Coronavirus/COVID-19, Thread 3 (Omicron & Delta Variants)

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This is good news. 5 yrs old and over. About time.

As a father of a 8 and 5 year old I am still extremely cautious to give my kids this vaccine, even if it's approved.

I'd like to wait longer for some more data first.

(BTW: I'm quite happy to keen to have the vaccine myself just waiting until Australia actually pulls it's finger out and gets enough doses)

[Curmudgeon]

No one complained about the Salk vaccine when it was preventing kids from getting polio. I'm not aware that the Salk vaccine killed a single child. Why are you cautious?

[Tyakack]

I don't normally like talking about this but just wanted to share something I came across that apparently facebook censored, *not surprised*. A father named, "Ernest Ramirez" had his 16 year old son die recently after taking the covid vaccine. He died just a few days later after taking it. The father was heartbroken over it.

I'm sharing this because I know none of you are gonna hear about it from the mainstream media since it goes against their agenda. Nobody is talking about this. Look up the name of the father if you wanna read about it yourself.

[cl2117]

I don't normally like talking about this but just wanted to share something I came across that apparently facebook censored, *not surprised*. A father named, "Ernest Ramirez" had his 16 year old son die recently after taking the covid vaccine. He died just a few days later after taking it. The father was heartbroken over it.

I'm sharing this because I know none of you are gonna hear about it from the mainstream media since it goes against their agenda. Nobody is talking about this. Look up the name of the father if you wanna read about it yourself.

You won't hear about it because the vaccine wasn't the cause of his death. He had an enlarged heart, which is sadly why he died.

Nothing to do with the vaccine. The vaccine is safe and effective. Everyone should take it. Stop spreading misinformation please.

[cheezone]

I don't normally like talking about this but just wanted to share something I came across that apparently facebook censored, *not surprised*. A father named, "Ernest Ramirez" had his 16 year old son die recently after taking the covid vaccine. He died just a few days later after taking it. The father was heartbroken over it.

I'm sharing this because I know none of you are gonna hear about it from the mainstream media since it goes against their agenda. Nobody is talking about this. Look up the name of the father if you wanna read about it yourself.

I understand similar thing happen here at home my cousin died after taking the vaccine literally the next day after his second shot. My aunt tried making a big deal about it but they downplayed it and act like it wasn’t a big deal.

These **** want everyone to get vaccinated but the rules don’t apply to them it’s sickening. Just listen to
Pelosi say she can’t asked members of Congress if their vaccinated or not and can’t mandate members to get vaccinated

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/members-congress-staff-exempt-biden-covid-vaccine-mandate-1627859%3famp=1

[exculpatory]

Take your misinformation & shove it.

The amount of meticulously vetted & peer reviewed information regarding the unquestionable life saving efficacy & safety of the vaccines is OVERWHELMING.

Random reports of bad vaccine outcomes are utterly meaningless. The vast majority of those tragic cases are completely unrelated to the vaccines, and the occasional adverse effect that IS indeed vaccine-related is DWARFED by the protection afforded by the vaccines.

Darwin in action once again. SMMFH.

[cheezone]

Take your ignorant misinformation & shove it.

The amount of meticulously vetted & peer reviewed information regarding the unquestionable life saving efficacy & safety of the vaccines is OVERWHELMING.

Darwin in action once again.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMR98gkqk/

[cheezone]

I can believe so many of my fellow celtics family fan members are such pansies and wusses. Bunch of brain washed sissies you guys will be end up on the wrong side of this whole lmfao bunch of biatches

[exculpatory]

I can believe so many of my fellow celtics family fan members are such pansies and wusses. Bunch of brain washed sissies you guys will be end up on the wrong side of this whole lmfao bunch of biatches

Try writing in grammatical English.

Your prodigious lack of medical insight cannot be remedied.

You do not deserve another response.

[MagicBagley18]

I can believe so many of my fellow celtics family fan members are such pansies and wusses. Bunch of brain washed sissies you guys will be end up on the wrong side of this whole lmfao bunch of biatches

**** off **** stain

[ddb]

I don't normally like talking about this but just wanted to share something I came across that apparently facebook censored, *not surprised*. A father named, "Ernest Ramirez" had his 16 year old son die recently after taking the covid vaccine. He died just a few days later after taking it. The father was heartbroken over it.

I'm sharing this because I know none of you are gonna hear about it from the mainstream media since it goes against their agenda. Nobody is talking about this. Look up the name of the father if you wanna read about it yourself.

You won't hear about it because the vaccine wasn't the cause of his death. He had an enlarged heart, which is sadly why he died.

Nothing to do with the vaccine. The vaccine is safe and effective. Everyone should take it. Stop spreading misinformation please.

it's safe because you're a tenured Dr and you know for sure? Or are you just going with what the CDC and President are saying? Follow the money my friend. Follow the money. That's what it's always about. They don't give 2 sh&ts about your health. I'm sorry that you don't realize that. Vaccinations are a choice. If it's something you want to do, do it. If it's not, don't. Period.

Peak active cases in 2020- 9,034,460. vaccinated 0%
Peak active cases in 2021- 9,243,682. vaccinated "71%"

also from the CDC. Among 378,048 death certs from 2020 listing Covid-19, 5.5% listed Covid-19 without codes for any other conditions. Among 357,133 death certs with at least one other condition, 97% had a co-occuring diagnosis of plausible chain-of-event condition in 2020.

So your point works both ways. So essentially that less then 1% mortality rate from covid-19 is even far less than that.....

What a nation that actually cared about your health would do is test you for antibodies. But they won't....they want cases, and cases, and cases...they want forced vaccination cards, mandates, etc. they want to know everything about your health.

America once stormed the beaches of Normandy.. Now we have a nation paranoid about a less than 1% chance of death from a virus that may or may not be MAN MADE. Talk about forking over your freedoms. It's pathetic. And if you don't realize what is really going on than I'm sorry but you are pathetic to.

We have stadiums of 75k maskless, probably half unvaccinated people....that's fine. but they want to mask our children at school. The list goes on and on. nothing about covid has ever been consistent or scientific. ****, most of it makes zero sense at all.

[Parliament10]

I can believe so many of my fellow celtics family fan members are such pansies and wusses. Bunch of brain washed sissies you guys will be end up on the wrong side of this whole lmfao bunch of biatches

Tone it down there.
Be an Anti-vaxxer if you want.

Leave the name calling out of it.

~ Parl

[Parliament10]

From the Worldometer (Last updated: September 13, 2021, 18:28 GMT)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Worldwide Figures:

Coronavirus Cases:
225,741,125

Deaths:
4,648,489

United States:

Coronavirus Cases:
41,867,022

Deaths:
678,125

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 375 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through September 7, 2021. During this time, VAERS received ]7,439 reports of death (0.0020%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.

If you have Facts, aka Proof, then post them.
If you have Opinions, then that's what they are.

Don't confuse the two.

[Bad-Thoma]

I can believe so many of my fellow celtics family fan members are such pansies and wusses. Bunch of brain washed sissies you guys will be end up on the wrong side of this whole lmfao bunch of biatches

This is the single stupidest thing I've ever read on this board and I've been here for 15 years. That basically makes you the Michael Jordan of stupidity, congratulations.

[1st banana]

Lol we know we know ivermectin is this countries saving grace and vaccines are poisonous even tho you probably have about 5 in your body already.

**** trash heaps.

[cl2117]

I don't normally like talking about this but just wanted to share something I came across that apparently facebook censored, *not surprised*. A father named, "Ernest Ramirez" had his 16 year old son die recently after taking the covid vaccine. He died just a few days later after taking it. The father was heartbroken over it.

I'm sharing this because I know none of you are gonna hear about it from the mainstream media since it goes against their agenda. Nobody is talking about this. Look up the name of the father if you wanna read about it yourself.

You won't hear about it because the vaccine wasn't the cause of his death. He had an enlarged heart, which is sadly why he died.

Nothing to do with the vaccine. The vaccine is safe and effective. Everyone should take it. Stop spreading misinformation please.

it's safe because you're a tenured Dr and you know for sure? Or are you just going with what the CDC and President are saying? Follow the money my friend. Follow the money. That's what it's always about. They don't give 2 sh&ts about your health. I'm sorry that you don't realize that. Vaccinations are a choice. If it's something you want to do, do it. If it's not, don't. Period.

Peak active cases in 2020- 9,034,460. vaccinated 0%
Peak active cases in 2021- 9,243,682. vaccinated "71%"

also from the CDC. Among 378,048 death certs from 2020 listing Covid-19, 5.5% listed Covid-19 without codes for any other conditions. Among 357,133 death certs with at least one other condition, 97% had a co-occuring diagnosis of plausible chain-of-event condition in 2020.

So your point works both ways. So essentially that less then 1% mortality rate from covid-19 is even far less than that.....

What a nation that actually cared about your health would do is test you for antibodies. But they won't....they want cases, and cases, and cases...they want forced vaccination cards, mandates, etc. they want to know everything about your health.

America once stormed the beaches of Normandy.. Now we have a nation paranoid about a less than 1% chance of death from a virus that may or may not be MAN MADE. Talk about forking over your freedoms. It's pathetic. And if you don't realize what is really going on than I'm sorry but you are pathetic to.

We have stadiums of 75k maskless, probably half unvaccinated people....that's fine. but they want to mask our children at school. The list goes on and on. nothing about covid has ever been consistent or scientific. ****, most of it makes zero sense at all.

Just stop. Set up an appointment with your local physician and please speak with them about the dangers of COVID and the efficacy of this vaccine. This is not a conspiracy theory. This is a real virus, killing real people and that won't go away until people take it seriously (if ever).

I genuinely plead with you to speak with a medical professional and allow them to answer your questions/concerns. We are all in this together, some of us have already lost loved ones, we can't continue to spread misinformation and allow innocent people to needlessly die.

[exculpatory]

Unfortunately, there are literally tens of millions of hopeless morons, conspiracy theorists etc in our country.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2784015

Outstanding article regarding safety of the vaccines just published in the prestigious JAMA.

Results A total of 11 845 128 doses of mRNA vaccines (57% BNT162b2; 6 175 813 first doses and 5 669 315 second doses) were administered to 6.2 million individuals (mean age, 49 years; 54% female individuals). The incidence of events per 1 000 000 person-years during the risk vs comparison intervals for ischemic stroke was 1612 vs 1781 (RR, 0.97; 95% CI, 0.87-1.08); for appendicitis, 1179 vs 1345 (RR, 0.82; 95% CI, 0.73-0.93); and for acute myocardial infarction, 935 vs 1030 (RR, 1.02; 95% CI, 0.89-1.18). No vaccine-outcome association met the prespecified requirement for a signal. Incidence of confirmed anaphylaxis was 4.8 (95% CI, 3.2-6.9) per million doses of BNT162b2 and 5.1 (95% CI, 3.3-7.6) per million doses of mRNA-1273.

[ddb]

You won't hear about it because the vaccine wasn't the cause of his death. He had an enlarged heart, which is sadly why he died.

Nothing to do with the vaccine. The vaccine is safe and effective. Everyone should take it. Stop spreading misinformation please.

it's safe because you're a tenured Dr and you know for sure? Or are you just going with what the CDC and President are saying? Follow the money my friend. Follow the money. That's what it's always about. They don't give 2 sh&ts about your health. I'm sorry that you don't realize that. Vaccinations are a choice. If it's something you want to do, do it. If it's not, don't. Period.

Peak active cases in 2020- 9,034,460. vaccinated 0%
Peak active cases in 2021- 9,243,682. vaccinated "71%"

also from the CDC. Among 378,048 death certs from 2020 listing Covid-19, 5.5% listed Covid-19 without codes for any other conditions. Among 357,133 death certs with at least one other condition, 97% had a co-occuring diagnosis of plausible chain-of-event condition in 2020.

So your point works both ways. So essentially that less then 1% mortality rate from covid-19 is even far less than that.....

What a nation that actually cared about your health would do is test you for antibodies. But they won't....they want cases, and cases, and cases...they want forced vaccination cards, mandates, etc. they want to know everything about your health.

America once stormed the beaches of Normandy.. Now we have a nation paranoid about a less than 1% chance of death from a virus that may or may not be MAN MADE. Talk about forking over your freedoms. It's pathetic. And if you don't realize what is really going on than I'm sorry but you are pathetic to.

We have stadiums of 75k maskless, probably half unvaccinated people....that's fine. but they want to mask our children at school. The list goes on and on. nothing about covid has ever been consistent or scientific. ****, most of it makes zero sense at all.

Just stop. Set up an appointment with your local physician and please speak with them about the dangers of COVID and the efficacy of this vaccine. This is not a conspiracy theory. This is a real virus, killing real people and that won't go away until people take it seriously (if ever).

I genuinely plead with you to speak with a medical professional and allow them to answer your questions/concerns. We are all in this together, some of us have already lost loved ones, we can't continue to spread misinformation and allow innocent people to needlessly die.

No Thank you. I have antibodies/natural immunity. Since March 2020 I have traveled to Hawaii, DC, OKC, Austin, Houston, Mobile, Key West, Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Hoboken, MA, CT, and most recently Vegas. I have lived mask free except for on a plane, or for 2 seconds walking into a restaurant in NJ/MA/CT/Vegas for the optics of it all. I refuse to live in fear and there's nothing selfish about that. If Vaccines work so well, you are protected. And since we now know this vaccine helps in no way with transmission, at least it helps you fight off serious illness, correct? Either way, I wish you the best. You're right, this isn't going away just like the Flu & Common cold will never go away.....well, I take that back....the flu has seemingly gone away. But anyway, I digress. GO Celtics!

[ddb]

Unfortunately, there are literally tens of millions of hopeless morons, conspiracy theorists etc in our country.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2784015

Outstanding article regarding safety of the vaccines just published in the prestigious JAMA.

WOW....such a lazy analysis of human beings that disagree with you. I could say the same thing about you, but I wouldn't because I'm not an ****. By the way, out of the covid unvaccinated population, one of the leading demographics are medical professionals, people with MBA's, and then African Americans.

[cl2117]

No Thank you. I have antibodies/natural immunity. Since March 2020 I have traveled to Hawaii, DC, OKC, Austin, Houston, Mobile, Key West, Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Hoboken, MA, CT, and most recently Vegas. I have lived mask free except for on a plane, or for 2 seconds walking into a restaurant in NJ/MA/CT/Vegas for the optics of it all. I refuse to live in fear and there's nothing selfish about that. If Vaccines work so well, you are protected. And since we now know this vaccine helps in no way with transmission, at least it helps you fight off serious illness, correct? Either way, I wish you the best. You're right, this isn't going away just like the Flu & Common cold will never go away.....well, I take that back....the flu has seemingly gone away. But anyway, I digress. GO Celtics!

Please reconsider this for the health of everyone you interact with/love.

Vaccines work well, but work better when more people have them. I am low risk, but I care about people who can't get the vaccine for medical reasons, for people who can get the vaccine but are still high risk etc. You not being vaccinated risks those people's health unfortunately. And the vaccine reduces transmission because it results in less people getting infected in the first place. Additionally vaccines do help fight off serious illness, which means it reduces your "viral load" and makes it less likely to transmit.

The flu has "gone away" because of all the measures in place to reduce COVID. Which should show you a) how scary COVID is that it still persists and b) how important it is to get vaccinated.

Please though, speak with a medical professional about this. Not on one the internet, just call your primary care physician and discuss it with them. Go through your concerns and questions. There is nothing bad that can come from that.

You referenced how "America once stormed the beaches of Normandy" as an example of American greatness, but surely you must realize how laughable it is to invoke an event where so many Americans made the ultimate sacrifice in speaking about our current situation where people won't make even the smallest of sacrifices (masks/vaccines) to save lives.

COVID has killed exponentially more Americans than D-Day. Take it as your patriotic duty to do something about it and get vaccinated. Please speak with your doctor.