Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4

[Tomjas]

What's your point? Drummond is THE WORST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE? Got it, now do Simmons

Simmons wins games

Drummond never has

He’s a scrub

I mean, I've seen more of Drummond being in the Pistons area than you have, stop with the hyperbole please.

I am firmly in the trade Simmons camp but let’s deal with reality

Sixers with Ben and no Joel win 43-44 games per season

Sixers with Drummond and no Joel or Ben are lucky to break 30

We’ll go .300 while Ben & Joel sit

That’s reality

[76ciology]

Version 2.0

Sixers:
Sexton
Jerami Grant
Derrick White
Thad Young
2022 Cavs pick
2022 Spurs pick
Why: Sexton replaces Tobi’s scoring, Jerami Grant replaces Ben’s defense. Thad and White makes up for the difference. Sixers also got a couple of lottery picks in 2022.

Cavs:
Ben Simmons
Why: They got Lebron 2.0 and because i said so.

Spurs:
Tobias Harris
Paul Reed
Sixers 2022 first round pick
Why: because Paul Reed is a lottery pick talent and tobias would easily be the Spurs best player

Pistons:
Kevin Love
Primo
Jaden Springer
Why: Youth movement. Love can play pick and pop with Cade. Pistons got a lottery pick talent guard in Primo to play with Cade.

[76ciology]

To the Spurs guys here.

What can you do to up your offer because if not we’re trading Ben to the Cavs. Cavs is willing to trade Sexton and a pick for him.

If not, then you guys have to settle for a 50-40-90 scorer that made the allstar team last season that MAYBE arguably better than Ben Simmons.

[76ciology]

Sixers:
Sexton
Jerami Grant
Kevin Love
Cavs 2022 pick
Kings 2022 pick

Cavs:
Ben Simmons

Kings:
Tobias Harris
Paul Reed
- got a 20ppg scorer that fits the way they want to play

Pistons:
Bagley
Jaden Springer
2022 Sixers pick
- got a promising big and guard to play with Cade

[Tomjas]

Sixers:
Sexton
Jerami Grant
Kevin Love
Cavs 2022 pick
Kings 2022 pick

Cavs:
Ben Simmons

Kings:
Tobias Harris
Paul Reed
- got a 20ppg scorer that fits the way they want to play

Pistons:
Bagley
Jaden Springer
2022 Sixers pick
- got a promising big and guard to play with Cade

Wtf do the Sixers want Sexton or Coby White?

Stat padders from terrible teams get us nowhere

Handy hint: Cleveland and Chicago don’t want to pay them & Shake is adequate trade bait for guys of that level

[76ciology]

Sixers:
Sexton
Jerami Grant
Kevin Love
Cavs 2022 pick
Kings 2022 pick

Cavs:
Ben Simmons

Kings:
Tobias Harris
Paul Reed
- got a 20ppg scorer that fits the way they want to play

Pistons:
Bagley
Jaden Springer
2022 Sixers pick
- got a promising big and guard to play with Cade

Wtf do the Sixers want Sexton or Coby White?

Stat padders from terrible teams get us nowhere

Handy hint: Cleveland and Chicago don’t want to pay them

I’ll explain it to you once we get them. For now, yeah statpadder so they better hand them over to us IMMEDIATELY.

[Tomjas]

Sixers:
Sexton
Jerami Grant
Kevin Love
Cavs 2022 pick
Kings 2022 pick

Cavs:
Ben Simmons

Kings:
Tobias Harris
Paul Reed
- got a 20ppg scorer that fits the way they want to play

Pistons:
Bagley
Jaden Springer
2022 Sixers pick
- got a promising big and guard to play with Cade

Wtf do the Sixers want Sexton or Coby White?

Stat padders from terrible teams get us nowhere

Handy hint: Cleveland and Chicago don’t want to pay them

I’ll explain it to you once we get them. For now, yeah statpadder so they better hand them over to us IMMEDIATELY.

I can just imagine Joel laughing himself to sleep at the thought of playing with Collin or Coby

Might as well pay out his rent now and book the removalists

[mdenny]

Zimpy27 came up with this nice trade idea in the transactions forum. I think it's quite an interesting one. Hope you guys won't mind me posting it here, to ask if y'all think it's a fair one and better than other rumors/suggestions? I think it is.

Yay? Nay? Maybe?

Which piece are we supposed to be excited about? That looks like a no. Some good players coming in but nothing that moves the needle.

I think the idea of a Simmons TPE should be thought about. There are several players this season that could shake loose from teams looking to cut salary for free or for some pick compensation.
Wiggins, Siakam, CJ, Hayward, Gallo
Then you have Beal, LaVine and a host of other options next offseason to sign in FA.

Is there any precedent for that? A team getting a 30+ milly TPE and it resulting in a star player before it expires? Honest question. Can't think of an example.

[zimpy27]

Which piece are we supposed to be excited about? That looks like a no. Some good players coming in but nothing that moves the needle.

I think the idea of a Simmons TPE should be thought about. There are several players this season that could shake loose from teams looking to cut salary for free or for some pick compensation.
Wiggins, Siakam, CJ, Hayward, Gallo
Then you have Beal, LaVine and a host of other options next offseason to sign in FA.

Is there any precedent for that? A team getting a 30+ milly TPE and it resulting in a star player before it expires? Honest question. Can't think of an example.

Well Boston just tried it and got Fournier.
Truth is this upcoming season has more potential. And next offseason I think LaVine would be an ideal.target and Bulls wouldnt want to lose him for nothing.

[mdenny]

I think the idea of a Simmons TPE should be thought about. There are several players this season that could shake loose from teams looking to cut salary for free or for some pick compensation.
Wiggins, Siakam, CJ, Hayward, Gallo
Then you have Beal, LaVine and a host of other options next offseason to sign in FA.

Is there any precedent for that? A team getting a 30+ milly TPE and it resulting in a star player before it expires? Honest question. Can't think of an example.

Well Boston just tried it and got Fournier.
Truth is this upcoming season has more potential. And next offseason I think LaVine would be an ideal.target and Bulls wouldnt want to lose him for nothing.

Is fournier the best example? Doesn't sound promising.

I suppose it could be a new tactic though. Every new effective strategy has to work for the first time.

It might fit the bill with these circumstances.

[mithrandir17]

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So I guess that means Ben will only play for 28 other teams now. Even his mentor is calling out his type of offseason workouts.

[Kobblehead]

Drummond brings soooo much to the table.

A level rebounder
A level switch versatility defensively
A level rim protector

He's a defensive stud. Arguably the best backup C in the sport.

[Kobblehead]

Read on Twitter

So I guess that means Ben will only play for 28 other teams now. Even his mentor is calling out his type of offseason workouts.

Yup. One of the first people to ever show up Ben Simmons on a nationally televised game was LeBron. He was guarding him from 10 feet away.

I know the Klutch dudes only care about money and Simmons has been an ace financial asset for them, but even they got to be slightly frustrated and annoyed with his lack of development. Simmons was supposed to be the face of Klutch once LeBron retired. As it stands now, they have no heir apparent for their brand. Now they gotta hope Anthony Edwards is that guy.

[Bum Adebayo]

Anyone would be frustrated and annoyed when one of the most talented players I've ever seen in Ben Simmons refuses to put in the work to improve and just plays video games and collects paychecks.

[syntax]

Anyone would be frustrated and annoyed when one of the most talented players I've ever seen in Ben Simmons refuses to put in the work to improve and just plays video games and collects paychecks.

Refuses to put in the work and comes into camp as one of the most shredded and athletic players in the NBA, year after year. OK BRO.

[jbk1234]

If true then TRADE HIM. Oh its not true? Ben is good and you want an all-star for him? Thanks for the input.

I wish Ben was on a contract that reflected his talent so we could trade him appropriately. Max guys are hard to move. Most other max guys are real allstars. So a role player on a max doesn't have a lot of trade value. Other teams aren't lining up to trade their star for a role player.

He's not a "real" all-star now? Nice mental gymnastics. Teams aren't lining up because Morey has zero leverage. Par for the course for disgruntled stars wanting out. When has a star requesting a trade netted equal value in return? Never? Why is this situation different? Morey needs his head read.

I don't think leverage is the primary issue when it comes to Ben's trade value. It's free throw shooting, followed by shooting in general, followed by the size of his contract.

The Philly F.O. apparently believes Ben can come back to the Sixers, play the same as before, and then be traded for a star as soon one becomes available. No one is really showing their math on that one though. It seem like insisting that a mortgage backed security is worth the same amount is was in 2006, in 2010.

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[Jailblazers7]

Wtf do the Sixers want Sexton or Coby White?

Stat padders from terrible teams get us nowhere

Handy hint: Cleveland and Chicago don’t want to pay them

I’ll explain it to you once we get them. For now, yeah statpadder so they better hand them over to us IMMEDIATELY.

I can just imagine Joel laughing himself to sleep at the thought of playing with Collin or Coby

Might as well pay out his rent now and book the removalists

I actually think Joel would vibe with Sexton. Sure he gets some tunnel vision but he’s a guy who has improved every season and never backs down from a big moment. Their personalities are actually pretty similar.

[Negrodamus]

Read on Twitter

So I guess that means Ben will only play for 28 other teams now. Even his mentor is calling out his type of offseason workouts.

I read this more as validating Ben. He never wants to shoot in a game because he’s never going to be a good shooter, so why work on it, amirite?

[76ciology]

I’ll explain it to you once we get them. For now, yeah statpadder so they better hand them over to us IMMEDIATELY.

I can just imagine Joel laughing himself to sleep at the thought of playing with Collin or Coby

Might as well pay out his rent now and book the removalists

I actually think Joel would vibe with Sexton. Sure he gets some tunnel vision but he’s a guy who has improved every season and never backs down from a big moment. Their personalities are actually pretty similar.

And the biggest problem of the team has always been the void Biid left on offense when he’s not on the court, which Sexton would be able to fill with the help of other guys like Maxey, Seth, Shake, Tobi, Thybulle and Drummond.

Sexton isnt delusional. He will defer to a guy like Biid. But he is skilled enough and have that killer instinct to take over games when he is asked to do so, with his teammates’ support. Not single handedly.

Yeah.. i want harden and dame. But it aint happening. Might as well take the next best thing and do your best with it.

[Kobblehead]

Still not sold on Sexton.

Not quite a bomber and not quite a chef.

If we're getting a young alpha munchkin, go get Cole Anthony.