Cedric Ceballos in ICU with COVID

[Swish1906]

So I guess obese people should be the last to receive medical care from here on out. Since they put the biggest strain on the health care system.

If you could get a couple free inoculations that prevent obesity it would certainly save a lot of lives and a lot of money spent on public health.

Last time I check a healthy life style is as free as those jabs and way safer.

Nice try. Last time i checked a healthy lifestyle requires 24/7 discipline. The jabs costs you a few minutes of your life

[ORLMagicGirl15]

You know, sometimes all it takes is “Good luck and I wish you well.”

Praying for you Ced.

[taikibansei]

Im personally vaccinated but man people get really insufferable about it.

Yeah, those people wanting to prevent people dying are SO insufferable

There's a difference between wanting to prevent people from dying and rubbing it in your face when you are dying

And the anti-vaxxers claiming they just "kNoW" so much more than the rest of us about vaccines/COVID--but then saying they didn't know and starting up GoFundMe pages to beg for money once they get sick--are not insufferable? And meanwhile, people with cancer, MS, Type 1 diabetes, etc. can't even get in to see a doctor because the anti-vaxxers are clogging up my local hospitals....

[Da ThRONe]

The funny thing is all these people talking **** and they don't even know if he's vaccinated or not. That should tell you how meaningless the argument really is at it's most basic level.

[Duke4life831]

Stuff like this is just sad. This guy is clearly fighting for his life and the vast majority of people just care about his vaccine status so they can see if they can use this as a pro or con for their side of the argument. I mean we even have people saying he should maybe lose his spot in the ICU based on his vaccine status.

The coldness of many people nowadays is eye opening. I hope he gets the best available care and gets healthy.

And just a heads up, I’m not looking to debate on this topic. So you can quote me but I’m not going to read it. Don’t really care about having a debate over someone who is currently fighting for his life.

[Shock Defeat]

The funny thing is all these people talking **** and they don't even know if he's vaccinated or not. That should tell you how meaningless the argument really is at it's most basic level.

It's incredibly unlikely that he is fully vaccinated, the stats prove it out.

We've just seen this story so many times, when people ask for prayers or gofundme pages for being hospitalized with covid, it turns out that they weren't vaccinated.

[Plutonashfan]

The funny thing is all these people talking **** and they don't even know if he's vaccinated or not. That should tell you how meaningless the argument really is at it's most basic level.

It's incredibly unlikely that he is fully vaccinated, the stats prove it out.

We've just seen this story so many times, when people ask for prayers or gofundme pages for being hospitalized with covid, it turns out that they weren't vaccinated.

Yup, but like most things the anti-vaxx crowds doesn't understand medicine, science, or even basic math or statistics. Hopefully he gets better but sounds like his in real bad shape.

[76thBearCub]

Yup, but like most things the anti-vaxx crowds don't understand medicine, science, or even basic math or statistics.

This is exactly what I meant when I said people get insufferable about it.

[Asianiac_24]

So I guess obese people should be the last to receive medical care from here on out. Since they put the biggest strain on the health care system.

If you could get a couple free inoculations that prevent obesity it would certainly save a lot of lives and a lot of money spent on public health.

Last time I check a healthy life style is as free as those jabs and way safer.

Buy a Burger King combo and buy a grass fed steak and let me know which one is cheaper.

If there’s a shot people can take that can make them instantly skinny, I’m sure people would be taking it. Stop listening to Joe Rogan, he’s not a doctor

[Swish1906]

The funny thing is all these people talking **** and they don't even know if he's vaccinated or not. That should tell you how meaningless the argument really is at it's most basic level.

The funny thing is that a vaxxed person would for sure tell that he is vaxxed because he doesnt want ppl to think that he isnt vaxxed/didnt take it seriously/is a denier etc. Thats a principle thing. But maybe just vaxxed people understand this thought process, huh...

And of course the odds...

[The Goonibomber]

Amazing how a forum that is *so* aware of the pitfalls of misleading statistics when it comes to a game, could be so easily led to draw conclusions about morality and mortality based on some numbers that they were handed.

Idk. I’m an eye-test guy.

[Da ThRONe]

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/nearly-60-of-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-in-israel-fully-vaccinated-study-finds.html

[Asianiac_24]

Stuff like this is just sad. This guy is clearly fighting for his life and the vast majority of people just care about his vaccine status so they can see if they can use this as a pro or con for their side of the argument. I mean we even have people saying he should maybe lose his spot in the ICU based on his vaccine status.

The coldness of many people nowadays is eye opening. I hope he gets the best available care and gets healthy.

And just a heads up, I’m not looking to debate on this topic. So you can quote me but I’m not going to read it. Don’t really care about having a debate over someone who is currently fighting for his life.

Coldness is allowing this stuff to slide when there is a clear fix to prevent this. Given how packed hospitals are, he is likely taking up a hospital bed that could be used to host another patient, either with diabetes, car accident, and what not. This other person is not able to have the care he or she needs because this selfish guy is refusing to take the vaccine, and is now in the hospital for it.

If you refuse to get vaccinated, unless you can prove a medical condition preventing you from getting it, you should sign away your rights to a spot in the hospital for covid. Ask your Facebook doctor how to breathe without a ventilator.

[Blacksheep25]

The funny thing is all these people talking **** and they don't even know if he's vaccinated or not. That should tell you how meaningless the argument really is at it's most basic level.

The funny thing is that a vaxxed person would for sure tell that he is vaxxed because he doesnt want ppl to think that he isnt vaxxed/didnt take it seriously/is a denier etc. Thats a principle thing. But maybe just vaxxed people understand this thought process, huh...

And of course the odds...

Of course. It’s like someone getting lung cancer who isn’t a smoker. You want people to know you weren’t an idiot, just unlucky. Much more respect for smokers though, as they only put themselves and maybe someone who lives with them 24/7 at risk. These people had no regard for your loved ones. Prayers for sociopaths, no thanks.

[LAvision]

The funny thing is all these people talking **** and they don't even know if he's vaccinated or not. That should tell you how meaningless the argument really is at it's most basic level.

It's incredibly unlikely that he is fully vaccinated, the stats prove it out.

We've just seen this story so many times, when people ask for prayers or gofundme pages for being hospitalized with covid, it turns out that they weren't vaccinated.

Yup, but like most things the anti-vaxx crowds doesn't understand medicine, science, or even basic math or statistics. Hopefully he gets better but sounds like his in real bad shape.

Sadly he'll probably never fully recover. Even if he makes it, people on long termed ventilators have damaged/scarred lungs. All of this is so stupid and senseless.

[bballfan1three3]

If he isn’t vaccinated, this might sound cruel but IMO he should automatically give up, or at least be at the end of the queue for the ICU.

You are putting everyone at risk, prolonging the pandemic, and now taking up a valuable spot in the hospital because you refuse to listen to the professional doctors and got your advice off social media or news outlet.

So I guess obese people should be the last to receive medical care from here on out. Since they put the biggest strain on the health care system.

Agreed
Even more than vacc deniers
Fatties had their chance, sick of seeing obeasts

[Neutral 123]

Vaccinated?

Unlikely, 0.06% of hospitalized patients are vaccinated in Arkansas, 0.07% in New Jersey. This basically means for every ~1500 unvaccined people hospitalized for Covid-19, you should observe 1 fully vaccinated individual hospitalized.

These are just two states reporting statistics. This is not about ICU, this is hospitalization in general. ICU numbers should be lower.

The vaccines do not guarantee that you will not catch Covid, but all of them, including the Russian Sputnik V and all the Chinese ones, will prevent you from dying (very very unlikely to die).

LOL no. They are counting total cases before there was even a vaccine available. The vaccine is estimated to cut your risk of death by 50% and hospitalization by 70%. Of course, that doesn't include risks from the vaccine itself. Risks still coming to light and some yet to be determined.

[Neutral 123]

The funny thing is all these people talking **** and they don't even know if he's vaccinated or not. That should tell you how meaningless the argument really is at it's most basic level.

The funny thing is that a vaxxed person would for sure tell that he is vaxxed because he doesnt want ppl to think that he isnt vaxxed/didnt take it seriously/is a denier etc. Thats a principle thing. But maybe just vaxxed people understand this thought process, huh...

And of course the odds...

Of course. It’s like someone getting lung cancer who isn’t a smoker. You want people to know you weren’t an idiot, just unlucky. Much more respect for smokers though, as they only put themselves and maybe someone who lives with them 24/7 at risk. These people had no regard for your loved ones. Prayers for sociopaths, no thanks.

You clearly are too young to remember the battle over smoking. As for the vaccine, no one has explained how getting vaccinated protects everyone other than yourself lol.

[Neutral 123]

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/nearly-60-of-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-in-israel-fully-vaccinated-study-finds.html

SHHHHH... They aren't ready for that.

[Noctilux]

The funny thing is all these people talking **** and they don't even know if he's vaccinated or not. That should tell you how meaningless the argument really is at it's most basic level.

I think we all know the answer to that.