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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1781 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:15 pm

KhalilS wrote:I'd send Powell + Burke + Moses Brown for him in heartbeat.


Plus a couple of second rounder...but i don't know if this package is enough.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1782 » by Mavrelous » Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:13 pm

He doesn't have much value, he's been ineffecient for 2 years now, just the money saving will entice them.

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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1783 » by Mr B » Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:32 pm

KhalilS wrote:I'd send Powell + Burke + Moses Brown for him in heartbeat.

Gordon doesn’t really move the needle much does he though?
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Post#1784 » by SOUNDCHASER » Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:35 pm

Houston will want picks and young guys.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1785 » by Mavrelous » Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:30 pm

Mr B wrote:
KhalilS wrote:I'd send Powell + Burke + Moses Brown for him in heartbeat.

Gordon doesn’t really move the needle much does he though?
Scorer off the bench, who put it on the floor and create fo himself, Mavs don't have many of those.

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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1786 » by Apz » Sat Sep 18, 2021 4:30 am

KhalilS wrote:
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KhalilS wrote:I'd send Powell + Burke + Moses Brown for him in heartbeat.

Gordon doesn’t really move the needle much does he though?
Scorer off the bench, who put it on the floor and create fo himself, Mavs don't have many of those.

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Is he tho? He kinda fallen off a cliff imo last seasons.

He shot 32.9% from 3 last season. Jrich shot 33%. Were we happy with his shooting? Oh, and he makes 38m the next 2 seasons.

Im not even sure its worth getting even if the price were powell and burke
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1787 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:14 am

Houston was in tanking mode, Gordon is an elite 3point shooter. Don't worry about that.
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Post#1788 » by arkuo » Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:19 am

Gordon would be extra baggage for 38M. THJ will take most of the minutes because Cuban paid him. Then Sterling Brown takes backup minutes for cheap. And you need enough playing time left for development for Terry or Green. There's really no space for Gordon anymore. Especially at the price the Rockets will ask for him. Likely young players and picks.
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Post#1789 » by leolozon » Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:38 am

41Dirk41 wrote:Houston was in tanking mode, Gordon is an elite 3point shooter. Don't worry about that.


He also shot badly the year before when they weren't tanking. The last time he was an elite 3pt shooter is 7 years ago. In Houston he was about average in his best years. Plus he his hurt a lot, won't get any better at 33 and has been a pretty bad defender.

We are getting desperate. When will someone bring up OJ Mayo? We are slowly heading there.

The team is already at least 10 deep, the depth is fine other than a playmaker, the problem is the 2nd and 3rd option. As long as KP either wakes up or leaves, the team is stuck anyway and I rather see them take flyers on young guys. The team getting far is highly dependant on KP. If KP becomes better, there's always time to add veteran later. If not, does anyone thinks a guy like Gordon is the difference between advancing in the playoffs or not?
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1790 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Sep 18, 2021 3:47 pm

leolozon wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:Houston was in tanking mode, Gordon is an elite 3point shooter. Don't worry about that.


He also shot badly the year before when they weren't tanking. The last time he was an elite 3pt shooter is 7 years ago. In Houston he was about average in his best years. Plus he his hurt a lot, won't get any better at 33 and has been a pretty bad defender.

We are getting desperate. When will someone bring up OJ Mayo? We are slowly heading there.

The team is already at least 10 deep, the depth is fine other than a playmaker, the problem is the 2nd and 3rd option. As long as KP either wakes up or leaves, the team is stuck anyway and I rather see them take flyers on young guys. The team getting far is highly dependant on KP. If KP becomes better, there's always time to add veteran later. If not, does anyone thinks a guy like Gordon is the difference between advancing in the playoffs or not?


We were not able to trade or sign for player who make that difference in last 2 1/2 years and you want to do this in 10days of FA? Ok...
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1791 » by leolozon » Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:09 pm

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41Dirk41 wrote:Houston was in tanking mode, Gordon is an elite 3point shooter. Don't worry about that.


He also shot badly the year before when they weren't tanking. The last time he was an elite 3pt shooter is 7 years ago. In Houston he was about average in his best years. Plus he his hurt a lot, won't get any better at 33 and has been a pretty bad defender.

We are getting desperate. When will someone bring up OJ Mayo? We are slowly heading there.

The team is already at least 10 deep, the depth is fine other than a playmaker, the problem is the 2nd and 3rd option. As long as KP either wakes up or leaves, the team is stuck anyway and I rather see them take flyers on young guys. The team getting far is highly dependant on KP. If KP becomes better, there's always time to add veteran later. If not, does anyone thinks a guy like Gordon is the difference between advancing in the playoffs or not?


We were not able to trade or sign for player who make that difference in last 2 1/2 years and you want to do this in 10days of FA? Ok...


Where did I say that?
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1792 » by Mavrelous » Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:45 pm

arkuo wrote:Gordon would be extra baggage for 38M. THJ will take most of the minutes because Cuban paid him. Then Sterling Brown takes backup minutes for cheap. And you need enough playing time left for development for Terry or Green. There's really no space for Gordon anymore. Especially at the price the Rockets will ask for him. Likely young players and picks.


The deal is Powell/Burke and maybe Moses Brown, clear a roster spot trade a guard that never plays and the 4th/5th center, for a flyer on a guy that used to be very good.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1793 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:30 pm

leolozon wrote:
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He also shot badly the year before when they weren't tanking. The last time he was an elite 3pt shooter is 7 years ago. In Houston he was about average in his best years. Plus he his hurt a lot, won't get any better at 33 and has been a pretty bad defender.

We are getting desperate. When will someone bring up OJ Mayo? We are slowly heading there.

The team is already at least 10 deep, the depth is fine other than a playmaker, the problem is the 2nd and 3rd option. As long as KP either wakes up or leaves, the team is stuck anyway and I rather see them take flyers on young guys. The team getting far is highly dependant on KP. If KP becomes better, there's always time to add veteran later. If not, does anyone thinks a guy like Gordon is the difference between advancing in the playoffs or not?


We were not able to trade or sign for player who make that difference in last 2 1/2 years and you want to do this in 10days of FA? Ok...


Where did I say that?


You don't want Gordon because he will not make the difference. Maybe it's true but add him will better than add nobod for sure.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1794 » by Apz » Sun Sep 19, 2021 10:16 am

41Dirk41 wrote:
leolozon wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
We were not able to trade or sign for player who make that difference in last 2 1/2 years and you want to do this in 10days of FA? Ok...


Where did I say that?


You don't want Gordon because he will not make the difference. Maybe it's true but add him will better than add nobod for sure.


Is it? Cause a 33yo that shoots less then 33% from 3 and still by some here is an "elite shooter" is helping how? If u want to get a shooter, i bet there is undrafted player that actually got a future in mavs that woulf be more worth taking a shot at with those 13-15 spots on the roster
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1795 » by leolozon » Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:33 pm

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41Dirk41 wrote:
leolozon wrote:
Where did I say that?


You don't want Gordon because he will not make the difference. Maybe it's true but add him will better than add nobod for sure.


Is it? Cause a 33yo that shoots less then 33% from 3 and still by some here is an "elite shooter" is helping how? If u want to get a shooter, i bet there is undrafted player that actually got a future in mavs that woulf be more worth taking a shot at with those 13-15 spots on the roster


Yeah, plus he's on the book for two years. He isn't an expiring. And again the injury history.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1796 » by Mavrelous » Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:39 pm

Apz wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
leolozon wrote:
Where did I say that?


You don't want Gordon because he will not make the difference. Maybe it's true but add him will better than add nobod for sure.


Is it? Cause a 33yo that shoots less then 33% from 3 and still by some here is an "elite shooter" is helping how? If u want to get a shooter, i bet there is undrafted player that actually got a future in mavs that woulf be more worth taking a shot at with those 13-15 spots on the roster


How many shooters do you need? All of the Mavs rotation players except Powell and WCS are shooters, you need someone to take ball handling duties and attack from the weak side, Mavs don't have anyone like that.
If EG is coming at the expense of an important player or cap flexibility, then yeah, don't do it, but is Powell/Burke worth no taking a flyer?
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1797 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:26 pm

You don't want Dragic...you don't want Markaneen...you don't want Gordon...you don't want DDR...ok we love our guys in blue but let's not complain when Luka will be alone against the world in the PO.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1798 » by Apz » Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:07 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:You don't want Dragic...you don't want Markaneen...you don't want Gordon...you don't want DDR...ok we love our guys in blue but let's not complain when Luka will be alone against the world in the PO.


Oh I want dragic, but not for 20m and have to pay for him. If markannen had been possivle to get into the tpe fine. But not overpaying or getting **** because "we probably doesnt do Nyghing anyway" just to do stuff.

Our fo isnt stupid. You dont get jobs like that if u are stupid. On the other hand, the cavs guy giving love that contract should be flipping burgers at mcdonalds so who knows?
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1799 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:55 am

Sorry but we don't are Lakers/Nets/Clips, we have to pay money or assets for add players, it's time to understand that.
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Re: Trade Discussion 21/22 

Post#1800 » by ecuhus1981 » Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:25 am

Hey guys, I have concocted another trade proposal! Please share your feedback, thanks in advance:

https://fanspo.com/nba/s/general/trades/0B05A0puRIyXHH/rockets-explode-w-mavericks-clippers

DAL trades Powell/Stein/Burke for Gordon/Ibaka/House
Dallas absorbs salary to nab a 3-level scoring guard, a feisty 3&D wing and a stretch big.
Doncic, Gordon, Hardaway, Smith, Porzingis
Brunson, Bullock, House, Kleber, Ibaka


HOU trades Wall/Gordon/House for Morris/Kennard/Powell
Houston trims $27mil in current cap while returning 2 useful rotation players.
Porter, Green, Morris, Theis, Wood
Kennard, Nwaba, Tate, Garuba, Sengün


LAC trades Morris/Kennard/Ibaka for Wall/Stein/Burke
Los Angeles takes on 2-year salary to shed longterm payroll, while adding an elite distributor and deep bench vets.
Wall, Mann, George, Batum, Zubac
Bledsoe, Jackson, Johnson, Winslow, Stein
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