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Post#61 » by agkagk » Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:51 pm

HeadtopChunes wrote:i think he will be decent, see a DJ Augustin-ish level career for him.

His defense is good and his ball skills are great, but w/ his limited tools he'd have to become an all-time passer &/or shooter to really be an impact player and I don't see either happening.

For the 28th pick its fine but I do wish we drafted someone with more potential


Very DJ Augustine-ish

Maybe we get lucky and his ball iq is off the charts and he turns into a Marc Jackson type.
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Post#62 » by johanliebert » Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:58 pm

Dj augustin has been around for 13 years ya’ll have to quit it.

First y’all said he’s a great playmaker last preseason, when he clearly isn’t that. He’s a score first guard that can’t even do that consistently in the NBA. He has a tight handle and good fundamentals in the pick and roll but lacks the burst to get to his spot.
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Post#63 » by johanliebert » Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:02 pm

prelude00 wrote:Too much of a deep dive for a 29th pick lol.

We need the season to start asap

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Hah OP didn’t say much, I’ve seen threads gushing over his potential for over a year now. I wouldn’t call it a deep dive he just went against the grain cause y’all love you some Flynn.
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Post#64 » by raptoradical » Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:56 pm

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dkb9696 wrote:I will come off as a jerk I imagine, but I just do not see this kid being much of anything in the NBA. I understand he is coming off his first season and could and will improve, but I would much rather have the kid in Boston who at least has shown he can play. I like that Flynn competes, but he can not hit a shot to save his life.


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Post#65 » by JShuttlesworth » Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:12 am

Call me crazy, but I don't see Flynn getting a whole lot of minutes this year. He's going to be stuck behind Fred / Dragic unless he can prove he belongs ahead of Dragic in the rotation.
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Post#66 » by Jakay » Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:07 am

I only look at stats and going by https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/flynnma01/shooting/2021 he isn't even attempting any 3s inside 23 feet. :nonono:
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Post#67 » by YogurtProducer » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:08 am

Indeed wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
Indeed wrote:
What team have you been watching to say he can make those jump shots?
Or if you don't watch the game, perhaps you can look at the stats:
https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1630201/shooting/

His majority of shots are jumpshots, and he is only making 30%.
My understanding is that he cannot fight to his place for the shot. Unlike VanVleet who has elite strength and can fight off to his spot. So how much strength can he add? Being a 4th year college player and promote as NBA ready player, there isn't much potential.

And thanks OP for bringing your opinion, which is also a concern for me.

FVV and elite strength are not two terms I ever thought I’d hear together.

Besides, Flynn as a rook greatly outplayed FVV as a rookie


I posted a video, VanVleet was capable of getting to the rim in his rookie. I don't see how you can make that cliam in Flynn is better than VanVleet in his rookie. Video evidence wise, that is not the case.

Uhhh FVV shot 42% at the rim as a rookie. Flynn just shot 60% last year, which would be by far FVV’s career high.

FVV may get the rim, but he can’t finish so who cares.

Flynn was insanely better than FVV was at the age of 22 at pretty much every aspect of basketball
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Post#68 » by YogurtProducer » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:08 am

JShuttlesworth wrote:Call me crazy, but I don't see Flynn getting a whole lot of minutes this year. He's going to be stuck behind Fred / Dragic unless he can prove he belongs ahead of Dragic in the rotation.

We will play a lot of 2PG sets
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Post#69 » by Ell Curry » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:25 am

I don't see the DJ Augustin comparison at all. Augustin is shorter, a better playmaker and worse defensively than Flynn.

Not sure who to compare him to. He's a solid all-around PG without anything that really jumps out to me. Same level as Augustin I could see, but I think he's more of a lower usage PG whose defense means he could play against starters without killing you (unlike Augustin) if he's the 4th or 5th option, but may not run a 2nd unit as well as Augustin.
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Post#70 » by Indeed » Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:01 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
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YogurtProducer wrote:FVV and elite strength are not two terms I ever thought I’d hear together.

Besides, Flynn as a rook greatly outplayed FVV as a rookie


I posted a video, VanVleet was capable of getting to the rim in his rookie. I don't see how you can make that cliam in Flynn is better than VanVleet in his rookie. Video evidence wise, that is not the case.

Uhhh FVV shot 42% at the rim as a rookie. Flynn just shot 60% last year, which would be by far FVV’s career high.

FVV may get the rim, but he can’t finish so who cares.

Flynn was insanely better than FVV was at the age of 22 at pretty much every aspect of basketball


lol, you are just looking at the stats. I couldn't find my post nor the video, but clearly people replied saying VanVleet was already a better player than Flynn on their first year after watching that highlight. Both point skill and ability to attack the rim, VanVleet was at the NBA level.
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Post#71 » by NBA Sheady » Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:53 pm

Hopefully, the added strength impacts his game. That was his biggest (no pun intended) weakness.
The good thing about BI is he can shoot over defenders.
The bad thing about BI is he can shoot over defenders.
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Post#72 » by YogurtProducer » Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:51 pm

:roll:
Indeed wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
Indeed wrote:
I posted a video, VanVleet was capable of getting to the rim in his rookie. I don't see how you can make that cliam in Flynn is better than VanVleet in his rookie. Video evidence wise, that is not the case.

Uhhh FVV shot 42% at the rim as a rookie. Flynn just shot 60% last year, which would be by far FVV’s career high.

FVV may get the rim, but he can’t finish so who cares.

Flynn was insanely better than FVV was at the age of 22 at pretty much every aspect of basketball


lol, you are just looking at the stats. I couldn't find my post nor the video, but clearly people replied saying VanVleet was already a better player than Flynn on their first year after watching that highlight. Both point skill and ability to attack the rim, VanVleet was at the NBA level.

I don’t think you remember how bad FVV was year 1.
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Post#73 » by LiSTWithLani » Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:51 pm

Ell Curry wrote:I don't see the DJ Augustin comparison at all. Augustin is shorter, a better playmaker and worse defensively than Flynn.

Not sure who to compare him to. He's a solid all-around PG without anything that really jumps out to me. Same level as Augustin I could see, but I think he's more of a lower usage PG whose defense means he could play against starters without killing you (unlike Augustin) if he's the 4th or 5th option, but may not run a 2nd unit as well as Augustin.
I see some Bobby Jackson in him, a real sparkplug off the bench that D's up and has range to the three point line. A competitor.

I can also see a smaller Derrick Fisher, who became excessively jacked in his later years. Still, a heady point guard without real faults, but also without otherworldly talents as a lead guard.

He definitely is in the mold of a Lowry/ FVV, without the heady leadership or veteran savvy.

Don't have too many better comparisons that come to me off of the top of my head.

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Post#74 » by Mikistan » Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:26 pm

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Ell Curry wrote:I don't see the DJ Augustin comparison at all. Augustin is shorter, a better playmaker and worse defensively than Flynn.

Not sure who to compare him to. He's a solid all-around PG without anything that really jumps out to me. Same level as Augustin I could see, but I think he's more of a lower usage PG whose defense means he could play against starters without killing you (unlike Augustin) if he's the 4th or 5th option, but may not run a 2nd unit as well as Augustin.
I see some Bobby Jackson in him, a real sparkplug off the bench that D's up and has range to the three point line. A competitor.

I can also see a smaller Derrick Fisher, who became excessively jacked in his later years. Still, a heady point guard without real faults, but also without otherworldly talents as a lead guard.

He definitely is in the mold of a Lowry/ FVV, without the heady leadership or veteran savvy.

Don't have too many better comparisons that come to me off of the top of my head.

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Post#75 » by treerollins » Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:24 pm

Not sure who to compare him to.


TJ Ford without the quickness.
Calderon without the shooting
FVV without the strength.
Cory Joseph without the Canadian citizenship.
Milt Palacio? Chris Childs?

He's our 3rd string pg. Can be an ok backup if we're getting star level play from the starting spot.
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Post#76 » by Basketball_Jones » Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:48 pm

Huh? Was he not shooting much better in summer league? His shot looks much quicker and ready for scoring now. I’ve been impressed with his confidence and work put in to speed up his jumper. He’ll be fine.
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Re: Malachi Flynn 

Post#77 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:31 am

Mikistan wrote:
anj wrote:
dkb9696 wrote:I will come off as a jerk I imagine, but I just do not see this kid being much of anything in the NBA. I understand he is coming off his first season and could and will improve, but I would much rather have the kid in Boston who at least has shown he can play. I like that Flynn competes, but he can not hit a shot to save his life.


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claiming that Flynn cannot shoot is a joke

what team are these guys even watching?


The Lakers. They are Raptor shaming our rookie. Flynn can really play but he can have some bad patches until his quiet confidence returns and then looks like a very poised player.
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Post#78 » by Brinbe » Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:02 pm

Flynn is a fine playmaker but that wasn't the role asked of him in summer league. I wouldn't take that as any real indicator of things.

He was asked to score/look for his shot more because that's the part of his game that needs work. And summer league is ultimately about development.
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Post#79 » by Danny1616 » Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:18 pm

treerollins wrote:
Not sure who to compare him to.


TJ Ford without the quickness.
Calderon without the shooting
FVV without the strength.
Cory Joseph without the Canadian citizenship.
Milt Palacio? Chris Childs?

He's our 3rd string pg. Can be an ok backup if we're getting star level play from the starting spot.


He's also entering his sophomore season, lol. Also remember the dude literally had College cut short due to Covid, didn't really have a summer league, went right into training camp and got no playing time until mid-way through the season.

You remember what Calderon was a rookie? Wasn't pretty. Dude was averaging 5ppg shooting 16% from 3.

That's not to say Malachi will be a very good back up point guard, but his rookie season isn't indicative of much, especially considering that he finished the season strong and won rookie of the month in March.
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Post#80 » by Psubs » Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:07 pm

Flynn is going to be the starting PG in 4 years. :D
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