliefs. I don’t understand all of them. Some of them are not rooted in reality. In the case of my background, black people are distrustful. We have reason to be. But not everything is a trap or conspiracy. I’m alarmed at the extent to which masses have been confused. It’s a public health problem for our entire country.


Understand that during the initial crisis leadership was lacking, unprofessional and contentious.

Now the same government (regardless of affiliation) confused, lackluster and embroiled, want us to follow them.

People are not having it. Lies, deciet, old, pitting Americans against eachother and we're suppose to trust you?

Delta, varriants, wu, boosters, Bill Gates, Fauci, bats, etc.

No wonder only 52% of Americans are diving head first into these vaccination


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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#220 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Sep 4, 2021 4:51 pm

Are We Ther Yet wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:
Herd immunity is the answer. Why do people act like natural immunity is meaningless? I mean....you think booster shots every 8 months is the answer? It will go away when it runs through everyone. All we have managed to do is slow the pace and lessen the symptoms. Nothing is stopping this.


Maybe the world should have all volunteered to get polio instead of getting the polio vaccine and been happy with our crippled arms and legs to achieve herd immunity.


What a stupid comment.


It was a rhetorical question not a personal attack

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