Malachi Flynn

Indeed · Post #21 » by **Indeed** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:34 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
Indeed wrote:
Mikistan wrote:
claiming that Flynn cannot shoot is a joke

what team are these guys even watching?

What team have you been watching to say he can make those jump shots?
Or if you don't watch the game, perhaps you can look at the stats:
https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1630201/shooting/

His majority of shots are jumpshots, and he is only making 30%.
My understanding is that he cannot fight to his place for the shot. Unlike VanVleet who has elite strength and can fight off to his spot. So how much strength can he add? Being a 4th year college player and promote as NBA ready player, there isn't much potential.

And thanks OP for bringing your opinion, which is also a concern for me.

FVV and elite strength are not two terms I ever thought I’d hear together.

Besides, Flynn as a rook greatly outplayed FVV as a rookie

I posted a video, VanVleet was capable of getting to the rim in his rookie. I don't see how you can make that cliam in Flynn is better than VanVleet in his rookie. Video evidence wise, that is not the case.

DelAbbot · Post #22 » by **DelAbbot** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:46 pm

I remember when Flynn was drafted, everyone was hyped we got the next FVV with a midrange game. One year later, his prospect shine has worn off, people worry a 2nd year player cannot shot well?

psst:

Spoiler:

Blazing_royale · Post #23 » by **Blazing_royale** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:47 pm

Psubs wrote:
Blazing_royale wrote:He projects to be D.J Augustin, solid off the bench PG.

With better defense and outside shooting. Flynn this year should be almost as good as Augustin's best years.

better defense is still pretty bad lol Flynn looks small af out there and will be targeted on offence.

prelude00 · Post #24 » by **prelude00** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:57 pm

Too much of a deep dive for a 29th pick lol.

We need the season to start asap

Sent from my SM-G965W using Tapatalk

gbball · Post #25 » by **gbball** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:08 pm

What's with all these negative Flynn threads out of the blue?

I do agree with the OP that his shooting isn't as good as I expected, but I think that's improvable and I expect him to keep getting better with more reps. Inconsistent minutes, not having a clear role, and being a rookie were all factors last year.

Comparing him to Pritchard is understandable, but they're different players. Pritchard to me looks a lot more like FVV as a comp and he's a really good set shooter. When he has time and space he can shoot for good percentages from distance. We had posters last year complaining that we didn't take Maledon, who might end up being good at some point, but when Flynn got minutes he showed that he's clearly the better prospect.

Flynn, as mentioned is more of a rhythm player, and he seems to play a lot better when he has the ball in his hands and get some shots up to find his range. In the NBA, he'll have to learn to find that accuracy sooner. But one thing I noticed is that when he finds his shot in a game, he can get unconscious and hit from anywhere.

If he can get consistent minutes this year he'll start breaking out. I strongly believe he is at least a starting level pg at some point in his career. The key for him is his efficiency. If he can shoot 40-45% or more from midrange and 35%+ from 3 he'll be a potent weapon for us because he can get those shots fairly easily. I can't imagine that he'll never get to that point in his career, but time will tell. Add to that his pick and roll play and passing ability and he can be a very effective player. His shooting is the key though. This year will be a good indication, and next year we should know what kind of player he can become.

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #26 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:19 pm

dude is a late first round pick. undersized. don't expect the world.

but to say he won't amount to anything I have to question your ability to gauge talent overall.

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #27 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:20 pm

gbball wrote:What's with all these negative Flynn threads out of the blue?

I do agree with the OP that his shooting isn't as good as I expected, but I think that's improvable and I expect him to keep getting better with more reps. Inconsistent minutes, not having a clear role, and being a rookie were all factors last year.

Comparing him to Pritchard is understandable, but they're different players. Pritchard to me looks a lot more like FVV as a comp and he's a really good set shooter. When he has time and space he can shoot for good percentages from distance. We had posters last year complaining that we didn't take Maledon, who might end up being good at some point, but when Flynn got minutes he showed that he's clearly the better prospect.

Flynn, as mentioned is more of a rhythm player, and he seems to play a lot better when he has the ball in his hands and get some shots up to find his range. In the NBA, he'll have to learn to find that accuracy sooner. But one thing I noticed is that when he finds his shot in a game, he can get unconscious and hit from anywhere.

If he can get consistent minutes this year he'll start breaking out. I strongly believe he is at least a starting level pg at some point in his career. The key for him is his efficiency. If he can shoot 40-45% or more from midrange and 35%+ from 3 he'll be a potent weapon for us because he can get those shots fairly easily. I can't imagine that he'll never get to that point in his career, but time will tell. Add to that his pick and roll play and passing ability and he can be a very effective player. His shooting is the key though. This year will be a good indication, and next year we should know what kind of player he can become.

because people are bored and they have to tell us how they feel.

PoundTown · Post #28 » by **PoundTown** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:28 pm

He looks to me like an elite backup at the very least down the line. He has a lot going for him in terms of defense, IQ, handles, can score at all levels, good vision, etc. Personally, I think he turns into a player that would be in the 8 man rotation of any team in the league and probably a starter eventually, in my opinion, but we will see. The skill set is already there and has more potential than FVV. Just like in his younger years in college, he needed last year to get comfortable. The kid will make shots. I've been high on him since we drafted him, and never waivered. It's too early for me or OP to be considered right or wrong on our projections, but imagine saying this about Steve Nash after rookie year...

KL78192020 · Post #29 » by **KL78192020** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:41 pm

dkb9696 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:People said the same thing about Norm, FVV, Pascal and OG.

Do I think Flynn is going to be a star? No, I don't. But I do think he can be a solid player in this league.

Also, Pritchard was drafted before Flynn. And he hasn't really shown he can play moreso than Flynn. They are different players.

I get that the kid from Boston was drafted before Flynn. The fact of the matter is though that the kid in the Celtics far out played Flynn.

Its really not fair to judge most rookies from last year with covid, no summer league, short training camp. Give it some time. Dude barely played. Just like most Raptors fans were **** on Wiseman in a potential Siakam trade, you're doing the same to Flynn.

tecumseh18 · Post #30 » by **tecumseh18** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:02 pm

anj wrote:
dkb9696 wrote:I will come off as a jerk I imagine, but I just do not see this kid being much of anything in the NBA. I understand he is coming off his first season and could and will improve, but I would much rather have the kid in Boston who at least has shown he can play. I like that Flynn competes, but he can not hit a shot to save his life.

Is that Michaela Coel? She's amazing. In any case, I can tell you are a connoisseur of fine British TV.

Oh, and this is one of the most ill-conceived threads I've ever seen on this board. I have yet to see a statement by the OP in it that makes any sense whatsoever.

Backcountry · Post #31 » by **Backcountry** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:17 pm

Just going on what I watched in SL, Flynn looks much more confident and capable this season than last. Good decision-making, good shot selection, good passing and good D. Now I realize that's only a 4-game sample and against SL players, but I think he far outstrips his performance and usage this season compared to last.

Either that or he becomes part of a trade. I'm no fortune-teller...

navyblue · Post #32 » by **navyblue** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:21 pm

dkb9696 wrote:I will come off as a jerk I imagine, but I just do not see this kid being much of anything in the NBA. I understand he is coming off his first season and could and will improve, but I would much rather have the kid in Boston who at least has shown he can play. I like that Flynn competes, but he can not hit a shot to save his life.

You want the kid in boston who was drafted ahead of him? why not also say you wanted lonzo ball as well.

NeoDragonKnight · Post #33 » by **NeoDragonKnight** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:22 pm

Players improve their shot all the time, unless your name is Ben Simmons. I remember when Calderon couldn't shoot, and he then became an extremely efficient shooter. He started at 19% from 3, and 42% to the field, and by year 2, he got his 3 pt shot up to the 30s, and fg% up to 52%, and by year 3, he was a 40% 3pt shooter. Give the kid at least a chance improvement takes time.

DreamTeam09 · Post #34 » by **DreamTeam09** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:23 pm

dkb9696 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:People said the same thing about Norm, FVV, Pascal and OG.

Do I think Flynn is going to be a star? No, I don't. But I do think he can be a solid player in this league.

Also, Pritchard was drafted before Flynn. And he hasn't really shown he can play moreso than Flynn. They are different players.

I get that the kid from Boston was drafted before Flynn. The fact of the matter is though that the kid in the Celtics far out played Flynn.

Can you atleast take a second out of your day that you decided to bash a Raptor and compare hum to a Celtic and noteven know the players name you are talking about ??

Pritchard, Nesmith ??

"Flynn sucks because I think that Celtics kid is better" wtf are we suppose to do with that information

aminiaturebuddha · Post #35 » by **aminiaturebuddha** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:30 pm

I'm not sure what Pritchard has to do with this.

I like Lebron James better than Chris Boucher and think that as a PF he greatly outplayed him last year.

See? I can play the "let's use the example of player we didn't have an opportunity to get to put down one of our players" game too!

Don't see what the point of this is.

Syd-TK3 · Post #36 » by **Syd-TK3** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:44 pm

Figured we woulda grown past making crazy judgments on a player after 1 rookie season.

Post #37 » by **Reeko** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:58 pm

Players you can say that you would have preferred over Flynn: Desmond Bane, Xavier Tillman, Theo Maledon, and the 28 other players who were picked after Flynn. Saying that you would have preferred Pritchard is pointless, he wasn't available at 29.

I think Flynn is going to be great, a top 10 point guard in the NBA and a big time clutch performer. It's just a matter of improving his 3pt shot, once defenders stop feeling like they can sag off from him it's going to open up the mid range and near the basket. I think he can be better than Fred, and this isn't to denigrate Fred, I just see that Flynn has a level of fluidity and creativity that Fred lacks.

prelude00 · Post #38 » by **prelude00** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:59 pm

Syd-TK3 wrote:Figured we woulda grown past making crazy judgments on a player after 1 rookie season.

LOL, this is raptors rgm brother

Sent from my SM-G965W using Tapatalk

Indeed · Post #39 » by **Indeed** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:02 pm

Backcountry wrote:Just going on what I watched in SL, Flynn looks much more confident and capable this season than last. Good decision-making, good shot selection, good passing and good D. Now I realize that's only a 4-game sample and against SL players, but I think he far outstrips his performance and usage this season compared to last.

Either that or he becomes part of a trade. I'm no fortune-teller...

Wasn't most people who watched Flynn played in SL was not impressed?
Good shot selection? Good passing? Didn't we mention he only looked for his shot / stats, but didn't really make plays for others?

Post #40 » by **Reeko** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:07 pm

Indeed wrote:
Backcountry wrote:Just going on what I watched in SL, Flynn looks much more confident and capable this season than last. Good decision-making, good shot selection, good passing and good D. Now I realize that's only a 4-game sample and against SL players, but I think he far outstrips his performance and usage this season compared to last.

Either that or he becomes part of a trade. I'm no fortune-teller...

Wasn't most people who watched Flynn played in SL was not impressed?
Good shot selection? Good passing? Didn't we mention he only looked for his shot / stats, but didn't really make plays for others?

I think most of us saw that he was taking a lot of shots and not creating for others as much, but chances are he was told to do so by the coaching staff. The most important thing for him to improve coming into this season is his 3pt shot, and I think he showed that he has improved that aspect of his game.