Trade Discussion 22/23

[Maverick41]

Hey guys, I have concocted another trade proposal! Please share your feedback, thanks in advance:

https://fanspo.com/nba/s/general/trades/0B05A0puRIyXHH/rockets-explode-w-mavericks-clippers

DAL trades Powell/Stein/Burke for Gordon/Ibaka/House
Dallas absorbs salary to nab a 3-level scoring guard, a feisty 3&D wing and a stretch big.
Doncic, Gordon, Hardaway, Smith, Porzingis
Brunson, Bullock, House, Kleber, Ibaka


HOU trades Wall/Gordon/House for Morris/Kennard/Powell
Houston trims $27mil in current cap while returning 2 useful rotation players.
Porter, Green, Morris, Theis, Wood
Kennard, Nwaba, Tate, Garuba, Sengün


LAC trades Morris/Kennard/Ibaka for Wall/Stein/Burke
Los Angeles takes on 2-year salary to shed longterm payroll, while adding an elite distributor and deep bench vets.
Wall, Mann, George, Batum, Zubac
Bledsoe, Jackson, Johnson, Winslow, Stein

I like this for the Mavs. Mavs get a talent upgrade, improve offensively, improve defensively AND gain toughness. Gordon's contract sucks but it can actually be good trade bait the following year for matching purposes.

Also I know we're not really allowed to Like Morris as Mavs fans but I honestly think he would be a REALLY good fit at the 4 for us if he could somehow be swung here in any Clips/John Wall trade.

[Apz]

Would have prefered to get morris(....) or kennard in that trade. Consider EG completly washed

[leolozon]

You don't want Gordon because he will not make the difference. Maybe it's true but add him will better than add nobod for sure.

Is it? Cause a 33yo that shoots less then 33% from 3 and still by some here is an "elite shooter" is helping how? If u want to get a shooter, i bet there is undrafted player that actually got a future in mavs that woulf be more worth taking a shot at with those 13-15 spots on the roster

How many shooters do you need? All of the Mavs rotation players except Powell and WCS are shooters, you need someone to take ball handling duties and attack from the weak side, Mavs don't have anyone like that.
If EG is coming at the expense of an important player or cap flexibility, then yeah, don't do it, but is Powell/Burke worth no taking a flyer?

Why would the Rockets want Powell/Burke?

And why would you give up draft capital if you don't think the guy is going to help you that much? Why not keep it for a better opportunity closer to when KP's contract comes off the book?

Is Gordon really helping you?
Will Gordon be healthy? The guy gets injured every year. He averages 53 games/year in 13 years.
What do you do next year with him?

I rather be patient and see if KP is better and if the team has a chance to get further this year or not.

[Mavrelous]

Is it? Cause a 33yo that shoots less then 33% from 3 and still by some here is an "elite shooter" is helping how? If u want to get a shooter, i bet there is undrafted player that actually got a future in mavs that woulf be more worth taking a shot at with those 13-15 spots on the roster

How many shooters do you need? All of the Mavs rotation players except Powell and WCS are shooters, you need someone to take ball handling duties and attack from the weak side, Mavs don't have anyone like that.
If EG is coming at the expense of an important player or cap flexibility, then yeah, don't do it, but is Powell/Burke worth no taking a flyer?

Why would the Rockets want Powell/Burke?

And why would you give up draft capital if you don't think the guy is going to help you that much? Why not keep it for a better opportunity closer to when KP's contract comes off the book?

Is Gordon really helping you?
Will Gordon be healthy? The guy gets injured every year. He averages 53 games/year in 13 years.
What do you do next year with him?

I rather be patient and see if KP is better and if the team has a chance to get further this year or not.

It's a gamble, on a player that was very good and was in a bad situation.
The reason HOU will do it is
1. save money (4mil each year)
2. replace a guy who doesn't want to be there with 2 rotation guys.

Mavs also need to clear a roster spot and have 5 centers.

[LAL1947]

Wish there were some way for the Mavs to get a PF like Jonathan Isaac. Or someone else with those qualities.

Luka, THJ, DFS, Isaac, Porzingis
Dragic, Brown, Bullock, Kleber, one of WCS/Boban.

Anyone not named can be used in a package along with picks to get him.

[SOUNDCHASER]

Somebody else besides Houston may blow things up this year. I say we let the season start and see how things go with those other potential problem teams. Philly is going to be crap with all the negative fall out from Ben not reporting to camp and with MIL and BRK playing there in the East they may have more than one guy wanting out of Philly sooner or later.

[Darren]

KP, Powell, Brunson, FRP for Wall, Wood

C - Wood / Brown / WCS / Boban
PF - Doncic / Kleber
SF - DFS / Bullock / Green
SG - Hardaway / Brown
PG - Wall / Burke / Ntilikina / Terry

[41Dirk41]

KP, Powell, Brunson, FRP for Wall, Wood

C - Wood / Brown / WCS / Boban
PF - Doncic / Kleber
SF - DFS / Bullock / Green
SG - Hardaway / Brown
PG - Wall / Burke / Ntilikina / Terry

Good trade if Nico want to be fired.

[Apz]

KP, Powell, Brunson, FRP for Wall, Wood

C - Wood / Brown / WCS / Boban
PF - Doncic / Kleber
SF - DFS / Bullock / Green
SG - Hardaway / Brown
PG - Wall / Burke / Ntilikina / Terry

Thats so bad for us

[Mavrelous]

JJ Reddick announces retirement on his channel on YT

[Darren]

KP, Powell, Brunson, FRP for Wall, Wood

C - Wood / Brown / WCS / Boban
PF - Doncic / Kleber
SF - DFS / Bullock / Green
SG - Hardaway / Brown
PG - Wall / Burke / Ntilikina / Terry

Thats so bad for us

Maybe, you're right. I am not a firm believer in KP until proven otherwise. The intangible, passion and discipline are sorely missing. How comes a random non-NBA center Toby outplayed KP totally as a Slovenian teammate. Actually, I think Toby outplayed all Mavs centers as a Luka teammate. Something must be wrong.

[Mr B]

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[SOUNDCHASER]

Boban is probably the greatest center to ever play for the MAVs on a per minute basis.

[41Dirk41]

Boban is a MEME, no more.

[DJ_3_Ball]

The way I look at this, the Mavs still have Luka. He nearly single-handedly defeated the Clippers last year. Did that with KP being M.I.A. and THJ being Hot than Cold every other game of that series.

I'm not a big believer in the Lakers being top dogs in the West. Don't care that they added Westbrick. LeBron and AD still won't stay healthy, if you're setting odds on that. I don't see anyone else in the West who is a prohibitive favorite.

The Mavs have virtually nothing to offer to make a trade happen. They gotta pray that KP plays better than he did in the Clippers series, which shouldn't be too hard because he can't play much worse (you wouldn't think), and find a player better THJ to be Luka's 2nd star.

I think the Mavs do have enough to find a player better than THJ. A better, more consistent scorer at least.

Also, if ya'll haven't seen MavsNation's clip of Mavs practice on Instagram. I know it's just highlights from a scrimmage, but my God does Moses Brown look like a problem. Contesting every shot around the rim and finishing with authority on putbacks and cuts to the basket. It looks like the Mavs might have a rim protector besides just KP (when he feels like it).

Even a healthy Dragic could be enough. Somebody like Malik Beasley would definitely fit this description.

[DJ_3_Ball]

Would Jalen Brunson, Josh Green, and 2 future 1st round picks (top 5 protected) + Dwight Powell for salary matching reasons get us in the ballpark for Buddy Hield? I think it might be, heavy emphasis on might be, something the Kings would consider. Likely, only if they don't get a better offer before the trade deadline.

[Apz]

Would Jalen Brunson, Josh Green, and 2 future 1st round picks (top 5 protected) + Dwight Powell for salary matching reasons get us in the ballpark for Buddy Hield? I think it might be, heavy emphasis on might be, something the Kings would consider. Likely, only if they don't get a better offer before the trade deadline.

What? Hield is one of the worst contracts in the league and have no real intrest in adding him. And thats the biggest overpay ive seen on any forum, its like selling luka for a 2nd wrong. Powell+boban+burke and no picks is more in hields value, and im not even 100% sure I would do that. Your valuation of hield is way off. If we had an expiring that could match kings would take that right away. But no franchise thinks he is worth even that

[Maverick41]

Would Jalen Brunson, Josh Green, and 2 future 1st round picks (top 5 protected) + Dwight Powell for salary matching reasons get us in the ballpark for Buddy Hield? I think it might be, heavy emphasis on might be, something the Kings would consider. Likely, only if they don't get a better offer before the trade deadline.

I would be shocked if the Kings would say no to 2 FRPs, Josh, Brunson AND getting off of Buddy's enormous contract. I like Buddy but we have a similar player in THJ (not saying he's better). I would rather have someone that can create for himself and others instead with that kind of package.

If we were to be trade partners with the Kings I'd be more interested in bringing back Barnes or buying low on Bagley if possible.

[LAL1947]

Would Jalen Brunson, Josh Green, and 2 future 1st round picks (top 5 protected) + Dwight Powell for salary matching reasons get us in the ballpark for Buddy Hield? I think it might be, heavy emphasis on might be, something the Kings would consider. Likely, only if they don't get a better offer before the trade deadline.

I think SAC would grab that offer. I don't think Hield is what this team is missing though. Would much rather offer this sort of package to Orlando in an attempt for Jonathan Isaac.

[41Dirk41]

Would Jalen Brunson, Josh Green, and 2 future 1st round picks (top 5 protected) + Dwight Powell for salary matching reasons get us in the ballpark for Buddy Hield? I think it might be, heavy emphasis on might be, something the Kings would consider. Likely, only if they don't get a better offer before the trade deadline.

I like adding Hield (he is a very sharpshooter) but that package is too much... without the FRP could be good. No more.
I don't care about the contract, we are stuck. No more cap space for next 2/3 years.
Cuban have to pay luxury.

OMG Nets paied a SRP for unload Sekou... Where is our FO? Wake up.