The Trey Lance thread

thesack12 · Post #281 » by **thesack12** » Fri Sep 3, 2021 9:53 pm

Jikkle wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Great video, thanks for sharing.

I'm going to have to seek out more from that guy, he breaks down film/plays very well.

Pattersonca65 · Post #282 » by **Pattersonca65** » Fri Sep 3, 2021 10:25 pm

I chipped the bone in my thumb once. After a week it was healed and I was ready to go with no after effects

Pattersonca65 · Post #283 » by **Pattersonca65** » Fri Sep 3, 2021 10:27 pm

thesack12 wrote:I watched the live stream of Cohn's instant reaction to the game. I generally find Grant to be entertaining, but I turned it off after like 10 minutes, because he was almost insufferable.

Dude was acting like the the season is already a complete waste, because Jimmy will open the season as the starter. As if Jimmy is Blaine Gabbert or something. Then he goes on a ridiculous long winded rant proclaiming the Lance pick to be a failure because Kyle isn't starting Trey week 1.

Part of me believes Grant has hot takes like these just to get clicks/attention, but he was extra amped up and bent out of shape last night so who knows.

If that is what Cohn said then all I can say is Cohn is an idiot.

Jikkle · Post #284 » by **Jikkle** » Sun Sep 5, 2021 11:11 am

Even if it takes a little longer than a week it doesn't sound like the finger will be an issue when it comes to the Lions game and it's prep.

Barring a huge surprise it's looking like Jimmy G is going to be the starter so Trey will get in there with some select plays so it's not like he needs a ton of reps to prep for the game especially since I'd guess those plays will lean towards being zone reads anyways.

thesack12 · Post #285 » by **thesack12** » Mon Sep 6, 2021 6:11 pm

Read on Twitter

This is encouraging

thesack12 · Post #286 » by **thesack12** » Mon Sep 6, 2021 6:13 pm

Read on Twitter

This is not so encouraging

Pattersonca65 · Post #287 » by **Pattersonca65** » Mon Sep 6, 2021 7:49 pm

thesack12 wrote:

Read on Twitter

This is not so encouraging

I had the same injury. He will be fine. He just has to avoid anything that risks reinjuring it for a week or so

arich35 · Post #288 » by **arich35** » Mon Sep 6, 2021 7:55 pm

thesack12 wrote:

Read on Twitter

This is not so encouraging

Yeah it would suck if he isn't available Sunday but not the end of the world

Jikkle · Post #289 » by **Jikkle** » Mon Sep 6, 2021 9:40 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
thesack12 wrote:

Read on Twitter

This is not so encouraging

I had the same injury. He will be fine. He just has to avoid anything that risks reinjuring it for a week or so

They took the split off so I'd venture to guess they are just being cautious and he could throw if they wanted him too. The key days are Wednesday and Thursday because those are the prep and install days.

I highly doubt this will impact their plans for him on Sunday and I would expect him to be full go for whatever they intend to use him for.

Jikkle · Post #290 » by **Jikkle** » Mon Sep 6, 2021 9:46 pm

Watch on YouTube

What excites me about Trey is the issues he has I believe are fixable but the things that aren't fixable like arm strength or mental processing speed he seems to have a high capacity for.

Jikkle · Post #291 » by **Jikkle** » Mon Oct 4, 2021 4:55 am

Read on Twitter

Big reason why you draft him because if he can put the pieces together in the other areas you have yourself a playmaker.

Feels he's being underrated in the fact that he had 3 4th down conversions and you could maybe argue 4 if you want to count the 4 and 1 that was called back on the penalty.

wco81 · Post #292 » by **wco81** » Mon Oct 4, 2021 5:16 am

His accuracy beyond 10-15 yards wasn't there.

He escaped pressure a couple of times but he's detecting the pressure too late other times.

And he's got to learn to slide or go out of bounds.

More reps will help but he doesn't seem to have instincts like Rothlisberger or Wilson had as rookies.

Jikkle · Post #293 » by **Jikkle** » Mon Oct 4, 2021 9:53 am

wco81 wrote:His accuracy beyond 10-15 yards wasn't there.

He escaped pressure a couple of times but he's detecting the pressure too late other times.

And he's got to learn to slide or go out of bounds.

More reps will help but he doesn't seem to have instincts like Rothlisberger or Wilson had as rookies.

Watch on YouTube

Video is of all his snaps and watching it again I thought he did better at navigating pressure than I first thought.

Thought there were only two plays were you could say he was late in detecting pressure and both plays were basically the same with Dunlap beating McGlinchey pretty quickly from the snap.

Hard to say if it's a blindspot or if it's something he'll get the feel of with experience because both of those pressures probably could've been avoided if he stepped up into the pocket which he needs to learn to do.

The other thing to look for will be if there were passes to be made that he didn't pull the trigger on but scrambled out of. Impossible to really tell that until we get All-22.

Mamba Mentality · Post #294 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Mon Oct 4, 2021 3:09 pm

He had a couple throws into the ground, but that's expected for a guy playing against 1's for the first time in his professional career. Overall he flashed more good than bad. Next week should give us a better idea of where Trey is in the developmental process when the playbook is tailored to his skill set. One thing that I don't think anyone can argue is that he gives this team a big play dimension that we lacked under Jimmy G. I'm hyped for week 5.

wco81 · Post #295 » by **wco81** » Mon Oct 4, 2021 4:14 pm

Pretty much a must win and it's a lot to put on his shoulder, to try to keep up with Murray, who has a new weapon in AJ Green.

wco81 · Post #296 » by **wco81** » Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:17 pm

Stares down receivers so his passes get tipped.

Several designed runs but he also runs when protection breaks down. How many of those plays are because he's not seeing receivers who may be open?

He's got to slide, because he's taken some shots to the head but also a lot of body shots.

Just have to hope his development curve rises quick. He's not processing quickly enough but that's to be expected in his first start. But are there some defined reads that he's not pulling the trigger on? He ran on one play where they had a screen set up. Then on a slant, the ball was high and behind the WR, probably because he was a bit late.

Jikkle · Post #297 » by **Jikkle** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:52 am

wco81 wrote:Stares down receivers so his passes get tipped.

Several designed runs but he also runs when protection breaks down. How many of those plays are because he's not seeing receivers who may be open?

He's got to slide, because he's taken some shots to the head but also a lot of body shots.

Just have to hope his development curve rises quick. He's not processing quickly enough but that's to be expected in his first start. But are there some defined reads that he's not pulling the trigger on? He ran on one play where they had a screen set up. Then on a slant, the ball was high and behind the WR, probably because he was a bit late.

The main one to me is he's got to learn to protect himself better and curb the instinct to want to fight for yards.

The other things are things that will (hopefully) improve with time and experience. I mean there is a reason why Shanahan is sticking with Jimmy G so intently and wanting Lance to sit and develop as Jimmy G improves your chances to win now where Lance is for winning down the road.

I saw enough to be hopeful and excited for the future because when he does execute at a high level it's pretty top-tier stuff. He has accuracy issues but when he is accurate he really hits his spots like the pass to Aiyuk that he put in a perfect spot to get the 3rd down conversion.

Pattersonca65 · Post #298 » by **Pattersonca65** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:47 pm

Lance out two weeks with a sprained knee

wco81 · Post #299 » by **wco81** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:03 am

Those designed runs were probably great ideas.

Samurai · Post #300 » by **Samurai** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:47 am

Pattersonca65 wrote:Lance out two weeks with a sprained knee

On a positive note, Shanahan said he "expects" Jimmy G, K'Waun Williams and JaMychal Hasty to return after the bye week and that Dre Greenlaw has an "outside chance" of returning then. So even if Greenlaw doesn't return then, he should be getting fairly close. Lance will be re-evaluated later this week to determine if he will be available against the Colts or not.