I don't get the notion that Lakers are absolutely stacked

[Neutral 123]

Stop dancing answer the questions all of them.

Stop dancing around what? Russ has never won a chip despite many rosters equipped to do just that. Now with Lebron old, AD still injury prone and Westbrook worse than he's ever been, getting out of the west is not a lock. there's nothing controversial about that opinion. That's an opinion Vegas agrees with. 52.5 over under? Yikes.

You must be hard of comprehension. I'll list his questions below, one below another to make it easy for you. Answer each one directly and clearly.

How many finals has james harden been to?
How many has durant been to without the warriors?
Did the wiz make it to the playoffs in 2020?
How far has bradley beal gone without Russ?

I hope this easy to scan list of questions is clear enough for you.

I didn't answer them because they are irrelevant and intentionally misleading.
The Rockets got worse when they 'upgraded' for Westbrook.
Durant started winning immediately after getting away from Westbrook.
The Wiz barely eeked into the playoffs lol.

Westbrook has underwhelming team success given the amount of talent he's played with. He's had Durant leave him, PG leave him, Harden leave him. There's still time to redeem himself though. Hopefully he can make the Lakers better.

[LakersSquadup]

Stop dancing around what? Russ has never won a chip despite many rosters equipped to do just that. Now with Lebron old, AD still injury prone and Westbrook worse than he's ever been, getting out of the west is not a lock. there's nothing controversial about that opinion. That's an opinion Vegas agrees with. 52.5 over under? Yikes.

You must be hard of comprehension. I'll list his questions below, one below another to make it easy for you. Answer each one directly and clearly.

How many finals has james harden been to?
How many has durant been to without the warriors?
Did the wiz make it to the playoffs in 2020?
How far has bradley beal gone without Russ?

I hope this easy to scan list of questions is clear enough for you.

I didn't answer them because they are irrelevant and intentionally misleading.
The Rockets got worse when they 'upgraded' for Westbrook.
Durant started winning immediately after getting away from Westbrook.
The Wiz barely eeked into the playoffs lol.

Westbrook has underwhelming team success given the amount of talent he's played with. He's had Durant leave him, PG leave him, Harden leave him. There's still time to redeem himself though. Hopefully he can make the Lakers better.

How are the questions irrelevant when you brought those guys up? Your post and points are historically bad!! Durant joined a 73 win team of course they won with him. Lol

[Pennebaker]

The Lakers are not "absolutely stacked" but they're going to be good anyway.

Westbrook is not considered to be in top form and he's been struggling to find a home after OKC. The other key guys are over 35.

So LAL is not going to win because they're "stacked" - they're going to win because they'll have chemistry, a very high team IQ and defense.

[Lalouie]

Sure, they look like a great team cause because LeBron and Davis are that good. But where all the other stuff? Maybe I am off on Westbrook, if you see Westbrook as NBA superstar, ok, they have 3 superstars in your eyes, but in my opinion Westbrook is not a very good star and a questionable fit. ANd the rest of their team are guys who were great 5+ years ago but are nearly done now.

Lakers might as well reach the finals cause LeBron and Davis can be that good, but I dont see them nearly as loaded as the Nets are. There is a huge drop off after 2 main stars and their role players are old and arent that good anymore. I think Nets are clear favorites to win it all.

so you're idea of stacked is to compare them to the nets

history says teams that win are vet teams. so in today's nba utah, den, mavs, philly, bos, atl, phx are young and it is simply not their time. it also has been posited that mil and phx made it because of injuries to other teams. furthermore a fully heathly clip team would also be a favorite along with a healthy gsw, lakers, nets, and the incumbant bucks.

also the vets teams are not yet ready to give up their place and they are about 2 or 3 years away from retiring. so in the current environment,,,the lakers are indeed stacked, regardless of age and they have enough shooting. i see why the media jumps on the lakers' age because that's the obvious story, but vets are EXACTLY what has driven ring teams,,,,all except the blazers in 77.

this is why lebron always opts for vets

[Neutral 123]

You must be hard of comprehension. I'll list his questions below, one below another to make it easy for you. Answer each one directly and clearly.

How many finals has james harden been to?
How many has durant been to without the warriors?
Did the wiz make it to the playoffs in 2020?
How far has bradley beal gone without Russ?

I hope this easy to scan list of questions is clear enough for you.

I didn't answer them because they are irrelevant and intentionally misleading.
The Rockets got worse when they 'upgraded' for Westbrook.
Durant started winning immediately after getting away from Westbrook.
The Wiz barely eeked into the playoffs lol.

Westbrook has underwhelming team success given the amount of talent he's played with. He's had Durant leave him, PG leave him, Harden leave him. There's still time to redeem himself though. Hopefully he can make the Lakers better.

How are the questions irrelevant when you brought those guys up? Your post and points are historically bad!!

I didn't bring them up to play whataboutism. I offered a critique of Westbrook, and the teams results given the amount of talent he's played with. It's fair to question his history, his play style if he can help the Lakers get back to the finals.

[Pennebaker]

I didn't answer them because they are irrelevant and intentionally misleading.
The Rockets got worse when they 'upgraded' for Westbrook.
Durant started winning immediately after getting away from Westbrook.
The Wiz barely eeked into the playoffs lol.

Westbrook has underwhelming team success given the amount of talent he's played with. He's had Durant leave him, PG leave him, Harden leave him. There's still time to redeem himself though. Hopefully he can make the Lakers better.

How are the questions irrelevant when you brought those guys up? Your post and points are historically bad!!

I didn't bring them up to play whataboutism. I offered a critique of Westbrook, and the teams results given the amount of talent he's played with. It's fair to question his history, his play style if he can help the Lakers get back to the finals.

That would've applied to Dwight Howard, Kevin Love, Chris Bosh and Kyrie Irving before LeBron.

I don't think Westbrook is going to have any issues at all. He's going to be another one of these guys that LeBron gets a ring.

[LakersSquadup]

I didn't answer them because they are irrelevant and intentionally misleading.
The Rockets got worse when they 'upgraded' for Westbrook.
Durant started winning immediately after getting away from Westbrook.
The Wiz barely eeked into the playoffs lol.

Westbrook has underwhelming team success given the amount of talent he's played with. He's had Durant leave him, PG leave him, Harden leave him. There's still time to redeem himself though. Hopefully he can make the Lakers better.

How are the questions irrelevant when you brought those guys up? Your post and points are historically bad!!

I didn't bring them up to play whataboutism. I offered a critique of Westbrook, and the teams results given the amount of talent he's played with. It's fair to question his history, his play style if he can help the Lakers get back to the finals.

That’s not how this works if you list the players he’s played with and say Russ couldn’t win with them the question has to be asked did they win? outside of Durant joining a 73 win team the rest have come up short. You cant bring them up then say I don’t want to discuss them.

[Neutral 123]

How are the questions irrelevant when you brought those guys up? Your post and points are historically bad!!

I didn't bring them up to play whataboutism. I offered a critique of Westbrook, and the teams results given the amount of talent he's played with. It's fair to question his history, his play style if he can help the Lakers get back to the finals.

That would've applied to Dwight Howard, Kevin Love, Chris Bosh and Kyrie Irving before LeBron.

I don't think Westbrook is going to have any issues at all. He's going to be another one of these guys that LeBron gets a ring.

Well we'll see. I'd offer that none of those guys played with anywhere near the level of talent Westbrook has and Dwight actually made a finals with Jameer Nelson? Turkoglu? as the second best player.

Will a ball dominant guy like Westbrook take a back seat? Can he even mesh when he's not a shooter? He's a guy known for not being active off the ball. For it to work he'll need to make some major changes imo.

[Neutral 123]

How are the questions irrelevant when you brought those guys up? Your post and points are historically bad!!

I didn't bring them up to play whataboutism. I offered a critique of Westbrook, and the teams results given the amount of talent he's played with. It's fair to question his history, his play style if he can help the Lakers get back to the finals.

That’s not how this works if you list the players he’s played with and say Russ couldn’t win with them the question has to be asked did they win? outside of Durant joining a 73 win team the rest have come up short. You cant bring them up then say I don’t want to discuss them.

Those players have done more given the talent they've played with. Westbrook hasn't just come short, his teams have underachieved given the amount of talent he's had to work with.

[RHODEY]

LBJ - top 5 player
AD - Top 10 player
WB - Top 12 player

And then you have an all time cast of role guys and defenders. Seems pretty stacked to me.

[LakersSquadup]

I didn't bring them up to play whataboutism. I offered a critique of Westbrook, and the teams results given the amount of talent he's played with. It's fair to question his history, his play style if he can help the Lakers get back to the finals.

That’s not how this works if you list the players he’s played with and say Russ couldn’t win with them the question has to be asked did they win? outside of Durant joining a 73 win team the rest have come up short. You cant bring them up then say I don’t want to discuss them.

Those players have done more given the talent they've played with. Westbrook hasn't just come short, his teams have underachieved given the amount of talent he's had to work with.

What is Westbrook supposed to do with Paul George scoring 6 pts in an elimination game? Stop it none of those players have won a ring and made it to the finals without Westbrook so no they haven’t done more with less.

[collidingNeurons]

most polarizing team in the league and lot of bias on both sides, Lakers got deeper and probably better on offense, but I think significantly worse on defense. As many others have pointed out, injuries, Westbrook adapting and the two superstars will determine this teams success. a lot of the guys on their bench are very one dimensional at this point in their careers and defensive liabilities but they have experience and wont care about stats and playing time as much as guys trying to carve out their niche. They are on paper the team to beat in the west but not by a wide margin and any of Utah, Phoenix, Clippers and Denver could all beat them if the later two have their stars back. Nets aren't a perfect team either but a tier above the rest of the league

[Neutral 123]

That’s not how this works if you list the players he’s played with and say Russ couldn’t win with them the question has to be asked did they win? outside of Durant joining a 73 win team the rest have come up short. You cant bring them up then say I don’t want to discuss them.

Those players have done more given the talent they've played with. Westbrook hasn't just come short, his teams have underachieved given the amount of talent he's had to work with.

What is Westbrook supposed to do with Paul George scoring 6 pts in an elimination game? Stop it none of those players have won a ring and made it to the finals without Westbrook so no they haven’t done more with less.

I think it's possible to defend Westbrook if you take everything in isolation. When you look at his entire career, coupled with guys looking to move on from him, that says a lot.

From my eyes and the stats, he's inefficient and makes poor decisions especially in crucial moments. Not a guy i'm confident you can win with. But in the end that's just my opinion. We'll see if he can finally be a part of a championship team.

[iamworthy]

By next week Dennis Schroeder will be better than Westbrook.

[Ballerhogger]

LBJ - top 5 player
AD - Top 10 player
WB - Top 12 player

And then you have an all time cast of role guys and defenders. Seems pretty stacked to me.

Ok let see your list

[Ballerhogger]

By next week Dennis Schroeder will be better than Westbrook.

Greatest laker ever by week 1

[LakersSquadup]

Those players have done more given the talent they've played with. Westbrook hasn't just come short, his teams have underachieved given the amount of talent he's had to work with.

What is Westbrook supposed to do with Paul George scoring 6 pts in an elimination game? Stop it none of those players have won a ring and made it to the finals without Westbrook so no they haven’t done more with less.

I think it's possible to defend Westbrook if you take everything in isolation. When you look at his entire career, coupled with guys looking to move on from him, that says a lot.

From my eyes and the stats, he's inefficient and makes poor decisions especially in crucial moments. Not a guy i'm confident you can win with. But in the end that's just my opinion. We'll see if he can finally be a part of a championship team.

Lol dude Russ went to the finals as 1b and you’re asking if he could be apart of championship team? Lol just say you hate Westbrook because you have different rules for him than everyone else. Lol at poor decisions let me guess Lukas 4.2 turnovers is ok with you.

[iamworthy]

Honesty can't wait for the first monster dunk at staple center by Westbrook. It's going to be crazy!!!!!

[Neutral 123]

What is Westbrook supposed to do with Paul George scoring 6 pts in an elimination game? Stop it none of those players have won a ring and made it to the finals without Westbrook so no they haven’t done more with less.

I think it's possible to defend Westbrook if you take everything in isolation. When you look at his entire career, coupled with guys looking to move on from him, that says a lot.

From my eyes and the stats, he's inefficient and makes poor decisions especially in crucial moments. Not a guy i'm confident you can win with. But in the end that's just my opinion. We'll see if he can finally be a part of a championship team.

Lol dude Russ went to the finals as 1b and you’re asking if he could be apart of championship team? Lol just say you hate Westbrook because you have different rules for him than everyone else. Lol at poor decisions let me guess Lukas 4.2 turnovers is ok with you.

I don't hate anyone. I don't think Westbrook plays winning basketball. I believe to win with him he'll have to be way more engaged off the ball, shoot less, make better decisions with the ball and play better, more focused defense. That's a tall order. And I've been caught into putting this all on Westbrook by you lol. I also questioned AD's health, and the mix of 3 guys who aren't really known for their perimeter shooting. I just don't think it's the best mix of talent.

I like the Nets big 3 better, but they have question marks as well. Can Kyrie stay mentally and physically well? Is KD vulnerable to injury after the achilles etc. That's why the games need to be played. Nothing is a lock, which is why I didn't agree with the premise of this thread.

[Goomba3666]

I predict there being some REAL clashes between Laker fans (who love their homegrown Westbrook) and Lebron stans (who disguise themselves as Laker fans only to crap on everyone on the roster not named Lebron).

Two polar opposite fanbases.

One dude plays hard every night, is a great teammate, enjoys competition, and the media HATES him. The other guy flops, quits, pouts, is passive aggressive, but the media washes his sack.

Should make for a fun regular season.