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Who Will Makeup the 2021/22, 15 Man Roster?

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Re: Who Will Makeup the 2021/22, 15 Man Roster? 

Post#41 » by Prokorov » Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:49 pm

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Prokorov wrote:Some interesting roster related tid-bits from jake fisher (the insider who wrote the book on the nets) on various podcasts, including with the athletic:

1) Nets tried to get Sekou last year in the 3-team trade than landed them bruce brown and shamet. so he wasnt just filler in the DJ trade, nets had interest. so that may lead some to think his spot on this team is a bit more solid. He does say there were concerns about his true age.

2) Nets vision of a center is one who shots. says they viewed efforts to make allen/claxton a shooter "didnt work as well as they had liked". Blake seems cemented at center to start the year. LMA will have a big role. Apparently DJ leaving was a big part of millsap agreeing to sign here. He may expect some minutes as a stretch 5 as jeff green played last year alot. Nets view sharpe as having potential to shoot at the 5-spot.

3) Bembry is a 'jersey guy' who went to the same high school as kyrie. the 2 are apperantly tight and both kyrie and the team pushed to bring him in. Team felt they needed and upgrade to make james and insurance on bruce brown. the Carter/Bembry due was brought in for that purpose.

The more i read/listen and from some of the takes from fans around the league, the more I think its feasible (not likely and not something id prefer) That Claxton may be traded. And that its basically down to Claxton/Bembry/Sekou with smoke on both sides to whether they are kept or sent packing:

Sekou Marks targeted him in both the draft and trade with pistons last season. We have seen when marks wants a guy, he can be persistent (See Crabbe, Tyler Johnson...). On the flip side, it was mentioned there are concerns of his age. Sekou is supposedly in Brooklyn, working with the team.

Deandre Bembry Played with Kyrie in HS < Kyrie I guess may have influenced it (similar to Garrett Temple singning) and marks like his toughness and viewed that as a need. On the flip side, its mentioned that Carter/Bembry may have been "bruce brown insurance" and with Brown here and Bembry not 100% fully guaranteed, maybe bembry doesnt make the cut? Bembry did a media interview with the nets and was officially announced. He has been working at the teams practice facility.

Nic Claxton The Nets added depth at center with LMA. They also replaced Green with the pair of Milsap and Johnson. The Nets traded for a pick to draft Day'ron sharpe. In total, the nets added 2 centers and 2 PFs who can play center. Above it was referenced that the nets view their "center as someone who can shoot". We saw last year that Claxton role diminished with LMA here (reduced minutes when just LMA playes, and reduced to DNP with Blake/LMA/KD were all active).

On top of that Claxton is due a 4/50 extension, or becomes an RFA. We know the Nets have Tsai and deep pockets, but we also know the nets will extend the big 3 and let dinwiddie walk due to tax/payroll concerns long term. DJ was also a salary dump.

The Nets trading claxton could accomplish:
-Cost/tax savings
-Help replenish missing draft picks over the next 6 seasons
-Allow for more playing time for sharpe, who the nets see potential with as far as shooting the ball
-Remove a logjam at center that includes Blake/LMA/Sharpe as well as potentially Johnson and Milsap
-Grant the nets another TPE (assuming claxton is dealt into capspace for pick(s)

I really like Sekou, but i hope he gets the axe. because i think Bembry helps our title chances this and next year and claxton's D is legit and something we dont have much of.


I hate the idea of losing Claxton but if the Nets are hell bent on playing shooting 5s then there is no reason to keep him.

My concern is, where do we send him and for what return? Any team that can absorb his small salary, which is most likely a lottery team isn't going to give us a valuable 1st. Maybe OKC would have an interest?

I really think the obsession with stretch 5 basketball is stupid. We're going to ship out a good defensive big that can switch on everything in order to play past their prime bigs that don't add much defensively (outside of Blake, who was solid) to keep a prospect whose has shown nothing in two seasons?


To be clear, im not saying its something i want or something thats probable. just piecing together whats being said by multiple outlets and reading between the lines. it may not be probable, but its possible, and there is some logic to it.

As far as landing spot, Claxton makes 1.7M. Pretty much every NBA team can send back 1-2 minimum non guaranteed contract who the nets could just release. or just take back 1.3M in salary and cut and stretch that over several years (similar to okafor). Id think alot of teams would trade a future first for claxton. Maybe the nets even take back some bad salary if its just for 1 year to get better pick compensation. its really next years number that hurts the nets
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Re: Who Will Makeup the 2021/22, 15 Man Roster? 

Post#42 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:52 pm

Off topic but for those of you that play NBA 2K, here are the Nets ratings for this year:

Kevin Durant — 96
James Harden — 94
Kyrie Irving — 91
LaMarcus Aldridge — 79
Joe Harris — 79
Paul Millsap— 78
Blake Griffin — 78
Bruce Brown — 77
Patty Mills — 77
Nic Claxton — 77
Jevon Carter — 73
James Johnson - 73
DeAndre’ Bembry - 72
Cameron Thomas - 71
Day’Ron Sharpe - 71
Sekou Doumbouya - 71
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Re: Who Will Makeup the 2021/22, 15 Man Roster? 

Post#43 » by TheNetsFan » Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:01 pm

I believe Marks would trade Carter, Bembry, Doumbaya or Claxton for any future asset. That would also be the order of sought value from least (fake 2nd) to most (projected high 2nd). As much as we like the thought of the defensive potential they bring, the truth is that at least the guards will be racking up DNPs. Carter & Bembry are not seeing time at the expense of Harden/Kyrie/Mills/Harris & possibly Thomas. Even on back to backs, at least one of Kyrie/Harden will likely be playing & Harden, Mills & Harris have historically been very durable. Given Carter's salary & 2 year commitment, he'd likely be the ideal one to be moved, but I doubt Marks will trade a 2nd to dump him. I could see him traded for a cheaper or expiring contract that would be subsequently waived.

The big man rotation is tougher to assess. Is Aldridge really expected to be a significant contributor after retiring due to a heart scare, or are we doing him a solid & expecting him to be a part time player? If we're going to see meaningful minutes for all of the Old (bigs) 3 plus Claxton, that means we're playing bigger and slower regularly, KD is primarily at the 3, and Harris and Brown are coming off the bench. I don't like that idea. I expect Blake to be the best of the Old 3, but that may not translate to starting. If we balance athleticism, it's probably Aldridge with Claxton & Griffin with Millsap.

Money matters. Trading Claxton would provide the best asset, and like Allen, give him the opportunity to get paid. If there's no way we can afford to retain him next year, getting a future asset for him would be wise. We can't assume that, like Brown, he'll have a below expectation market. Same goes for Doumbaya (assuming we don't want to be on the hook for $5.5mil next year). I don't want to trade Claxton, but if his role will be limited & we're not able to keep him, we should get what we can.
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Re: Who Will Makeup the 2021/22, 15 Man Roster? 

Post#44 » by Prokorov » Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:50 am

MrDollarBills wrote:Off topic but for those of you that play NBA 2K, here are the Nets ratings for this year:

Kevin Durant — 96
James Harden — 94
Kyrie Irving — 91
LaMarcus Aldridge — 79
Joe Harris — 79
Paul Millsap— 78
Blake Griffin — 78
Bruce Brown — 77
Patty Mills — 77
Nic Claxton — 77
Jevon Carter — 73
James Johnson - 73
DeAndre’ Bembry - 72
Cameron Thomas - 71
Day’Ron Sharpe - 71
Sekou Doumbouya - 71


2K needs to put some respect on Patty Mills name
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Re: Who Will Makeup the 2021/22, 15 Man Roster? 

Post#45 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:38 am

Prokorov wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Off topic but for those of you that play NBA 2K, here are the Nets ratings for this year:

Kevin Durant — 96
James Harden — 94
Kyrie Irving — 91
LaMarcus Aldridge — 79
Joe Harris — 79
Paul Millsap— 78
Blake Griffin — 78
Bruce Brown — 77
Patty Mills — 77
Nic Claxton — 77
Jevon Carter — 73
James Johnson - 73
DeAndre’ Bembry - 72
Cameron Thomas - 71
Day’Ron Sharpe - 71
Sekou Doumbouya - 71


2K needs to put some respect on Patty Mills name


Yeah there is no way he should be rated the same as Bruce and Nic.
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