Malachi Flynn

[dkb9696]

I will come off as a jerk I imagine, but I just do not see this kid being much of anything in the NBA. I understand he is coming off his first season and could and will improve, but I would much rather have the kid in Boston who at least has shown he can play. I like that Flynn competes, but he can not hit a shot to save his life.

[HumbleRen]

I disagree, he has the skills and ball IQ to be a very good back up PG in this league.

PG’s in their rookie year notoriously have a hard time adjusting to the pace and physicality of the league. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised with him this year, especially him playing alongside our budding bench mob 2.0.

He probably won’t ever be our main PG but that’s okay, we aren’t asking him to be one.

[OAKLEY_2]

I like that Flynn competes, but he can not hit a shot to save his life.

[dkb9696]

I disagree, he has the skills and ball IQ to be a very good back up PG in this league.

PG’s in their rookie year notoriously have a hard time adjusting to the pace and physicality of the league. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised with him this year, especially him playing alongside our budding bench mob 2.0.

He probably won’t ever be our main PG but that’s okay, we aren’t asking him to be one.

I think getting a bit of bulk is great. I am worried that he shoots something like 33 percent from the field.

[HumbleRen]

I disagree, he has the skills and ball IQ to be a very good back up PG in this league.

PG’s in their rookie year notoriously have a hard time adjusting to the pace and physicality of the league. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised with him this year, especially him playing alongside our budding bench mob 2.0.

He probably won’t ever be our main PG but that’s okay, we aren’t asking him to be one.

I think getting a bit of bulk is great. I am worried that he shoots something like 33 percent from the field.

I wouldn’t worry too much, he’s got a solid form and has always been a career 80% + shooter from the FT line and 36-38% from the 3.

Just needs more reps and confidence.

[dkb9696]

I disagree, he has the skills and ball IQ to be a very good back up PG in this league.

PG’s in their rookie year notoriously have a hard time adjusting to the pace and physicality of the league. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised with him this year, especially him playing alongside our budding bench mob 2.0.

He probably won’t ever be our main PG but that’s okay, we aren’t asking him to be one.

I think getting a bit of bulk is great. I am worried that he shoots something like 33 percent from the field.

I wouldn’t worry too much, he’s got a solid form and has always been a career 80% + shooter from the FT line and 36-38% from the 3.

Just needs more reps and confidence.

I would disagree and think his jimmy is messed up and can be improved

[Los_29]

People said the same thing about Norm, FVV, Pascal and OG.

Do I think Flynn is going to be a star? No, I don't. But I do think he can be a solid player in this league.

Also, Pritchard was drafted before Flynn. And he hasn't really shown he can play moreso than Flynn. They are different players.

[dkb9696]

People said the same thing about Norm, FVV, Pascal and OG.

Do I think Flynn is going to be a star? No, I don't. But I do think he can be a solid player in this league.

Also, Pritchard was drafted before Flynn. And he hasn't really shown he can play moreso than Flynn. They are different players.

I get that the kid from Boston was drafted before Flynn. The fact of the matter is though that the kid in the Celtics far out played Flynn.

[anj]

I will come off as a jerk I imagine, but I just do not see this kid being much of anything in the NBA. I understand he is coming off his first season and could and will improve, but I would much rather have the kid in Boston who at least has shown he can play. I like that Flynn competes, but he can not hit a shot to save his life.

[Mikistan]

I will come off as a jerk I imagine, but I just do not see this kid being much of anything in the NBA. I understand he is coming off his first season and could and will improve, but I would much rather have the kid in Boston who at least has shown he can play. I like that Flynn competes, but he can not hit a shot to save his life.

claiming that Flynn cannot shoot is a joke

what team are these guys even watching?

[dkb9696]

I will come off as a jerk I imagine, but I just do not see this kid being much of anything in the NBA. I understand he is coming off his first season and could and will improve, but I would much rather have the kid in Boston who at least has shown he can play. I like that Flynn competes, but he can not hit a shot to save his life.

Fait enough. I am just down on the kid as a prospect is all.

[Indeed]

I will come off as a jerk I imagine, but I just do not see this kid being much of anything in the NBA. I understand he is coming off his first season and could and will improve, but I would much rather have the kid in Boston who at least has shown he can play. I like that Flynn competes, but he can not hit a shot to save his life.

claiming that Flynn cannot shoot is a joke

what team are these guys even watching?

What team have you been watching to say he can make those jump shots?
Or if you don't watch the game, perhaps you can look at the stats:
https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1630201/shooting/

His majority of shots are jumpshots, and he is only making 30%.
My understanding is that he cannot fight to his place for the shot. Unlike VanVleet who has elite strength and can fight off to his spot. So how much strength can he add? Being a 4th year college player and promote as NBA ready player, there isn't much potential.

And thanks OP for bringing your opinion, which is also a concern for me.

[Danny1616]

I will come off as a jerk I imagine, but I just do not see this kid being much of anything in the NBA. I understand he is coming off his first season and could and will improve, but I would much rather have the kid in Boston who at least has shown he can play. I like that Flynn competes, but he can not hit a shot to save his life.

Didn't he win rookie of the month in March?

Also shooting 32% from 3 as a rookie with limited and inconsistent playing time is not terrible by any stretch.

With consistent minutes I expect Flynn to shoot 35-36% from 3 this year.

That being said, I don't see Flynn as a starter any time soon, but he could become a very good back up point guard (which would be a steal for a #29 overall pick).

[Mikistan]

claiming that Flynn cannot shoot is a joke

what team are these guys even watching?

What team have you been watching to say he can make those jump shots?
Or if you don't watch the game, perhaps you can look at the stats:
https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1630201/shooting/

His majority of shots are jumpshots, and he is only making 30%.
My understanding is that he cannot fight to his place for the shot. Unlike VanVleet who has elite strength and can fight off to his spot. So how much strength can he add? Being a 4th year NBA ready player, there isn't much potential.

And thanks OP for bringing your opinion, which is also a concern for me.

Wait are you including his early season shooting stats in his average?

look at his splits, his 16f-3pt range is bad, so he can just cut that out of his game like the rest of the league has and its fine.
His 3pt percentage is low because he shoots off the dribble and he is a rookie, hes not just a catch and shoot guy

look at his shot chart - he gives us something our other players don't and can't do - off the dribble shots from abover the free throw line break. He's not some chump that sits in a corner and waits.



https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/flynnma01/shooting/2021
look at the monthly splits and volume

In april and May he shots .408 and .316 from 3pt oon the most volume hes had in his NBA career - shooters need rhythm and attempts and he didnt get that rhythm until late in the season - he literally only had 2 months where he shot more than 40 shots the entire month...

Malachi shot 341 total shots the entire year
Payton Pritchard shot 418 shots to compare - thats a lot of shots difference comparing we know Malachi didnt get burn early.


Malachi is an over 80% free throw shooter and was a career 36% college shooter from 3pt.

[Indeed]

I will come off as a jerk I imagine, but I just do not see this kid being much of anything in the NBA. I understand he is coming off his first season and could and will improve, but I would much rather have the kid in Boston who at least has shown he can play. I like that Flynn competes, but he can not hit a shot to save his life.

Didn't he win rookie of the month in March?

Also shooting 32% from 3 as a rookie with limited and inconsistent playing time is not terrible by any stretch.

With consistent minutes I expect Flynn to shoot 35-36% from 3 this year.

That being said, I don't see Flynn as a starter any time soon, but he could become a very good back up point guard (which would be a steal for a #29 overall pick).

Those are mainly spot up 3, so is there a reason you don't want a 3&D at the size of SF?

Are we trying to find someone who can create off the dribble and for others at the wing, which is much harder than someone at the guard spot?

The reason I have concern is that he is not bringing enough to those at his size and position.

[Blazing_royale]

He projects to be D.J Augustin, solid off the bench PG.

[YogurtProducer]

claiming that Flynn cannot shoot is a joke

what team are these guys even watching?

What team have you been watching to say he can make those jump shots?
Or if you don't watch the game, perhaps you can look at the stats:
https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1630201/shooting/

His majority of shots are jumpshots, and he is only making 30%.
My understanding is that he cannot fight to his place for the shot. Unlike VanVleet who has elite strength and can fight off to his spot. So how much strength can he add? Being a 4th year college player and promote as NBA ready player, there isn't much potential.

And thanks OP for bringing your opinion, which is also a concern for me.

FVV and elite strength are not two terms I ever thought I’d hear together.

Besides, Flynn as a rook greatly outplayed FVV as a rookie

[Indeed]

claiming that Flynn cannot shoot is a joke

what team are these guys even watching?

What team have you been watching to say he can make those jump shots?
Or if you don't watch the game, perhaps you can look at the stats:
https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1630201/shooting/

His majority of shots are jumpshots, and he is only making 30%.
My understanding is that he cannot fight to his place for the shot. Unlike VanVleet who has elite strength and can fight off to his spot. So how much strength can he add? Being a 4th year NBA ready player, there isn't much potential.

And thanks OP for bringing your opinion, which is also a concern for me.

Wait are you including his early season shooting stats in his average?

look at his splits, his 16f-3pt range is bad, so he can just cut that out of his game like the rest of the league has and its fine.
His 3pt percentage is low because he shoots off the dribble and he is a rookie, hes not just a catch and shoot guy

look at his shot chart - he gives us something our other players don't and can't do - off the dribble shots from abover the free throw line break. He's not some chump that sits in a corner and waits.



https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/flynnma01/shooting/2021
look at the monthly splits and volume

In april and May he shots .408 and .316 from 3pt oon the most volume hes had in his NBA career - shooters need rhythm and attempts and he didnt get that rhythm until late in the season - he literally only had 2 months where he shot more than 40 shots the entire month...

Malachi shot 341 total shots the entire year
Payton Pritchard shot 418 shots to compare - thats a lot of shots difference comparing we know Malachi didnt get burn early.


Malachi is an over 80% free throw shooter and was a career 36% college shooter from 3pt.

Perhaps you didn't click on the link I provided, which can filter by last 15 games, post-all-star, months, etc.
This is post all-star (and similar to the last 15 games), where he shoots 35% from 3s jumpshot (non-pullup).
https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1630201/shooting/?Season=2020-21&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&SeasonSegment=Post%20All-Star

Sure, he gave us something in pull up, where he shoots 30%. For 3s, that is alright, but for 2FG, that is very low. And to avoid inefficient 2FG, we hope we can get to the rim, but his attempt at rim isn't impressive.

If you want to look at the in depth, the above link allows you to watch the attempts in video.

[Los_29]

People said the same thing about Norm, FVV, Pascal and OG.

Do I think Flynn is going to be a star? No, I don't. But I do think he can be a solid player in this league.

Also, Pritchard was drafted before Flynn. And he hasn't really shown he can play moreso than Flynn. They are different players.

I get that the kid from Boston was drafted before Flynn. The fact of the matter is though that the kid in the Celtics far out played Flynn.

I wouldn't say far outplayed. Depends on what you're looking at.

And who really cares who outplayed who in year 1. Tyreke Evans won the Rookie of the Year in a class that featured Steph Curry, James Harden, Blake Griffin, Jrue Holiday and Demar Derozan. There are a lot of things that Flynn does better than Pritchard and you also need to take into consideration Pritchard had the opportunity to play with guys like Tatum, Brown and Kemba while Flynn was playing predominantly with bench players while guys like FVV, Lowry, Siakam and OG sat out.

And when both were at their best, Flynn was better than Pritchard.

[Psubs]

He projects to be D.J Augustin, solid off the bench PG.

With better defense and outside shooting. Flynn this year should be almost as good as Augustin's best years.