Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4

[NW]

Neubeck has an insider on the 76ers as a source now. It gives us a glimpse into what the 76ers braintrust is thinking about.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/ben-simmons-latest-rumors-trade-damian-lillard-daryl-morey-eastern-conference-doc-rivers-news-update/

"There are a few deals you could say, we do this, and we'll gamble that sometime later, we'll take draft picks and turn it back into having [a title] chance," a team source told PhillyVoice. "But why do that?...there's no reason to go get draft picks right now because you could just do it all at once. Why take the risk that you do that and you can't flip back out of it? It makes no sense with Joel in his prime."

They're right. And I'm feeling pretty confident that they are going to settle on Bradley Beal. Lillard isn't going to leave and they are set up to be a 4/5 seed. The Wizards are going to suck and I'd bet that Embiid has Beal's ear in the event of that happening.

I will be very pleasantly surprised if we can get Beal.

Not for over a year. Beal’s going nowhere until he gets that 5-year Supermax from the Wiz imo

[Mik317]

I swear this happens every week now lol.

Sixers are willing to wait.

Rich Pa-err Ben says the sixers are meanie poopy heads

Someone here has a meltdown

Repeat next week.

Morey overplayed his hand. Ben and his camp are hoes. We all suck. But just get this **** over with already lol

[76ciology]

Well atleast for now we now know that the trade should be sooner than later.

But i dont agree with boxing ourselves on a “win now” player type deal.

[FireMorey]

When I read that Yaron Weitzman piece about Simmons and all the crazy stuff that was in there. How he didn't respond well to criticism. How he didn't train with the guy the Sixers wanted him to train with and would only work with his guy. That piece made Simmons look pretty bad.

And when Morey comes into the organization and learns about all this(if he didn't already know before being hired) his first thought should have been "I have a radioactive player on my roster whose value could go through the floor at any moment, I need to get rid of this guy immediately while he still has value." I mean, c'mon.

Ben Simmons is the top person to blame here. The guy is overrated, he's soft, he's a loser, and all that. But when you bring in a guy with Morey's pedigree, it's his job to foresee all this stuff. The Ben Simmons situation is far and away the most important and biggest thing he inherited coming to Philadelphia, and fast forward and the situation is an utter disaster. It should have never gotten to this point.

You have an egomaniac player who has yet to admit he needs to improve and is so narcissistic he'd burn all bridges around him to stay in his own denial.

And you have stubborn GM who thought he was the smartest guy in the room, and he could put out arrogant little tweets about how amazing Ben Simmons is trying to front like he'd be perfectly fine keeping him, thinking he'll be able to get what he wants for him.

And the end result is one of the ugliest situations in recent Philly sports memory.

[ensergiog]

Brogdon and Justin Holiday. Just take it.

[Negrodamus]

Brogdon and Justin Holiday. Just take it.

Lol, nah.

[76ciology]

Jerami Grant and future unprotected pick.

Win-Win.

Ben loves cars = Detroit

Sixers got a defensive wing to play Ben’s role and an unprotected pick for us to get a star.

[ensergiog]

Brogdon and Justin Holiday. Just take it.

Lol, nah.

He isn't getting traded for pennies on the dollar, he just isn't worth the dollar anymore. That's what been the issue this whole time.

Simmons high value was of his LBJ/Magic potential, it's why he got the max, that's been exposed. He isn't worth a superstar.

[Negrodamus]

Brogdon and Justin Holiday. Just take it.

Lol, nah.

He isn't getting traded for pennies on the dollar, he just isn't worth the dollar anymore. That's what been the issue this whole time.

Simmons high value was of his LBJ/Magic potential, it's why he got the max, that's been exposed. He isn't worth a superstar.

I guess we'll just hold onto him then.

[the_process]

Brogdon and Justin Holiday. Just take it.

Lol, nah.

He isn't getting traded for pennies on the dollar, he just isn't worth the dollar anymore. That's what been the issue this whole time.

Simmons high value was of his LBJ/Magic potential, it's why he got the max, that's been exposed. He isn't worth a superstar.

Even so, you have to do a hell of a lot better than Brogdon and Holiday.

[Samson]

The #1 article on ESPN right now is that he won't ever come back and refuses to play another game for the 76ers.

My vote is, "We'll see about that!!!" ... 4 years worth of not playing, not getting paid, and irrelevance is a long time.

You make your bed, you gotta lie in it. LeBron has really screwed this guy. LeBron was able to use Free Agency and creative contracts throughout his career (Ridiculously high salaries but constant opt-outs that teams would only give to people like him...) ... This guy sat out his entire rookie year with an injury ... Less than 3 years after entering the league, (demands and) signs a 5 year Supermax contract. Less than 2 years after that - and only 1 year into the contract- he's refusing to play for the team and demanding a trade.

I am pretty sure I posted several times *back then* that there were rumors on websites that LeBron specifically advised him to demand a Supermax contract, every last penny, sign it ASAP, and then "a year or two later, demand a trade". Pretty much what AD did... Oh look...

My vote is , Have fun looking like a beehatch and not getting paid. After a few games, nobody's going to even remember you. "Oh yeah, remember we had that guy that time that did that thing? That was ... like... a long time ago..."

[the_process]

Rich Paul and Ben are in a tough situation. He's going to get fined for not showing up and the Sixers are in no hurry to trade him. I'm really starting to believe we'll see a PR redemption tour in the next week.

The galaxy brain move would be to announce Embiid still needs time to let his knee recover and let Ben run the show for the first 10 games to boost his value again.

The real galaxy brain move would be to have Embiid get some sort of elective surgery, and then just let Simmons fake an injury so he doesn't have to show up. Play a heavy dose of the kids and let Tobias pump up huge stats. Tank and cash out high on Tobias. Then find an acceptable deal for Ben by the draft next summer.

[Mik317]

they aren't going to let Ben just sit all year or even that long into the season.

The ownership hates that kind of bad press...and yes sadly it would be bad press. Klutch has ESPN in their back pocket and you saw the stink they made about the Process to the point of getting Jerry and friends involved,.

I bet Harris is the one who steps in and begs Morey to just make it go away lol.

I hate it here

[Eyeamok]

Notice how nothing is directly attributed to Simmons or Rich Paul. Plausible deniability.
Ben after he has been fined a good deal of his salary turns up and says "I was never quoted as saying I would never play for the team again!" Rich Paul: "I don't know where these rumors come from. Ben has never said never."

[FireMorey]

They already messed it up enough, they need to trade him. His value is not going to go up. They're so stubborn and refuse to take the L because they know it would be a bad look going from "We almost had Harden for Ben!" to "We had to settle for Colin Sexton..."

There is no chance in hell his value is going to increase during the season with him this mad at the organization and fans booing him during games.

Bite the bullet, cut your losses. Trade him to the Cavs for Sexton, Portland for CJ, or Kings/Wolves for a boatload of picks and just be done with it.

[Stanford]

Simmons high value was of his LBJ/Magic potential, it's why he got the max, that's been exposed. He isn't worth a superstar.

Thanks for your input!

[the_process]

they aren't going to let Ben just sit all year or even that long into the season.

The ownership hates that kind of bad press...and yes sadly it would be bad press. Klutch has ESPN in their back pocket and you saw the stink they made about the Process to the point of getting Jerry and friends involved,.

I bet Harris is the one who steps in and begs Morey to just make it go away lol.

I hate it here

Nah. They hired Morey for this. He doesn't take the job without a measure of autonomy to make these decisions. And beyond that, there has to have already been at least one meeting on the subject. So if they are sticking to their guns there is some sort of consensus amongst management and ownership.

Also Harris keeps mass firing people so clearly bad press doesn't move him that much.

[GutUNC]

Brogdon and Justin Holiday. Just take it.

Lol, nah.

He isn't getting traded for pennies on the dollar, he just isn't worth the dollar anymore. That's what been the issue this whole time.

Simmons high value was of his LBJ/Magic potential, it's why he got the max, that's been exposed. He isn't worth a superstar.

Still think he's worth more then the quarter you proposed.

[76ers76ers]

Keep Ben. Screw the media and klutch. Already, Klutch is going to advise their clients to not sign here, so what's the difference if they keep Ben.

[BigSleep333]

emotionally im at the point "let him rot". even though i know that would be stupid...

im just sick of this arrogant, ignorant, cod-playing, bricking free throws as a professional basketball player, lacking self-awareness lil primadonna