Political Roundtable Part XXX

[closg00]

https://acasignups.net/21/09/12/simple-actuarial-analysis

Here's some more math about net number of GOP voters who will die because of COVID negligence. GOP apparently views this is a net win because tanking the economy by sabotaging COVID recovery will hurt Biden more than it hurts them.

This has been impacting GOP voters in deep-red states largely, so they don't give AF. Also, GOP voters are motivated more by white grievance issues than economic issues I would wager.

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[dobrojim]

The perverse thing about GOP Covid denial is that for them votes lost due to infection related deaths are statistically insignificant.

They can put their base at risk without any fear of being held to account at the voting booths.

Sure, that may work in a solid red state like Mississippi but it could hurt them on the margins in states with growing base that isn’t the traditional Republicans. I.e Georgia.

Even though the actual number of C19 deaths is probably not enough to impact most election margins
if you only look at numbers of deceased, I would assume that in many cases, the death of a loved
one or close colleague/friend/etc would have a multiplier effect. That might add up to a bit more.

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[Zonkerbl]

The perverse thing about GOP Covid denial is that for them votes lost due to infection related deaths are statistically insignificant.

They can put their base at risk without any fear of being held to account at the voting booths.

Sure, that may work in a solid red state like Mississippi but it could hurt them on the margins in states with growing base that isn’t the traditional Republicans. I.e Georgia.

Even though the actual number of C19 deaths is probably not enough to impact most election margins
if you only look at numbers of deceased, I would assume that in many cases, the death of a loved
one or close colleague/friend/etc would have a multiplier effect. That might add up to a bit more.

it's comforting anyway to see that the numbers are not enough to really influence elections and even if they were they would be hurting GOP more than Dems. I just don't understand why the Republicans have embraced evil so gleefully.

[dobrojim]

On a number of important issues, the GOP is not acting in what historically would
be considered patriotic manner. They're against democratic elections, they're against
us paying our debts, they are against investing in infrastructure that would
improve our country, they against protecting citizens against a disease that
has already killed hundreds of thousands, and they seem to have no use for
roughly half the country that doesn't look or vote like they do.

The only traditional American value they enthusiastically support is white supremacy,
which for many, is not even a tradition they acknowledge.

[Zonkerbl]

McConnell has decided that the only way Republicans can win is if they sabotage the economy - cause as many of their own followers to commit suicide to force another lockdown and sabotage the economy that way, or force the US govt to renege on its debt and cause a worldwide financial crisis. I just wonder why they think no one will blame them for economic terrorism. Of course their own followers will believe it but not everyone is a fox news brainwashee.

Remember when the GOP was the party of billionaires and you could reasonably expect them not to take policy stances that would cause huge economic damage to their main political donors?

[dobrojim]

Speaks my mind perfectly

https://www.thebulwark.com/why-im-a-single-issue-voter/?fbclid=IwAR0PTrILTVCeCKH1ntSDkZqoaQWuKeTjfHKUcmwjvk_6b0Wrdgngv-HLb60

[Zonkerbl]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2021/09/22/impeachment-clinton-lewinsky-scandal/

If you watch The Morning Show (highly recommend it) you can see that everyone is still wrestling with the idea of consensual sex that occurs between a male with hiring/firing power and a lower level employee. Yes, it's consensual. Yes, it's still a corrupt abuse of power. Bribery is also "consensual." If you are a man in this position and a woman literally throws herself at you, you had absolutely nothing to do with it, you can choose to say no, because it's improper - both of you know your hr decisions will be influenced by it. If someone offers you a bribe and you take it, you are in the wrong. Yes, bribes are tempting. But you are still a bad person for accepting it. You are still *breaking the law.* There are women in politics who did the same thing and were held accountable. Why don't men feel they should be held to the same standard?

[Zonkerbl]

I've been slowly boiling ever since George Floyd, I guess, about how infuriating it is that courts have ruled that police have no duty to protect. It's the police's job to nab bad guys so they can be put on trial, that's it. They're not responsible for *preventing* crime in any way.

I've just now realized, like an idiot, that this absolutely makes sense. The only way cops can prevent crime is by violating constitutional rights. So of course they are not required to do this. If you want to prevent crime, have a specially trained domestic violence task force, have a specially trained mental health intervention squad, have a drug abuse intervention squad, have education and jobs programs for youth at risk.

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[Zonkerbl]

There's been a lot of discourse about Gabby Petito's murder and how the cops had the couple *in their hands* a few weeks before she died.

1) Why didn't the cops do something? Because if they did something EVERY SINGLE TIME they encounter a situation like that, they would be violating the constitutional rights of a HUGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
a. Why was there not a specially trained domestic violence unit the cops could've referred the couple to?

2) Why is it ok for Brian Laundrie to not talk to the cops? BECAUSE DON'T TALK TO THE COPS. EVER. The only thing you should ever say to the cops is "Am I under arrest? If no, am I free to go? If I am, I want a lawyer." You can't talk your way out of being arrested, but you sure as hell can talk your way into it. If you've committed a heinous crime, you absolutely should not talk to the cops. It's the cops' jobs to prove you are guilty, not yours.
a. Isn't this why our criminal justice system cannot handle sexual assault? YES.

[Pointgod]

This would be a huge idiotic self inflicted harm by the Democrats if the reconciliation bill doesn’t go through. I’m with the Progressives on this. They negotiated in good faith **** like Manchin got what they wanted, now Manchin is willing to tank both bills. If he’s worried about the price tag then cut some **** from the bi partisan bill. This is absolutely idiotic

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[Zonkerbl]

Will I get dinged by the mods of I post the STFU Friday youtube video that very helpfully, but profanely, explains what to do when pulled over by the cops?

When the cops pull you over what do you say? "Why did you pull me over?"
When they start asking questions what do you say? "I'm not discussing my day."
If they keep asking questions? Politely ask "Am I being detained or am I free to go?"
If detained, what do you say? "I invoke the fifth"
AND THEN WHAT DO YOU DO? YOU STFU!!!!

I think this is a relatively tame version:

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[verbal8]

I am glad to hear they aren't messing around.

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[Zonkerbl]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/09/25/epik-hack-fallout/

"Many website owners who trusted Epik to keep their identities hidden were exposed, but some who took additional precautions, such as paying in bitcoin and using fake names, remain anonymous."

Hm, found another use for bitcoin besides paying for hookers and blow without your wife finding out - it's also good for hiding your identity (like a coward!) when you spread hate online.

[Zonkerbl]

my twitter feed is slowly being blockchained out of existence, as liberals in faction 1 block everyone who follows liberals in faction 2. Soon it'll just be a bunch of zoo tweets and poetry bots and video game news.

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Having a bad legal take does not make you a grifter or a bad person. Can't we all just get along?

[Ruzious]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/with-a-straight-face-to-an-adoring-crowd-trump-lies-and-says-arizona-audit-found-he-won/vi-AAOS8Iu?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531
Obviously, nothing's ever going to change with him, but the bold-faced pure lies starting at the 58 second mark... Again, what's more disturbing? - the lies trying to de-legitimize our elections - or the fact that there is an enormous cult of personality still following this horrible piece of garbage?

[Zonkerbl]

This isn't surprising. Turns out Kavanaugh doesn't take bribes to make right wing decisions - he's just an extremist right winger. A fanatically dedicated one.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/09/heres-the-truth-about-brett-kavanaughs-finances/